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Stalking Mantis
Caldari
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.03.30 21:41:00 -
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Time for I-RED to meet the real Caldari soldiers
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Stalking Mantis
Caldari
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.03.30 22:53:00 -
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So this is about Johns inability to determine the age and sex of a horse?
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Stalking Mantis
Caldari
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.03.31 02:50:00 -
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3 hours into the war WBR has incurred zero losses and dealt out about 1.2 billion isk in damage.
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Stalking Mantis
Caldari
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.03.31 09:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Silas Vitalia
An unfortunate turn of events for our Caldari friends on both sides of this conflict. We would encourage both sides to seek mediation or a neutral arbitrator. What can occasionally be solved by a few words not said in anger, need not cost thousands of lives and billions of ISk among fellow State supporters.
That being said I-RED has been a long term supporter over many years and we maintain positive standings and cooperation. Any neutral vessels engaging IRED assets while near any of our territory will be removed.
Greetings Silas,
The Khanid People have always had a soft spot in my heart if for nothing else aside from their struggle for independence from the greater Amarr Empire which in turn reminds me of the Gallante/Caldari struggle.
While internal Caldari Corporation conflict is nothing new what saddens me in this regard is the sheer amount of misguided action being taken by our counterparts over at I-RED. Despite the facts being stated before in this thread (with time stamped killmails I might add) the I-RED Directorate are insistent on calling the Wolfbrigade a Pirate Faction.
The problem here is unresearched assumptions made by an entity that is totally unfamiliar with the day to day politics and happenings of the Caldari Gallente War and the warzone known as Blackrise/Placid.
Aside from the daily conflict with the Gallente we are dealing with the lowest of low forms of Pirates and Criminals in the low security systems and some times they deal with 'high security standing' individuals to resupply them with the weapons they need to keep up their illegal actions against civilians and corporations alike. It is not like we can ask them to play fair, thus our need to lower our standards in warfare to meet them in the mud and stomp them is the prevailing actions that might be misconstrued by affecting some of our pilots security status to negative sides. This unfortunately is a necessary evil and a sacrifice made by our pilots with the greater interest of the State and spreading their influence over not only over Gallente but outlaw controlled low security systems.
Back to our I-RED counterparts. They come into the middle of a warzone/ shoot a few pilots fighting for the State protectorate and act shocked that these soldiers retaliate. Then they claim loyalty to the State by not only declaring war on the most successful and fierce Caldari fighting force but by aligning a truce with the Gallente of all people. Admiral Tovil Toba would be proud.
ôThe Enemy of our Enemy is our friendö? you ask? Doubtful as this goes to show a more sinister interest in my humble opinion.
If they know who we are and continue their aggression then one must take a step back and contemplate the real benefactor of a war guided at the largest and most organized entity currently fighting for the State. If they do not know who we are then it is what I set to point out before, nothing other than unresearched and uninformed actions made by an individual that is not in touch with the day to day realities of actually fighting for the state.
To fight for the state, it is not only a slogan one puts into his corporation description, Loyalty to the state, it is not something said. It is something that shows in your actions and not words, actions such as fleeting and fighting the enemies of the state, both illegal entities and foreign threats, internal and external.
While I see much talk of loyalty to the State from I-RED I see actions that are contradictory to that.
In the meantime I hear the Gallente Raid sirens blaring outside the docking bays of the station so I must end this transmission to fleet up and actually fight for the state with my ships and pilots not with my mouth forum posts and corporate descriptions.
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Stalking Mantis
Caldari
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.03.31 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lyn Farel
This is confusing. Who is pirating ?
Ask John
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Stalking Mantis
Caldari
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.04.02 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: Neo Gabriel
I would like to inform all that whom it may concern that SLAPD and the rest of the Gallente Militia (and allies) based out of Heydieles is considering establishing a no-fly zone in black rise to prevent piratical tendencies against civilian entities to continue. This aggression against the Intaki supporting I-RED alliance will not be allowed to continue.
Today in a brilliantly executed operation led by one of our best admirals we managed to completely route an entire BS fleet of Wolfbrigade pirates being assisted by RAGE alliance pirates.
They were attempting to bait an engagement with nullsec support but were out done by our brilliant strategics.
This is a total sum of the destroyed enemy ships for no losses during the operation save a frigate hull.
Oinasiken engagement
Heydieles engagement
Make no mistake. Our amassed forces will be a sight to behold!
Coming Soon.
Who are you kidding? No Fly Zone? We Fly everyday in Heyd and 80% of your pilots dare not go more than 2500 meters from the station undock without at least 4 to 1 numerical advantage. We are not hard to find, Flying in your No fly Zone as I write this. Just look in Heyd Local Chat.
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Stalking Mantis
Caldari
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.04.02 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Blake Rathen
Your Statement
This mentality is the cancer eating away at the Caldari. It is the typical Profiteering school of thought that liberal Caldari corporations do business with whoever and whatever. You would not have a corporation or any influence what so ever or a caldari state for that matter if it was not for the brave sacrifices made to save the people of caldari prime and secure a space for the Caldari people to live and trade. We are the soldiers of the Caldari, we provide you with the protection against the Gallente that want nothing more than to return you into their fold under their rule. I strongly suggest you do more reserch on the history of the Caldari and its corporations.
Now that being said we have no issue of you making isk by negotiating any trade terms you want with whomever you want. My only note is you do not agree to trade negotiations with the same people fighting the Caldari soldiers in Intaki and claim to be 'Caldari Loyalist'. Nor do you attack Caldari soldiers (and get dispatched very fast doing it) and claim to be Caldari soldiers. Your leader has no moral ground to stand on to throw out names like 'pirate' to best suit his propaganda.
Let there be no mistake, the only loyalty you have is to isk, so I strongly suggest you change your corporation description and propaganda techniques as youÆre not fooling anyone with that 'Caldari Loyalist' talk. In my book to be a caldari loyalist is to fight for the state, not by talk, but by actually undocking ships and shooting enemies of the state. The day you do that is the day you can even start to discuss being a 'Caldari Loyalist'. Until that day you are nothing but a profiteering corporation operation under the blanket of protection and sovereignty provided by the likes of us, the REAL Caldari Loyalist putting their lives on the line day in and day out fighting for the State, with actions not words.
As for making isk with non Caldari entities, go ahead do so as you please with whomever you please. The only thing that has changed since the beginning of this war is the fact that by declaring war against the people that fight for the state you have thrown away your corporations rights and ability to operate within the State. Rest assured we will ensure that you have all the the ability to wrap yourselves in the bosom of your trading partners so long as you are in their space. But Caldari space is off limits to you and believe me when I say you have not yet seen any Wolfsbrigade military action against you, for on the list of people the Wolfsbrigade is currently fighting I assure you your corporation and its members are somewhere on the bottom. When we do strike you will know, until then enjoy your new found homes in gallente space.
To borrow a term from someone else in this forum Caldari Space is a I-RED no fly zone.
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Stalking Mantis
Caldari
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.04.02 13:47:00 -
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Do I see a Minmatar and an Amarr trying to tell us what and how Caldari should be?
I would love to invite you two to a Tea Ceremony
/me Smiles
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Stalking Mantis
Caldari
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.04.03 14:49:00 -
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If it may please our brothers from Amarr and Khanid I would like to take a second to remind our I-RED couterparts of a short tale. A tale any true Caldari should know. Taken from the ö16 autumn stories to share with our childrenö,
To any misguided Caldari please read the below:
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Hand, Hilt and Blade
Some time agoà soon after the Dragon came and we had to leave Home behindà Blade, Hilt and Hand gathered in the Airkio woods, for they wanted to return.
First spoke Blade: ôI want my home back. I am swift. I am strong. I will fight.ö
Then spoke Hilt: ôYou are strong. But you are blind. You cut friend and foe. I will be your guide.ö
Last spoke Hand: ôYou are powerful. But you are tools. I will be the master you will serve. Home belongs to Flesh and Blood.ö
ThatÆs why we master Isk. For Isk has no friend and no foe, only many slaves and a few masters.
ThatÆs why we serve a Corporation. As long as the Corporation works towards Home, and as long as it guide Isk, and are not its slave.
And thatÆs why, always remember: Last comes Isk. Before comes Corp. Before Corp comes Blood.
And Home comes first.
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Home. What we Fight for.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Hand%2C_Hilt_and_Blade
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Stalking Mantis
Caldari
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.04.04 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Marrano Cardosa
Edited by: Marrano Cardosa on 03/04/2011 15:52:36
Is Wolfsbrigade in the habit of thinking that wars are a handful of engagements? Let me assure you that the war has barely begun and these initial skirmishes will have little impact on the final outcome.
Originally by: Dan Pyre
Edited by: Dan Pyre on 04/04/2011 05:29:35
Alright so who dropped the ball on this one?
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9300761
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The war between Strange Mining Inc. and Wolfsbrigade is coming to an end. Strange Mining Inc. has retracted the war against Wolfsbrigade. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
Originally by: Stalking Mantis
Originally by: Blake Rathen
Your Statement
.....and believe me when I say you have not yet seen any Wolfsbrigade military action against you, for on the list of people the Wolfsbrigade is currently fighting I assure you your corporation and its members are somewhere on the bottom. When we do strike you will know, until then enjoy your new found homes in gallente space.
To borrow a term from someone else in this forum Caldari Space is a I-RED no fly zone.
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Stalking Mantis
Caldari
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.04.04 23:18:00 -
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Edited by: Stalking Mantis on 04/04/2011 23:21:31
Originally by: Blake Rathen
Your Statement
After reviewing post 22 of this thread I would like to clarify the following:
1-In our warzone we recognize only three kinds of pilots. A-Gallente War Targets B-Pirates (Red Outlaws also known as æpiesÆ by lowsec lingo) C-Neutrals. Without going into what degree each of these three is treated (various shades of grey) I believe for the sake of this I will only refer to those three.
2-As far as I know we never had any standings with IRED prior to this so any æblue standingÆ you may have had with pilots fighting for the state would be a result of you diplomats setting automatic blue standing for the Caldari State. i.e. anyone in militia would show up as blue to you as a result of this.
3-Prior to these unfortunate incidents if we were to see an IRED fleet roaming the warzone they would show up to us as æneutralÆ
4-As explained before many a pilot fighting for the state can show up as a pirate due to said pilots sometimes aggressing what may seem like a neutral but would be in actuality a gallente agent, pirate corporation hauler/logistics pilot or any other æshade of greyÆ that one would understand when conducting day to day operations in this warzone. Not to mention a few over aggressive pilots that have been known to hide behind the milita banner but be a pirate at heart. Hence it is of the utmost importance for any new militia member to accurately set up his overview and cases of this friendly fire are a daily occurrence with any militia.
Bearing in mind the above I believe what happened to be as follows:
A: Someone from IRED engaged a militia pilot with negative standing under the assumption they were pirates. (see inaccurate overview settings)
B:A call was made out in the intel channels about a fleet ægoing pieÆ on a fellow militia member (something that happens about 10 times an hour in low security space)
C: Wolfsbrigade pilots were sent out to deal with what may have appeared to be a fleet ægoing pieÆ therefore fully making themselves a valid target for anyone in space. (See Global Criminal Countdown)
D:From here both IRED and WBR both assume they engaged valid pirates and the rest as they say is history
While the above is by no means a statement of facts it is my assumption on what has happened. Be that as it may the fact remains you have declared war on us disregarding diplomatic channels despite us trying said channels. The war is now mutual and this much is fact. Perhaps in the future more RESEARCH and GUIDANCE needs to be in effect before bluntly pushing the declare war button.
Enjoy your tea.
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Stalking Mantis
Caldari
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.04.05 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: X Gallentius
The Caldari government is not organized by corporations? Hmm, my Federation textbooks must be mistaken.
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/681800
BAH your textbooks. Did you read this?
http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=29-06-09
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