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Rek Jaiga Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:30:00 - [31] Originally by: Driselle You should see the gun that Syn has to check every time we go to the club! I am incredibly glad that thing hasn't been pulled out on me...
Half Cocked Jack	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:11:00 - [32] If they are fleeing, either out of cowardice of the inability to fight any longer, then the fight is over. Shooting people in the back isn't my style.
Dame Death Minmatar Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:32:00 - [33] I agree with jack, shooting people in the back is one of the few things I don't do. But if I had no choice, The Admiral, any chance to weaken their fleet even a little. Logs of a Brutor
Rek Jaiga Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:40:00 - [34] Originally by: ValentinaDLM Am I the only one who enjoys the irony that the Amarrian ships, using lasers wouldn't have to make this choice? Hah, I hadn't noticed that! Though I am more or less certain atmospheric effects would make laser weaponry much less effective than in space.
Koronakesh Amarr Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:44:00 - [35] If you're using a second generation or faction-produced crystal, you will have a last shot.
Maria Crases	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:47:00 - [36] Lest the Sacred don't have this issue since lasers don't use ammo. giggles I think you spend to much time shooting things. Would you shot me? puppy face
Uraniae Fehrnah	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:49:00 - [37] Lets see, in space, the Cartel Slave ring boss. If this was for some reason in person, and they were already fleeing, none of them. I'd fire my last round as a warning shot and politely request they all stop where they are while station authorities arrive on the scene. If they don't, oh well, if even one of them does, all the better.
Rek Jaiga Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators	Posted - 2011.04.06 22:55:00 - [38] Originally by: Koronakesh If you're using a second generation or faction-produced crystal, you will have a last shot. Well even regular crystals would take much higher damage in an atmosphere. High temperatures and oxygen play havoc on mechanical parts, after all. In fact, I'm not even sure if there are any planet-side laser weapons at all. I've only ever really seen projectile and railgun weapons planet-side, to be honest.
Mizhara Del'thul Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.04.06 23:25:00 - [39] None of them. They've been defeated. Humiliated. Humbled. Let them return home in shame, knowing they were the inferior ones. Death is too merciful for any of these, when shame and humiliation is an option.
Anddeh McNab Cadre Assault Force	Posted - 2011.04.07 07:32:00 - [40] Originally by: Korvan Hraldir Davanev Grounded today by a software upgrade to the ships sysstems so I thought I would pass a little time by posing a qustion one of my staff asked me. End of a firefight, down to your last bullet, 3 fleeing targets and no time to reload a) Amarrian Bishop b) Ammatar Admiral c) Cartel Slave ring boss Only time and ammo to finish one of them. Who gets your last bullet? An interesting question. Well, the Cartel Slave Ring Boss is only making a dishonest ISK and there's no guarantee his slaves would benefit from his death. The Bishop is a product of his own lies, it would be akin to punsishing a Caldari for being too industrious. So that leaves the Admiral... I wouldn't shoot to kill but I would give him/her a nice keepsake so they can savour their defeat.
Aiwha Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2011.04.07 07:42:00 - [41] Originally by: Rek Jaiga Originally by: ValentinaDLM Am I the only one who enjoys the irony that the Amarrian ships, using lasers wouldn't have to make this choice? Hah, I hadn't noticed that! Though I am more or less certain atmospheric effects would make laser weaponry much less effective than in space. However, your weapons capacitor is going to be much less grand than say an Abaddon's. And I doubt you could cram a real generator on a handweapon... There's no such thing as overkill, only degrees of effectiveness.
Diana Kim Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.07 09:00:00 - [42] Originally by: Ava Starfire The Amarrian bishop, and I would aim "to wound". I would then introduce him to Vitoc. As it was said, the true desire of a slave is not to get rid of his master, but to have his own slaves. D.Kim, Colonel --- We live and die for the State
Rek Jaiga Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators	Posted - 2011.04.07 11:41:00 - [43] Originally by: Diana Kim As it was said, the true desire of a slave is not to get rid of his master, but to have his own slaves. In this case I do believe the aim was not to enslave the bishop, but rather to introduce him to the tragic situation of being on Vitoc.
Rek Jaiga Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:19:00 - [44] Originally by: Aiwha However, your weapons capacitor is going to be much less grand than say an Abaddon's. And I doubt you could cram a real generator on a handweapon... Precisely why I'm wondering whether or not there are hand-held or shoulder-mounted laser weaponry for infantry. I mean I don't spend any time with Amarrian ground forces (in fact I've only ever seen Republic ground troops), so I'm not sure. I can certainly see the appeal of projectile weaponry though, being cheaper and easier to maintain.
Alica Wildfire Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:32:00 - [45] Edited by: Alica Wildfire on 07/04/2011 12:37:09 When I'm in a Hound Stealth Bomber and have fitted a last bomb, I blast the thing into middle of the three of them. They should have turned off their microwarp drivesà The mere idea to have those three targets but only one shot left makes me jumpy like a hungry squirrel which you fed coffeine tablets which you soaked with drips of speed boosters. Coming an Amarrian Bishop, an Ammatar General and an Angel Cartel Boss into a barà How would that one go on, you think? -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
Ryven Krennel Caldari Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:54:00 - [46] Originally by: Rek Jaiga Originally by: Aiwha However, your weapons capacitor is going to be much less grand than say an Abaddon's. And I doubt you could cram a real generator on a handweapon... Precisely why I'm wondering whether or not there are hand-held or shoulder-mounted laser weaponry for infantry. I mean I don't spend any time with Amarrian ground forces (in fact I've only ever seen Republic ground troops), so I'm not sure. I can certainly see the appeal of projectile weaponry though, being cheaper and easier to maintain. There are infantry energy weapons. You're correct, though, in assuming it is not as simple as a projectile weapon. Because of this, it is much more common to see hybrid and projectile style personal weaponry. As for the mechanics of it, these energy pistols and such generally are hooked directly into a power supply pack that is worn on the soldier's back. Even so, this power is hardly limitless. The weapons are pretty effective though. "I retrofitted my ships to fire produce. It's all the rage."
Nauplius Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard	Posted - 2011.04.07 12:54:00 - [47] Offer a final prayer for God's forgiveness, and then shoot yourself. (Assuming for this hypothetical that you have to shoot something; better to throw down your weapon and offer yourself into slavery.)
Rek Jaiga Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:03:00 - [48] Originally by: Ryven Krennel As for the mechanics of it, these energy pistols and such generally are hooked directly into a power supply pack that is worn on the soldier's back. Even so, this power is hardly limitless. The weapons are pretty effective though. So I imagined. I bet its a pretty grisly sight, seeing a pulse laser used on the human body..
Korvan Hraldir Davanev Silver and Gold Enterpises	Posted - 2011.04.07 13:06:00 - [49] Edited by: Korvan Hraldir Davanev on 07/04/2011 13:07:28 Originally by: Nauplius Offer a final prayer for God's forgiveness, and then shoot yourself. (Assuming for this hypothetical that you have to shoot something; better to throw down your weapon and offer yourself into slavery.) If there is one thing more than any other that irritates me about Amarrians is their complete absence of any sense of humour.
Lyn Farel Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.04.10 11:42:00 - [50] I am pretty sure if an amarrian loyalist did a similar post involving a last energy cell in a pulsegun and 3 targets to shoot - a freedom fighter, a republic general and a blooder - most of the matari loyalists speaking here would have been offended.
Chinwe Rhei Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2011.04.10 13:02:00 - [51] Knowing what i do now about the circumstances of the Nefantar's original defection and their sacrifice, i don't think i could just shoot one in the back. In a ship, in space, sure, but that would just be undignified. The Amarrian bishop, i'm torn. I wouldn't just shoot him for being a bishop - as a civilian, but he was presumably involved in the firefight somehow. But really it would have to be the Cartel Slaver. He's not just involved with owning slaves or passively complicit to the perpetuation of slavery, but likely actively involved in enslaving our kin right now. Bullet to the head.
Koronakesh Amarr Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.04.10 14:00:00 - [52] Originally by: Lyn Farel I am pretty sure if an amarrian loyalist did a similar post involving a last energy cell in a pulsegun and 3 targets to shoot - a freedom fighter, a republic general and a blooder - most of the matari loyalists speaking here would have been offended. Make the thread and find out.
Daemeon Fyral Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2011.04.10 14:03:00 - [53] Looking at things from a purely symbolic stance as far as what the 3 represent within the Amarrian slave trade and culture, then I would choose the bishop, religion is the primary driving force behind the Amarrian slave culture. Without religion no slavery, no slavery no customers thus eliminating the Cartel boss, also eliminates the need for war between our people thus making the admiral no longer my enemy. If this is a more realistic question then it would have to be the Admiral, the bishop is a civilian and while still dangerous is not an immediate physical threat to me. The Cartel Boss while a threat and a criminal is one who is best delt with by the authorities. The admiral however I am at war with and his actions directly impact and influence me every day making him the largest potential threat and the highest priority target to eliminate.
Chell Charon	Posted - 2011.04.10 15:55:00 - [54] Originally by: Alica Wildfire Edited by: Alica Wildfire on 07/04/2011 12:37:09 When I'm in a Hound Stealth Bomber and have fitted a last bomb, I blast the thing into middle of the three of them. They should have turned off their microwarp drivesà The mere idea to have those three targets but only one shot left makes me jumpy like a hungry squirrel which you fed coffeine tablets which you soaked with drips of speed boosters. Coming an Amarrian Bishop, an Ammatar General and an Angel Cartel Boss into a barà How would that one go on, you think? Bartender goes: "Hey slim howmuch for the fat one?" Cartel slaver: "You can have two for the price of one today." For the original, who ever I consider most responcible for the situation. Myself excluded.
Lyn Farel Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.04.10 15:58:00 - [55] Edited by: Lyn Farel on 10/04/2011 15:58:31 Originally by: Daemeon Fyral Looking at things from a purely symbolic stance as far as what the 3 represent within the Amarrian slave trade and culture, then I would choose the bishop, religion is the primary driving force behind the Amarrian slave culture. Without religion no slavery, no slavery no customers thus eliminating the Cartel boss, also eliminates the need for war between our people thus making the admiral no longer my enemy. If this is a more realistic question then it would have to be the Admiral, the bishop is a civilian and while still dangerous is not an immediate physical threat to me. The Cartel Boss while a threat and a criminal is one who is best delt with by the authorities. The admiral however I am at war with and his actions directly impact and influence me every day making him the largest potential threat and the highest priority target to eliminate. You are at war with the ammatar admiral ? Really ? I am not aware of any wars between the Republic and the Mandate, and less with the Khanid Kingdom.
ValentinaDLM Minmatar Zaratha Zarati Shaktipat Revelators	Posted - 2011.04.10 16:46:00 - [56] Originally by: Lyn Farel Edited by: Lyn Farel on 10/04/2011 15:58:31 Originally by: Daemeon Fyral Looking at things from a purely symbolic stance as far as what the 3 represent within the Amarrian slave trade and culture, then I would choose the bishop, religion is the primary driving force behind the Amarrian slave culture. Without religion no slavery, no slavery no customers thus eliminating the Cartel boss, also eliminates the need for war between our people thus making the admiral no longer my enemy. If this is a more realistic question then it would have to be the Admiral, the bishop is a civilian and while still dangerous is not an immediate physical threat to me. The Cartel Boss while a threat and a criminal is one who is best delt with by the authorities. The admiral however I am at war with and his actions directly impact and influence me every day making him the largest potential threat and the highest priority target to eliminate. You are at war with the ammatar admiral ? Really ? I am not aware of any wars between the Republic and the Mandate, and less with the Khanid Kingdom. Some galnet entries do mention a war between the Mandate and republic http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Ammatar_Mandate The reality of the situation though, is much more small skirmishes fought by capsuleers, setup by various agents of those nations, not unlike what happens between the empire and federation for that matter. Galnet entries could however, be outdated or erroneous.
Lyn Farel Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.04.10 18:43:00 - [57] Edited by: Lyn Farel on 10/04/2011 18:43:30 Galnet entries are erronous. The Mandate and the Republic are not officially at war, even if some skirmishes between the two regularily occur on the border zone. In any case, the afore mentionned ammatar admiral is not at war with captain Fyral, nor with any other capsuleer.
Fatima Assani Minmatar Grid Square Removal System Draconian Protection Syndicate	Posted - 2011.04.11 09:57:00 - [58] I would choose... none of the options. I would never kill a fellow man. Not even a slave boss. _______________ Director of Industry and Development "An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind."
Korvan Hraldir Davanev Silver and Gold Enterpises	Posted - 2011.04.11 10:00:00 - [59] Originally by: Fatima Assani I would choose... none of the options. I would never kill a fellow man. Not even a slave boss. If you can survive as a capsuleer in this cluster without one day having blood on your hands then you will have my heartfelt congratulations. Are you telling me you have never fired on another ship - not even a belt pirate?
Korvan Hraldir Davanev Silver and Gold Enterpises	Posted - 2011.04.11 10:03:00 - [60] Originally by: Lyn Farel I am pretty sure if an amarrian loyalist did a similar post involving a last energy cell in a pulsegun and 3 targets to shoot - a freedom fighter, a republic general and a blooder - most of the matari loyalists speaking here would have been offended. Nope not offended at all - we are enemies, I would expect it. By the way I would shoot the blooder - mad dogs need putting down.

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