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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
230
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Posted - 2012.08.28 20:36:00 -
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Saw this last night, and guess I shouldn't be surprised.
I pursued a wartarget from plex to plex last night, attempting to tackle and kill him. I forced him out of plex after plex, tackled him repeatedly (Turns out the merlin was fitted with 2 stabs). I deplexed 9 plexes. with him continually warping in to try and complete the plexes.
This went on for hours in the same system. WT is question never said a word, more than once he warped into a plex right after I did (He landed on the gate as I warped). I finally grabbed a second scram and once again, he followed me into the plex, this time I killed him and podded him..he made no attempt to warp after dying. His behavior was strange to say the least, with plenty of systems around to plex, he seemed determined to continue plexing in this system, even though he had not collected an Lp on hours and knowing that I was going to catch him sooner or later. I did report it to CCP for further review, but it seems that the bots have realized what a easy farming system CCP has setup.
One character, left alone in a system with minimal interference could easily generate 5 bil + a day, is this what CCP had in mind with the FW update?
"CCP, is a cutting edge developer, they have found a way to sell lag to their customers, and make them believe it's a feature." |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1971
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Posted - 2012.08.28 20:38:00 -
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Yes Gÿ+/ /Gûî /n++ \ -áThis is Bob, post him into your forum sig and help him conquer the forums. |

Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
343
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Posted - 2012.08.28 20:40:00 -
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i love these 5B/day estimates ... bots will do anything that they can automate. For every bot, there are probably another 3000 afk guys doing the same thing though. There are many other posts in many other forums if you just wish to complain about the mechanics though.
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
292
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Posted - 2012.08.28 20:43:00 -
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At least Incursions are impossible to bot. Have seen some incredible 7-8 boxers though they are rare & when we had the numbers to compete for sites they were forced out of it due to being beaten repeatedly. =========================================================
EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% Nullsec residents. EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about... |

Jim Era
Genco Fatal Ascension
1409
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Posted - 2012.08.28 20:44:00 -
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stop chasing my bot around. its really interfering. |

veritas primus
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.08.28 20:46:00 -
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Years ago when I lived in 0.0 I would run across the Raven belt rat bots.....those still around?
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Sugar Kyle
The humbleless Crew Capital Punishment.
93
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Posted - 2012.08.28 21:30:00 -
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Jim Era wrote:stop chasing my bot around. its really interfering.
Yup. Tilde soaked words from something kinda like a pirate. |

Garreth Vlox
Blackened Skies The Unthinkables
100
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Posted - 2012.08.28 22:06:00 -
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veritas primus wrote:Years ago when I lived in 0.0 I would run across the Raven belt rat bots.....those still around?
now they run anoms but its all the same bullshit, tho you'll see more drakes then ravens in most places. The LULZ Boat. |

Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2012.08.28 22:21:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote: is this what CCP had in mind with the FW update? GÇ£If someone joins FW, and just wants to run missions, is that actually a bad thing? Do we have to force people to PvP?GÇ¥ - CCP Soundwave
Sooo... yeah.
In fact, you are probably better off not mentioning that you are forcing fw mission runners into pvp 
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Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
88
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Posted - 2012.08.28 23:11:00 -
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Good luck getting CCP to accept ANY evidence of botting. I stopped bothering a couple years ago. |

Ensign X
127
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Posted - 2012.08.28 23:39:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Good luck getting CCP to accept ANY evidence of botting.
I'd be interested to hear what kind of "evidence" you had. If your "evidence" is anything like the "evidence" that recent GD forum posters claim they've presented to CCP, it's more than likely just suspicion and ignorance. |

Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.08.28 23:49:00 -
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He was having fun making you chase him all over the system.
He wanted you to pod him, too. Quickest way to get back to his home station and climb in another frig.
And not responding in local no doubt generated liters of delicious tears. |

Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management Unified Church of the Unobligated
675
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Posted - 2012.08.29 00:46:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote: is this what CCP had in mind with the FW update? GÇ£If someone joins FW, and just wants to run missions, is that actually a bad thing? Do we have to force people to PvP?GÇ¥ - CCP Soundwave Sooo... yeah. In fact, you are probably better off not mentioning that you are forcing fw mission runners into pvp 
So really FW isn't what a lot of people hoped it would be when it was introduced, it's just another farming mechanism. Oh well. That figures. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |

Sergeant Nuisance
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.08.29 08:34:00 -
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my main lives in nullsec. we had a 9 man bot corp next door to us that were blues.
I petitioned them. no way they should be able to get away with it. blue or not.
aint seen them login for nearly 5 days now. tiem will tell if they been wanred in the past lol. |

Mallak Azaria
591
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Posted - 2012.08.29 08:44:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:At least Incursions are impossible to bot.
And that is literally the only good thing about highsec incursions. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Azami Nevinyrall
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
367
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Posted - 2012.08.29 10:02:00 -
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FW = Farmville 2.0
It's horrible and usually done with alts, and no FW bittervet will ever admit to doing it. But, 95% of them do it.
I'm willing to bet the "bot" in question was a few weeks old with no implants... Do you know what a sh*t-barometer is? It measures the sh*t-pressure in the air, did you hear that? The sounds of the whispering winds of sh*t... |

Mikaila Penshar
Take it Deep
7
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Posted - 2012.09.19 04:48:00 -
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FW bots are AWESOME for my killboard! Yeah, it goes on and on until they run outta ship- hilarious!
...but on a serious note Faction Warfare has altered the game, and I don't like it. Does anyone have a good guess on when CCP's gonna nerf it? |

Cede Forster
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
89
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Posted - 2012.09.19 05:06:00 -
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ah excrement, just heard that FW is horribly broke
"HOT HOT HOT Prices - all FW items now on SALE - come in, buy your NAVY ISSUE for a fraction of the price. These prices are so hot, they are INFERNAL and with your new BLING SHIP you are literally ON FIRE. I will escalate the price war further and say for every item you buy you get ONE FOR FREE. That is right, it is TWO for ONE!" ***
little we knew that CCP was referring to a price war when they announced the last patch
edit: you can not say that word? oh that is just ... great edit2: there you go, fixed it. i can say excrement right ? |

Fatbottom Girl
State War Academy Caldari State
50
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Posted - 2012.09.19 05:14:00 -
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So Beekeeper Bob is in FW and killed a merlin last night with 2 stabs. We'll be watching you Bob. |

Creedling
Black Omega Industrial
2
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Posted - 2012.09.19 05:30:00 -
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Quote:One character, left alone in a system with minimal interference could easily generate 5 bil + a day
Nope. |

lanyaie
527
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Posted - 2012.09.19 06:27:00 -
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So beside the fact that you killed a merlin what else do you have to inform us of that we didn't know? Hay |

Coco Shimayaya
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.09.19 08:43:00 -
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so what plex you can do with a 2xstabbed merlin? |

Terrorfrodo
Deep Space Darwinian Law Enforcement Agency
175
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Posted - 2012.09.19 09:05:00 -
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CCP need to become quicker in fixing new or 'iterated' features that turn out to be broken. New FW seemed great shortly after patch and I think many people enjoyed it. Problem is, after a short while the puppetmasters in larger corps and alliances figured out how to exploit the system and then it quickly degenerated into pure ISK farming.
A corp I am member of captured a system for our faction. In militia channel we were warned not to do it because we were *harming* our faction by reducing their farmland. We did it anyway because capturing enemy systems seemed like what you should do in factional warfare, and also it was fun to fend off the interfering enemy militia. Result was, two large corporations of our own militia wardecced us immediately. To punish us for fighting the enemy 
So you cannot even use the system as it was intended, even if you do not care about farming yourself, because the powerful people are all just ISK farmers at heart. . |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1499
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Posted - 2012.09.19 11:55:00 -
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Terrorfrodo wrote:CCP need to become quicker in fixing new or 'iterated' features that turn out to be broken. New FW seemed great shortly after patch and I think many people enjoyed it. Problem is, after a short while the puppetmasters in larger corps and alliances figured out how to exploit the system and then it quickly degenerated into pure ISK farming. A corp I am member of captured a system for our faction. In militia channel we were warned not to do it because we were *harming* our faction by reducing their farmland. We did it anyway because capturing enemy systems seemed like what you should do in factional warfare, and also it was fun to fend off the interfering enemy militia. Result was, two large corporations of our own militia wardecced us immediately. To punish us for fighting the enemy  So you cannot even use the system as it was intended, even if you do not care about farming yourself, because the powerful people are all just ISK farmers at heart. Yeah, it's a great time to farm LP down there. Lots of people "playing" FW: Mission Accomplished. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Corwain
Tea And Sympathy Ltd. Liability Reckless Ambition
5
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Posted - 2012.09.19 12:50:00 -
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The irony is strong with this one. Tell me thread, what have you done to my good friend? You know, yet still you DO NOT BELIEVE!
/Derpdib
Seriously though, who here is suprised by any of this? I really liked the beekeeper reference by the way. Reminds me of this. |

Endrysk
Take it Deep
2
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Posted - 2012.09.20 02:39:00 -
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I have been killing a number of bots around my area lately. Kill them repeatedly until they run out of ships. Report them nightly as well. CCP ignores. Exact same person is back the next day. Same situation as OP. |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
597
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Posted - 2012.09.20 04:14:00 -
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Coco Shimayaya wrote:so what plex you can do with a 2xstabbed merlin?
Turns out his first point was really a web. |

ACE McFACE
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
820
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Posted - 2012.09.20 05:36:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:FW = Farmville 2.0
It's horrible and usually done with alts, and no FW bittervet will ever admit to doing it. But, 95% of them do it.
I'm willing to bet the "bot" in question was a few weeks old with no implants... I click the plex and get money or strawberries or whatever? "7 pages of people insulting me - aka trolling" - Lady Hofstedar What s/he (probobly he) meant: "7 pages of people disagreeing with my terrible idea - aka trolling" - Lady Hofstedar |

Lord Zim
1513
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Posted - 2012.09.20 07:59:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Yeah, it's a great time to farm LP down there. Lots of people "playing" FW: Mission Accomplished. No, no, Jade said that Minmatar was just better than Amarr, it is inconceivable that people can be even contemplating joining the "other side" just to farm billions of isk worth of LP each day. Inconceivable! How dare you! They're professional RPers who are certainly not greedy!
I mean, look at the gallente vs caldari war, they're equal as well!
http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/VeriteFW/FWinfluence.png
...oh, wait a minute. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilotn++ won't be jumping home. |

King Rothgar
Black Watch Guard Gl0rious Bastards
305
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Posted - 2012.09.20 10:05:00 -
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FW is full of farmers these days. It used to be just a handful of people with each militia that would go out and slug it out every few days for a laugh. We all knew each other and I even switched sides a couple times to "even the teams." But this just isn't the case any more. It's next to impossible to get any sort of decent fight, all the pvp these days seems to be plex farmer vs who ever's bored enough to bother trying to catch them.
The average plex farmer fits no guns, has 2-3 stabs and won't warp to a plex if any potential threats are on scan. Finding ways to catch them is proving mildly entertaining I suppose. Normal pvp fits just don't work since these aren't normal setups I'm chasing around. In any case it's seriously broken.
To answer the question of what plexes you can run with an unarmed stabbed t1 frigate, the answer is all of them if you are minmatar or caldari and none if amarr or gallente. This is do to a massive imbalance in the npc capabilities. The Troll is trolling. |
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