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Queen Koecoe
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Posted - 2011.03.29 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Queen Koecoe on 29/03/2011 21:43:40
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Natural Phen0mena
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Posted - 2011.03.30 02:21:00 -
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All hail the Queen!!!
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Katie Tanaka
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Posted - 2011.03.30 03:48:00 -
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You know when you're trolling in a technical support forum it's time to go back on the meds. 
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News Group
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Posted - 2011.03.30 04:03:00 -
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Queen has been spamming every topic claiming that "clearing your catche" is the answer to all our problems. If only Queen had been spamming this answer for the last year and half all our problems would have been solved. Why didn't we think of clearing our catches. Where were our brains? I feel like such a fool. The answer has been right before me the whole time all it took was the brilliant Queen to make everything clear. I think it's time for CCP to close down the mac forum. everything has been answered. It was right before our eyes the whole time! All it took was the Queen to share her brilliance!
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Natural Phen0mena
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Posted - 2011.03.30 04:34:00 -
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Me thinks she spelled her name wrong. It should be Queen Cuckoo.
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Varia Henn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.03.30 05:42:00 -
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So what the OP means is in fact that the root cause of the CTD problem is "corrupt cache"?
Marvellous, so the actual game client that also uses said cached information is thus completely fault free and any hard application crash is natural behaviour then?
A crash is never ever a natural behaviour of a program, if it happens it is because something exceptionally happened that wasnt intended or planned for. In some cases corrupt cache IS an issue, yes. In other cases faulty hardware is the issue. In yet more cases a rare race condition inside the game code is the issue. In other cases a patch in secondary application layers (read cider, opengl, direct x, darwin, windows kernel, whatever applies) might bring expose things that affects an application due to design choices made, not necessarily bad choices I might add. My point being that bugs can originate in vastly different components so returning to your point of "clearing the cache makes it all right" is just outright arrogant.
For the record, clearing the cache upon an error is the first thing most people do, including me. When it doesnt help, you either go here or file a petition, providing CCP with the crash logs.
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Roic Derking
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Posted - 2011.03.30 06:46:00 -
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Edited by: Roic Derking on 30/03/2011 06:49:25
Very true. I had lots of crashes until I deinstalled Alfred from memory. Now who's to blame? Folks should also try windowed mode, seems some keyboards create less problems in that mode.
RD
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Katie Tanaka
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Posted - 2011.03.30 06:59:00 -
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You reckon my network connection is the cause of my crashing problems:
Really?
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Merasa Tro
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Posted - 2011.03.30 08:55:00 -
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Edited by: Merasa Tro on 30/03/2011 08:55:49
 Originally by: Queen KoecoeOne
last thing I read that got to me.. CCP more then likely didn't even realize that we can do things like this, but we can have more then one game running and you can move it over to another screen or partition on a Mac. All you have to do is duplicate the game file, open one up and hit command return, hit esc and select a smaller rez that fits what you want it to, then open the other one and do the same thing. You can even put it on another monitor if you want to. (Considering thats how I've been playing two accounts since October.
Interesting that the 'in depth' suggestion to clear the cache will fix everyhting. But fails to notice that the suggestion on how to use 2 clients at once is infact the UNSUPPORTED method. Duplicating the app and running both at once will use the same cache folder, and preferences. Exactly NOT what you want.
Please see the documentation on how to run multiple clients correctly!
sigh
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Hagis McBree
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.03.30 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: Hagis McBree on 30/03/2011 18:24:29
Originally by: Katie Tanaka
You reckon my network connection is the cause of my crashing problems:
Really?
what firewall are you using on this connection?
Speed Test mean NOTHING when it comes to the this game. you are testing to a node close to you.. try and do a speed test to lets say London.
Also it's not the game cache you need to clean/clear out it is the system cache.
Originally by: CCP Fallout
If you've not yet done so, please file a bug report.
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Entombment
VexX.
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Posted - 2011.03.30 19:03:00 -
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Queen you've lost your mind. troll a forum I don't frequent please
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Chris Sphinx
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Posted - 2011.03.31 06:50:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Koecoe
Another common myth that I have been reading in this area is that by using bootcamp and putting windows 7 on your mac the game play is better. I've played on both platforms and they are the same.
I'm sorry, but I just couldn't let this go. If you had done any research at all into the differences between platforms you will have found, as I have, that CCP has coded their game for a proprietary API (DirectX) which is not supported on the Macintosh platform because it is owned and maintained by Microsoft. Macs use OpenGL to make graphic calls and this is why a translation layer such as Cider is needed to convey these graphic calls from DirectX to the OpenGL equivalent. This is why Windows users are reporting something in the range of +100 fps while Mac users are struggling to maintain even ~60 fps on equivalent hardware. Not to mention why a large percentage of Mac users utilize boot camp to run the native client or even tooling around in the Unix underbody with an installation of Wine, which some players have reported has better performance then the Cider-wrapped client.
A lot of us are not playing the blame game as we just restart the client when we reach a CTD.
Maybe instead of spamming your supposed solution around this forum you could instead divulge your system information and what "catches" you cleaned to remove the CTDs so many people are experiencing? |
Katie Tanaka
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Posted - 2011.03.31 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Hagis McBree
what firewall are you using on this connection?
Speed Test mean NOTHING when it comes to the this game. you are testing to a node close to you.. try and do a speed test to lets say London.
Oh, so it's "some other part of the internet" between me and the CCP servers that's causing my Mac (and only my Mac when booted into OS X, not Windows 7 via Boot Camp) to crash while playing EVE? Uh-huh.
I submitted my bug report. CCP assigned it to a defect. A defect is a nice way of saying a bug. CCP says it's a bug. Please quit trying to convince yourself otherwise.
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Charles Stormwind
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Posted - 2011.04.01 07:00:00 -
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The Eve client for mac is a super buggy. that's all i have to say.
I've been playing WoW on mac for 2 years and i have never crashed once.
I've been playing eve online for less than a month and i crashed probably 10 times.
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Flynn Fetladral
Caldari
BlackSite Prophecy
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Posted - 2011.04.01 10:14:00 -
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You certainly can't blame CCP for every little crash and disconnect you have. There are a lot of system specific issues which can effect client stability. There is however no doubt that Cider is not perfect, and that there are issues with the Mac Client. Transgaming needs to get the crash reporter working! I find the biggest issues is lack of communication, Transgaming did a blog months ago, however said blog contained very little that we did not already know, and there has been non since, and half the time no one knows what the state of play is with the progress made on improvements. For the communication we do get from some developers here on the forums, my thanks goes to you for that.
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Katie Tanaka
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Posted - 2011.04.01 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Flynn Fetladral
You certainly can't blame CCP for every little crash and disconnect you have.
Sure - but the Mac client is -- by far -- the crashingmost piece of software I use on a regular basis, and that's including other games.
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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2011.04.01 15:51:00 -
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There is something Ive noticed in general about the eve client. When a new build comes out stability (for me) is poor for a few days, then gets better (although never becomes good).
But for some posters here it stays poor. Whats the difference? Maybe its because I DO NOT clear the cashe. Its like the game is building up info, and that helps it not crash.
So all people who get regular CTD, do you clear the cashe each time? What happens if you do not for a week?
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Charles Stormwind
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Posted - 2011.04.02 07:58:00 -
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Edited by: Charles Stormwind on 02/04/2011 07:58:47
since WHEN do we gamers need to perform system maintenance such as "clearing the cache" before firing up a game?
this is outright bad programming.
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Madelaine Krieger
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Posted - 2011.04.02 13:42:00 -
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Internet Connection? I do use all-holy-cable here... I got pings to make you cry, Queen Koecoe.
The real funny thing is, that i use 2 installs wich basically never crashed before the last patch. Of course I experienced a crash once in a while, but nothing on a regularly base. Computer programs do crash. The more complex they are, the more often they crash. But nowadays its just the question, WHEN i will have a CTD. And this definatly is an issue. And hence I havent changed much of my behaviour in using this software, I simply blame code. Oh, and as i have been a windows user for years, I still have the habbit to reboot my computer before I enjoy a longer session of eVe. What to my limited understanding of computer sience flashes every possible cache.
Another thing quite obvious: A big amount of people do experience the same issue at the time (time not ment in hours and minutes) and do reproduce it quite regularly. And as this people are mac users, we're all using more or less the same system. Maybe we use like 25 different system configurations, but compared to windows we're really close by at our hardware.
So dear queen, I do appreciate your concern and want to thank you for your time looking into this but I'd rather have someone here who actually knows what he/her is talking about. That is on the one hand people who report the problem, as detailed as possible maybe, and on the other hand people who did solve and know how to solve. Rough guesses about internet connection issues and big scale user stupidity don't count as such.
Next time you hit the wrong button and are going to post a unused topic, just hit the back button in your browser. Thank you.
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Disclaimer: No offence ment, but this is a sensible topic as those CTD's are seriously annoing and ruining my gaming experience. And I simply can't take any more smart-guys beeing all-wise and having no clue whatsoever.
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Flynn Fetladral
Caldari
BlackSite Prophecy
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Posted - 2011.04.02 19:03:00 -
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I had two CTD this morning, I have to say, I've had very little problems with the client since Incursion 1.0 up until the last patch. I even made a petition with a bug report due to CTD's and game lockups. I cleared both EVE cache and system cache folders since then and no help.
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Archa7ias
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Posted - 2011.04.05 00:06:00 -
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+1 troll.
I have performed a clean install, cleared the preferences, cleared the cache, used the repair tool. I have cleared my system cache, I have the latest patch on 10.6.7, further I have a fiber optic cable to my home which I have rebooted as well.
I still have freezes, not crash to desktop, but freezes where I need to hard reboot by turning off power to my computer.
My alliance has multiple war decs and I have a sense of urgency in seeing this resolved--not that I enjoy playing with my overview settings and window locations as flashy reds close in.
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