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FireBug JR
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Posted - 2011.03.27 00:50:00 -
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I run 2 clients at a time (alt-tabbing from one to the other) and play other games
Just wondering if i should upgrade the graphics card to be able to play modern games (coming out within the next year or so) and run eve better
also wondering if its actually easy to or not...cause i have no experience in it
here's my specs:
intel core i7 930 @ 2.8ghz
9GB ram
ati radeon 5770
windows 7
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Ticarus Hellbrandt
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Posted - 2011.03.27 00:59:00 -
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that graphics card should be fine for a while longer ( i hope so too :P)
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.03.27 01:01:00 -
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At first sight and with the limited data you gave us, you're ok with what you have.
Thanks to consoles being the driving force behind game sales, most games coming out nowadays need to run smoothly on a console too, so unless you ramp up the resolution or dial up the antialiasing, what you have now should be adequate for quite a while (until PS4 and/or whatever's after XBOX360 comes out) as long as you stick with "mainstream" games.
Also, EVE was never very demanding (compared to other games), so you should be fine there too (at least for a year, if not two).
At most, buy a second identical video card and link'em in crossfire mode.
But you'd have to check if the motherboard supports it, and you might have to upgrade the power source.
Want more details ?
Give us the exact specs of what you have, and tell us what games you have in mind, including desired graphics details and FPS.
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Joran Dravius
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.03.27 02:53:00 -
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Edited by: Joran Dravius on 27/03/2011 02:55:22
 Originally by: FireBug JR
I run 2 clients at a time (alt-tabbing from one to the other) and play other games
Just wondering if i should upgrade the graphics card to be able to play modern games (coming out within the next year or so) and run eve better
also wondering if its actually easy to or not...cause i have no experience in it
here's my specs:
intel core i7 930 @ 2.8ghz
9GB ram
ati radeon 5770
windows 7
The answer to whether you should upgrade as always yes, always. As far as actually installing the new card it's very easy. All you need to do is uninstall the old drivers in add and remove programs. Then turn off your computer, open it up and plug in the new card. Close the case back up and turn the computer on. Then you just need to install the new drivers. The whole process should take only about 5-10 minutes. I'm in the process of building a new computer, but until it's finished I'm still using XP. Someone please correct me if it's different in Windows 7.
Edit: You'll need to reboot after installing the new drivers. I forgot to mention that.
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OneT
Wicked Weasels
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Posted - 2011.03.27 04:02:00 -
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that grafics card is definatly the week part in your setup but by no means is it rubbish i think you would be better servered by a second monitor so you can run one instance of eve on each (im assuming this isnt what your doing because you said alt + Tabing).
also yes all you have to do is pull the old vid card and remove those drivers install new one + drivers and your away
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Xavier Isaacson
Minmatar
Surface Detail
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Posted - 2011.03.27 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Joran Dravius
Edited by: Joran Dravius on 27/03/2011 02:55:22
Originally by: FireBug JR
I run 2 clients at a time (alt-tabbing from one to the other) and play other games
Just wondering if i should upgrade the graphics card to be able to play modern games (coming out within the next year or so) and run eve better
also wondering if its actually easy to or not...cause i have no experience in it
here's my specs:
intel core i7 930 @ 2.8ghz
9GB ram
ati radeon 5770
windows 7
The answer to whether you should upgrade as always yes, always. As far as actually installing the new card it's very easy. All you need to do is uninstall the old drivers in add and remove programs. Then turn off your computer, open it up and plug in the new card. Close the case back up and turn the computer on. Then you just need to install the new drivers. The whole process should take only about 5-10 minutes. I'm in the process of building a new computer, but until it's finished I'm still using XP. Someone please correct me if it's different in Windows 7.
Edit: You'll need to reboot after installing the new drivers. I forgot to mention that.
Unless he is cross-firing, you shoulda mentioned taking the old card out first, since you're beings so thorough 
Originally by: Verone
BBC Trust are a sack of arses.
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Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.03.27 07:38:00 -
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in fact you will have to _downgrade_ to nvidia for clothing effects
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mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
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Posted - 2011.03.27 07:42:00 -
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Computer parts are like LEGO blocks, it's easy.
That said, you don't need to upgrade, that's a fine mid range card. Wait for the 28nm GPUs before upgrading (next gen GPUs will be dropping to a much smaller production method 40nm->28nm, which means huge performance boost next gen).
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Hannibal Ord
Minmatar
Hannibals Commando's
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Posted - 2011.03.27 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin
in fact you will have to _downgrade_ to nvidia for clothing effects
This. I'm suspicious of Nvidia's motives to possibly lock out ATI cards with certain features. I don't mind Nvidia, I do think their cards are all fine and good, but I do have an ATI card and I will be annoyed if they mess it up for ATI users. Especially since ATI cards generally are priced competitively at the mid range level.
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Reonetii
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.03.27 08:56:00 -
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Yes
You should upgrade to a nvidia, so you can enable PhysX (code with which eve was written)
one feature that an ati card does not render as well.
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Reonetii
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.03.27 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: Hannibal Ord
Originally by: Rasz Lin
in fact you will have to _downgrade_ to nvidia for clothing effects
This. I'm suspicious of Nvidia's motives to possibly lock out ATI cards with certain features. I don't mind Nvidia, I do think their cards are all fine and good, but I do have an ATI card and I will be annoyed if they mess it up for ATI users. Especially since ATI cards generally are priced competitively at the mid range level.
They won't lock out ati, just reduced features, they have a commercial arrangement with nvidia, which is normal game developement methods, they can't lock ati users out, that would be financially disasterous for ccp. So ati will always work, just not as well, until ccp decide that the commercial arrangement with nvidia no longer serves their interests and they swap sides to ati, then they nerf someone like me with a ati card.
Because I like eve and chose it as my main entertainment entity (instead of hiring movies etc) and was informed that they specifically develop with nvidia, I bought nvidia cards, now if I gamed across a whole spectrum of games and not mainly just eve, I possibly would consider all options and ati might have filled the slot better.
At least with nvidia cards atm you get to render physx graphics enhancements in sli mode, something you cannot do with ati.
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.03.27 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Reonetii
Yes
You should upgrade to a nvidia, so you can enable PhysX (code with which eve was written)
one feature that an ati card does not render as well.
Is PhysX in the current build?
That would explain why hair and clothing doesn't really *amaze* me on any of my ATI cards in my machines. 
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m3rb3aSt
Minmatar
Tovarsky Pharmaceuticals
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.27 09:32:00 -
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That video card is fine unless you are running like four clients.
I can run three clients easily on my old ass dual core athlon with 4gb of ran and an 8800gt. this game doesn't require much, especially at low graphics settings.
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Hayaishi
Gallente
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2011.03.27 09:35:00 -
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With the supposed "discount" on Nvidia cards for EVE players happening soon, I would say go for it :) It'l give you PhysX etc in time for Encarna.
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Reonetii
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.03.27 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Patient 2428190
Is PhysX in the current build?
Yes
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.03.27 09:59:00 -
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HD5770 is overkill for 2 clients in Eve right now - I'd leave it unless you're having issues with other games.
When you do upgrade, remember that the HD5770 is probably maxing out at 110W (power use) - that's one of the reasons I got one for a Shuttle box, runs cooler as it takes less power. Whatever you get as an upgrade WILL use more power - probably at least 50% more power, so if you have stability problems after the upgrade then the PSU is probably struggling.
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Flynn Fetladral
Caldari
BlackSite Prophecy
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Posted - 2011.03.27 10:04:00 -
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I just want to see the server side raytracing they talked about in CCP Presents!!!! frapfrapfrap!
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Aeronwen Carys
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Posted - 2011.03.27 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Reonetii
Originally by: Patient 2428190
Is PhysX in the current build?
Yes
Only for Incarna though sadly :( Would be nice to see if they could make use of it for our spaceships too. Maybe decently mapped collisions, or explosions.
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Drykor
Minmatar
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2011.03.27 11:28:00 -
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It's fine. Once you can't run modern games anymore, upgrade by then instead of buying a card now that will be outdated by then.
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Tiliam
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.27 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: FireBug JR
I run 2 clients at a time (alt-tabbing from one to the other) and play other games
Just wondering if i should upgrade the graphics card to be able to play modern games (coming out within the next year or so) and run eve better
also wondering if its actually easy to or not...cause i have no experience in it
here's my specs:
intel core i7 930 @ 2.8ghz
9GB ram
ati radeon 5770
windows 7
That card is fine and will last a good while. The most powerful card on offer from Nvidia/EVGA is the gtx460SE and that's only between 8 and 10% faster in real-terms, so you'd be blowing a lot of money on very little gain. All the other cards on offer are in fact slower than the 5770. (source for 460SE speed http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gainward/GeForce_GTX_460_SE/27.html). You've got a pretty well balanced setup there - to gain more speed when alt-tabbing eve clients then your CPU will be the thing which needs a little overclock - if your motherboard supports it you can hit 3.2-3.4ghz but you'd have to do some research on how to do it safely. To be fair though there's no real need as everything in that setup is nice and fast and won't be a problem for a couple of years.
To those saying things will be slower on ATi cards it won't be slower - the cloth will just be less blowy and the hair won't move with 1000s of different vectors, it will just be 100s of vectors on the CPU (ie not worth it as you won't notice unless you're looking for it).
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ExcalibursTemplar
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Posted - 2011.03.27 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: FireBug JR
I run 2 clients at a time (alt-tabbing from one to the other) and play other games
Just wondering if i should upgrade the graphics card to be able to play modern games (coming out within the next year or so) and run eve better
also wondering if its actually easy to or not...cause i have no experience in it
here's my specs:
intel core i7 930 @ 2.8ghz
9GB ram
ati radeon 5770
windows 7
Upgrading your grahpics card can be very easy depening on how good your power supply unit is. If you've got a good psu you can swap the card around in minutes (as described above). If not then you have to do some planning and swap out the psu as well. Swapping the psu isnt a big job just make sure you get one with enough connections on it (dont **** about with splitter cabels unless for extra fans) and one that fits the type of case you have (ATX, BTX, ect) and aim for around 700w.
As for cards themselves Nvidia is better **** all the fanboy arguments Nvidia do better cards downside is though they're generally more expensive than ATI. So if you don't have a budget and want to spend daft money go Nvidia. If you have do have a budget though things get complicated as at times price for price you'll get a far better card from ATI than you would from Nvidia.
For a nice little tool to check things out on your pc try Everest just install that and have a fiddle with it and it will tell you exactly whats inside your machine.
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Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.03.27 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Patient 2428190
Is PhysX in the current build?
noticed how dog slow and crappy char editor is? Thats the only place APEX is implemented right now
Originally by: Flynn Fetladral
I just want to see the server side raytracing they talked about in CCP Presents!!!! frapfrapfrap!
You realize they were talking about thumbnails and maybe texture maps? you make avatar, server calculates one picture and thats it.
Originally by: Aeronwen Carys
Only for Incarna though sadly :( Would be nice to see if they could make use of it for our spaceships too. Maybe decently mapped collisions, or explosions.
you mean like Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter and UT3? SLOWER with Physx enabled
Tiliam wanna bet? NVIDIA "marketing money" (read bribes) comes with strings, it will be slower/crappy looking/mission options on ATI like in any other game touched by NVIDIA.
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Menzisu Uiru
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Posted - 2011.03.27 12:26:00 -
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Edited by: Menzisu Uiru on 27/03/2011 12:26:17
I'm building a new computer and I was all ready to buy the radeon 6950. Now after this I'm all worried about physx, especially after going to the Physx homepage and seeing a video featuring hair and clothing created by CCP for Eve.
Maybe I should just get the gtx 460?
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Hentes Zsemle
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Posted - 2011.03.27 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: Hentes Zsemle on 27/03/2011 12:44:19
You should wait for a game to upgrade your pc for, its pointless to just buy a better video card, especially for eve right now. What you have there now is not even a year old mid-range card. If you really want to spend your money on pc for eve or another game, at least wait till said game comes out, and save some money/buy better card for the same money.
5750 owner
Menzisu Uiru: nvidia vs ati is a matter of religion, but the gtx460 is a great card, and its pretty cheap now.
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Flynn Fetladral
Caldari
BlackSite Prophecy
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Posted - 2011.03.27 14:17:00 -
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Quote:
Originally by: Flynn Fetladral
I just want to see the server side raytracing they talked about in CCP Presents!!!! frapfrapfrap!
You realize they were talking about thumbnails and maybe texture maps? you make avatar, server calculates one picture and thats it.
Yeah, no I realised that's what they were talking about, real time raytracing on the client... keep on dreaming 
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Lonesome Joe
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Posted - 2011.03.27 15:16:00 -
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Im still running a single core P4. Wouldn't mind hardware manufacturers pushing software producers so much if I could bloody afford a new computer every two years. Anyone have $2000 they can spare?
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Burnharder
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Posted - 2011.03.27 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lonesome Joe
Im still running a single core P4. Wouldn't mind hardware manufacturers pushing software producers so much if I could bloody afford a new computer every two years. Anyone have $2000 they can spare?
Eh, you can build a very good system indeed with six hundred of your English pounds (what's that... 1000 usd?). Indeed, you could actually build one for five hundred if you went dual instead of quad core and downgraded the graphics card to "average". As others have said there's not much point in going full-on l33tspeak hardcore with a PC rig these days. Most games are developed for consoles. I had this experience with Crysis 2 recently - designed for console, optimised for console. Looks nice, but the advanced options for PC are missing . You could run it ok on a 5 year old rig.
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Mr Funkadelic
x13
Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.03.27 15:23:00 -
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Bought the 6970 not long ago, and its pretty sweet, running those o2o fleet fights with 1000 on grid with high settings and full bracket and still get around 15 fps.
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