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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.04.12 01:28:00 -
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While I appreciate the dev blog and the followup thus far, I have to approach it with skepticism. CCP has many times claimed they would followup and then dropped the ball, in fact that's their MO in every previous incident.
Truth is this should never have happened. There had to be failures on multiple levels really. Project manager obviously failed to lead, anyone serving on the forum team failed to live up to their duties, and quality control for the project was nonexistent to miss such exploits.
We've had promises before that CCP would improve internal practices. Most famously after the T20 incident and then after the boot.ini incident. That's what is concerning of this issue, there seems to be a culture where no one is held accountable and thus no one in CCP feels accountable for anything therefore it keeps happening time and again. Something is rotten in the core.
However if you fail to fix it as a corporation you jeopardize everything, EVE, DUST, WoD, everything. How you handle this incident could well determine the fate of the future for CCP and all its projects.
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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.04.12 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Sreegs
Originally by: El'Niaga
We've had promises before that CCP would improve internal practices. Most famously after the T20 incident and then after the boot.ini incident. That's what is concerning of this issue, there seems to be a culture where no one is held accountable and thus no one in CCP feels accountable for anything therefore it keeps happening time and again. Something is rotten in the core.
I'm sorry that I'm selectively quoting and I REALLY don't want to appear to be defensive BUT... to my knowledge we haven't had another T20 or another boot.ini incident. I'm NOT saying you're wrong or right. But, in the interests of providing a differing perspective, companies, especially ones the size of CCP are going to make mistakes. While this was a really bad mistake and you have every single right to be mad about it I'm not sure one should make a comparison to incidents involving completely unrelated areas of the company that occurred over... 5-7 years ago and haven't been repeated since.
I'm just not sure I personally get the comparison is all.
You mean like the fatal security system of your current forum fiasco....and yes I'd put that right up there with boot.ini. Also its well known T20 was not the only individual to cheat in a position of power, though I believe the other was a GM not a dev, maybe even 2 GMs did....
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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.04.12 17:42:00 -
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I sincerely hope they've taken this whole thing back to the drawing board. I don't believe folks will trust them if they are put up in the next week or month. Delayed launch of the new forums for probably at least 6 months should be expected.
Hopefully they rigorously test the new forums before they are ever up again.
I'd like to say something about them in the time they were up. They were less functional than the existing forums. They needed a lot of work and honestly I'd drop the like feature that's just going to lead to more troll posting as it does in every forum that uses it just to run up perceived status.
I had posted some mostly in features and ideas, but honestly looking at them I could see spending a lot less time on them and posting than I have in the past. Perhaps a good use for the CSM might be to get their ideas on the forums before they are put up for general use again.
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