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LORD Terah Caldari Somalia Volunteer Coast Guard	Posted - 2011.04.02 00:57:00 - [1] Edited by: LORD Terah on 02/04/2011 01:05:19 Hi im a new outlaw in eve and a I have a question, How far away can you see a player on your overview in an asteroid grid(without extending it with cans)? The reason being somtimes when ore robbing i get completly full cans and don't have an indy nearby to pick them up with(becuase im not really after the ore and therefore dont bother to station one at every place i go) So i was wondering if i can tractor it far enough away that i disappear on said players overview. Then i could just bookmark it and get indy(within the 1 and 1/2 - 2 hour can limit) without him just warping to it and taking it back while im gone. The farthest i have tested is 1150KM and i could still see everyone in the belt. ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
Klazktrknuitzksalikamono	Posted - 2011.04.02 01:55:00 - [2] You're not an outlaw if you steal ore from jetcan miners in highsec.
LORD Terah Caldari Somalia Volunteer Coast Guard	Posted - 2011.04.02 02:12:00 - [3] Edited by: LORD Terah on 02/04/2011 02:13:35 Edited by: LORD Terah on 02/04/2011 02:12:58 Originally by: Klazktrknuitzksalikamono You're not an outlaw if you steal ore from jetcan miners in highsec. Last time i checked stealing is against the law. just cuase concord looks the other way does not make it legal. Did i claim to be a bad ass pirate tanking concord and soloing sleepers NO you f ing ret@rd i said im new and barely have enough SP to fight people even in high sec so go troll some other post with your stupid comments i'm not here to brag about my kills(ha)or try to make my e-p*nis bigger im here for some helpful info about a legit question. ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
Zen Sins	Posted - 2011.04.02 02:43:00 - [4] Originally by: LORD Terah Edited by: LORD Terah on 02/04/2011 01:05:19 Hi im a new outlaw in eve and a I have a question, How far away can you see a player on your overview in an asteroid grid(without extending it with cans)? The reason being somtimes when ore robbing i get completly full cans and don't have an indy nearby to pick them up with(becuase im not really after the ore and therefore dont bother to station one at every place i go) So i was wondering if i can tractor it far enough away that i disappear on said players overview. Then i could just bookmark it and get indy(within the 1 and 1/2 - 2 hour can limit) without him just warping to it and taking it back while im gone. The farthest i have tested is 1150KM and i could still see everyone in the belt. By "it" you mean a can right? Wouldn't you be effectively extending the grid with cans then? Try flying away from them without a can sometime. They should disappear at 300km.
LORD Terah Caldari Somalia Volunteer Coast Guard	Posted - 2011.04.02 03:05:00 - [5] By "IT" i mean the grid sorry about being vague and thank you for an answer to my question i dont mean to "rage" but i hate trolls or people that post in others topics about somthing meaningless like whether or not im a pirate in his book. yes i know the eve community is BURTAL and has NO MERCEY for new players and that newbies are their favorate targets i keep this in mind as i fly and i respond to rudeness in kind. Just becuase i rob/attack someone doesn't mean i have to be a douche about it. its nothing personal in game its about isk/lulz, and if i get poped for it its always nice to see a GF instead of smacktalk. ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
ao daning	Posted - 2011.04.02 06:51:00 - [6] Originally by: LORD Terah So i was wondering if i can tractor it far enough away that i disappear on said players overview. --- The farthest i have tested is 1150KM and i could still see everyone in the belt. Tractor beam velocity 500m/s Test distance = 1,150,000m Time at max speed = 1,150,000 / 500 = 2300 seconds = 38.3 minutes. note This is assuming your ship can travel 500m/s cap stable with a tractor beam on. If you really going to spend 30 minutes dragging 1 can to a spot which may or may not be off grid, you may want to reconsider your approach. One can is not worth that much time of trying to hide.
LORD Terah Caldari Somalia Volunteer Coast Guard	Posted - 2011.04.02 07:59:00 - [7] Originally by: ao daning Originally by: LORD Terah So i was wondering if i can tractor it far enough away that i disappear on said players overview. --- The farthest i have tested is 1150KM and i could still see everyone in the belt. Tractor beam velocity 500m/s Test distance = 1,150,000m Time at max speed = 1,150,000 / 500 = 2300 seconds = 38.3 minutes. note This is assuming your ship can travel 500m/s cap stable with a tractor beam on. If you really going to spend 30 minutes dragging 1 can to a spot which may or may not be off grid, you may want to reconsider your approach. One can is not worth that much time of trying to hide. Yes your right it would be much more cost effective to just mine my own, Bring an indy, or not try for the cans at all. I was just curious about the distance but it turns out to be a mute point cuase like Zen Sins said when i bring the can with me i am extending my grid range so my plan would not have worked anyway. PLUS i found that if i don't drop a can every 250km(or have a player as a marker) and past the original size when you warp back your can is gone :( I was the placeholder for the grid so when i left the bookmark was no longer connected to the asteroids grid it became deadspace, but i believe like Zen Sins said the distance it takes to not see another player is 300km any wrecks, players, jet cans extend this range to a maximum of 1000km thank you for your contributions to my question, and i now have my answer. I was just surprised there was no other topics about maximum distance you can see a player on the grid which is why i made this one. ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
Frau Klaps Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.04.02 19:10:00 - [8] One can of ore isn't really worth the effort of docking to get a hauler. You are not an outlaw, outlaws start at -5. What you are is a waste of space. ---
Pegleg Punk Minmatar	Posted - 2011.04.02 21:48:00 - [9] Originally by: Frau Klaps One can of ore isn't really worth the effort of docking to get a hauler. You are not an outlaw, outlaws start at -5. What you are is a waste of space. Mr. Terah, you are by no means a waste of space. By keeping your area of New Eden clean and free of pod pilot detritus, you sound more like a concerned citizen- a civil engineer as it were. As an additional bonus you are providing much needed player content to the otherwise coma inducing act of hi-sec mining! You would be surprised how many players will pay you (in the form of ore, ship modules, ransom, or all of the above) in exchange for this content! If that weren't enough some players will even flood your evemail or the local comms. channel with emotional tyrades of frustration and heartache. Do not be fooled by such masking of gratitude- revel in it! Down By Law: Musings of a Space Punk
Chatelaine Superior	Posted - 2011.04.03 01:14:00 - [10] Originally by: ao daning Originally by: LORD Terah So i was wondering if i can tractor it far enough away that i disappear on said players overview. --- The farthest i have tested is 1150KM and i could still see everyone in the belt. Tractor beam velocity 500m/s Test distance = 1,150,000m Time at max speed = 1,150,000 / 500 = 2300 seconds = 38.3 minutes. note This is assuming your ship can travel 500m/s cap stable with a tractor beam on. If you really going to spend 30 minutes dragging 1 can to a spot which may or may not be off grid, you may want to reconsider your approach. One can is not worth that much time of trying to hide. i once used cap stable-nano noctis to tractor wrecks from belt grid. i made 3500km and still was in grid. i think imposible to move objects from grid using tractor beams.. grid just gonna extend. but not sure here about game meachnics. anyway... 3500km

LORD Terah Caldari Somalia Volunteer Coast Guard	Posted - 2011.04.03 09:49:00 - [11] Originally by: Frau Klaps One can of ore isn't really worth the effort of docking to get a hauler. You are not an outlaw, outlaws start at -5. What you are is a waste of space. I would like to point a few things out for you Frau Klaps: A. i believe you are a troll/have issues i know this because in every other topic you have posted in was to dis the maker of it or say some useless hate filled comment that is off topic(like 50% of eve players :) therefore i will not rise the the bait(don't feed the trolls) B. a full can of viscous pyroxeres atm goes for about 4-5mil(still not worth the effort of docking/undocking?) C. i may or maynot be a waste of space(this has yet to be seen because of SP atm but like all things with time they grow)BUT ill be a waste of space with YOUR loot in my cargo hold flying off into the sunset. Afterthought: Ty Pegleg i do feel that cleaning up space of all these jetcans is an underrated but important job for outlaws in training. You get to fight players roughly your own sp rating(the higher ones use LSC/hulks), get some cash on the side, and if they fight back with their pvp ships you get to sharpen your pvp skills for lowsec/0.0 when your employment history does not scream gank me im new. ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
Lucia Wilber Minmatar Our Own Pirate Society	Posted - 2011.04.03 23:51:00 - [12] Edited by: Lucia Wilber on 03/04/2011 23:51:05 Originally by: LORD Terah Last time i checked stealing is against the law. Actually, it's not against the law in the EVE universe, and stealing from an in-game can is not illegal in the real world either, so you're not an outlaw. Stealing entitles the other party to fire on you, but you're not breaking the law by stealing from someone in EVE.
Corina's Bodyguard	Posted - 2011.04.04 00:12:00 - [13] Um... this idea can't work anyway. You can only tractor your own (or abandoned) cans. So you couldn't move the can of your target.
Lucia Wilber Minmatar Our Own Pirate Society	Posted - 2011.04.04 04:09:00 - [14] Also, I wanted to add... Many objects disappear from your overview at about 360km, such as ships, station/gate guns, etc. However, cargo cans have a much longer detection range, as do NPC rats. I'm not sure what the maximum range of a can is, personally. I would suggest dropping one in the middle of nowhere and flying an interceptor or other fast ship away from it until it disappears from your overview.
LORD Terah Caldari Somalia Volunteer Coast Guard	Posted - 2011.04.04 04:52:00 - [15] Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard Um... this idea can't work anyway. You can only tractor your own (or abandoned) cans. So you couldn't move the can of your target. You did not read the post did you? If i already fliped the can(drop my own and put their stuff inside)and they flew off to mine somewhere else then it IS my can and i CAN tractor it but yes this plan would not work for the reasons i posted earlyer. Oh and Lucia Wilber that is a good idea to test the range which i believe it is around 300km, but i disagree with you about the law breaking part. Concord knows you stole it. They just don't care/don't inforce loot theft that's why they flag you with a 15 min timer so that you(or your corp) can dispense your own form of "Great Justice" p.s. Why does everyone care if i'm an outlaw or not? Are you that concerned that i call myself one? Thats not what this post is about. I'm not out to prove myself to anyone. I know who i am. ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
Lucia Wilber Minmatar Our Own Pirate Society	Posted - 2011.04.05 04:08:00 - [16] Originally by: LORD Terah Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard Um... this idea can't work anyway. You can only tractor your own (or abandoned) cans. So you couldn't move the can of your target. You did not read the post did you? If i already fliped the can(drop my own and put their stuff inside)and they flew off to mine somewhere else then it IS my can and i CAN tractor it but yes this plan would not work for the reasons i posted earlyer. Oh and Lucia Wilber that is a good idea to test the range which i believe it is around 300km, but i disagree with you about the law breaking part. Concord knows you stole it. They just don't care/don't inforce loot theft that's why they flag you with a 15 min timer so that you(or your corp) can dispense your own form of "Great Justice" p.s. Why does everyone care if i'm an outlaw or not? Are you that concerned that i call myself one? Thats not what this post is about. I'm not out to prove myself to anyone. I know who i am. Well, EVE lore actually states what a violation of the law is. If it doesn't violate the law, by definition it is not illegal. There is no law in place about stealing someone else's stuff. The fact that Concord allows people to use force to defend their property does not inherently make the act of theft itself against the law. Concord isn't "choosing to look the other way", they're ignoring a legal act. There's a difference. In other words, just because you think it is or should be illegal does not make it so. As for calling yourself "outlaw", it's a matter of semantics. The EVE universe has its own definition of "outlaw". It would be like a miner calling himself a "pirate" if all he does is mine all day. While it's true that he has a right to call himself whatever he wants he is not, by any definition, a pirate. If you're going to use a term that does not apply to your activities, be prepared for people to call you out on it. That being said, if someone does call you out on it, it's better to ignore them entirely than to try and argue definitions...especially if your definition doesn't apply in the EVE universe. As previously stated, stealing is in no way, shape or form illegal in EVE because it does not violate any laws.
LORD Terah Caldari Somalia Volunteer Coast Guard	Posted - 2011.04.07 03:30:00 - [17] From evewiki: Stealing from a Container or Wreck When you attempt to take or move items from containers or wrecks in Empire Space, it may result in you being criminally flagged to other players. Whether you get criminally flagged and who you get criminally flagged to depends on who owns the container/wreck and whether, if you're not the owner, you have an implicit right to take from it. This criminal flag lasts for 15 minutes. When taking is not stealing If you do not own a loot or jettison container, you may still have an implicit right to take from it. However, this is only if the owner of the container: ò Has given you a personal standing of 10 ò Is in the same player corporation as you ò Is in the same gang as you (and is located in the same solar system as you). ò Since Dominion it has been possible for a player to set their wrecks as "available to all". This allows anyone to take from their wrecks and cans without any consequences. Wrecks marked this way appear blue on the overview, rather than the usual yellow or white. What happens when you steal When you take something from a container/wreck that does not belong to you and which you do not have the implicit right to take things from, you will be shown a confirmation dialog asking you if you really want to steal it and warning you of the consequences. If you choose to go ahead and steal despite the warning, you will be criminal flagged to: ò The corporation which the owner of the container/wreck belongs to, if it is not an NPC corporation. ò The owner of the container/wreck (this is not done if the ownerÆs corporation was flagged). Like i said Lucia Wilber your welcome to your own opinion as is everyone in the world but i disagree with you on this one. They use the word criminaly flaged that implys that you broke a law be it a minor one it is still a law broken. ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US


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