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Dr Derek
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Posted - 2005.02.07 12:34:00 -
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what about a first person view.. i like to be able to change from first person to 3rd person view in games.. but i dunno if this could work in eve, would be nice tho 
"if you can't beat em, join em"
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.02.07 12:52:00 -
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Not really sure this would be of much use really - it's not like you can actually fly your ship or aim your guns manually properly anyway - would be an eye-candy feature at most.
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Dr Derek
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Posted - 2005.02.07 12:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Matthew
Not really sure this would be of much use really - it's not like you can actually fly your ship or aim your guns manually properly anyway - would be an eye-candy feature at most.
sweet, i like the manual gun thing idea.. but "eye-candy" feature is what i'm after
"if you can't beat em, join em"
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.02.07 13:01:00 -
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Well, manual control like that is never going to happen - it's just not practical to support it in this sort of game architecture.
And yeah, would be a nice eye-candy feature, but the programmers already have more than enough to do fixing stuff.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.02.07 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 07/02/2005 13:58:05
You can't really have a first person view in Eve since you probably have your eyes closed while you're in a ship anyway. You see, you're floating in a pod filled with neurofluid. The only reason you have the third-person view you have is because of your camera drone which is linked to your mind via the ships system and the neural interface of the pod in the ship. There's no*****pit/control centre in your ship and there's no camera mounted on the nose of your ship so there can be no real first person viewmode.
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.02.07 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
There's no*****pit/control centre in your ship and there's no camera mounted on the nose of your ship so there can be no real first person viewmode.
Well, no storyline reason why there can't be a camera in the nose of your ship...or why you can't get your camera drone to take up a position just in front of your ship and look forward....you can already move it to that position manually...just need a "lock camera reletive to ship" button and you'd get a workable first person mode.
And while there isn't a proper control centre as you say, several ships do seem to have things suspiciouly resembling windscreens, even if they are blacked-out (could just be one-way glass though).
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Mirage swe
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Posted - 2005.02.07 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Matthew
Originally by: Nyphur
There's no*****pit/control centre in your ship and there's no camera mounted on the nose of your ship so there can be no real first person viewmode.
Well, no storyline reason why there can't be a camera in the nose of your ship...or why you can't get your camera drone to take up a position just in front of your ship and look forward....you can already move it to that position manually...just need a "lock camera reletive to ship" button and you'd get a workable first person mode.
And while there isn't a proper control centre as you say, several ships do seem to have things suspiciouly resembling windscreens, even if they are blacked-out (could just be one-way glass though).
Read the short story "The Jovian Wetgrave".
It tells you why the UI is as it is.
//Mirage swe
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Hawk Firestorm
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Posted - 2005.02.07 14:43:00 -
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Not any point in this, as there's no proportional control method.
The first person view would be useless as far as functionality goes.
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JD's
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Posted - 2005.02.07 15:06:00 -
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id rather they fix the look at bug, i mean they introduced nice shiney explosions but you cant see them as the camera resets itself, one of the most annoying things ever to grace eve (besides mining)
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.02.07 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Mirage swe
Read the short story "The Jovian Wetgrave".
It tells you why the UI is as it is.
Well, I think the Camera Drones chronicle is more relevant here, to be honest. And yes, that says why they don't use cameras on the ships hull, or advanced VR systems.....doesn't give any reason why you couldn't set your camera drone to auto-hover around the front of your ship though, to give a pseudo-first-person view....if it makes the pilot feel ill doing it, that's his problem!
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Attrezzo Pox
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Posted - 2005.02.07 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Derek
what about a first person view.. i like to be able to change from first person to 3rd person view in games.. but i dunno if this could work in eve, would be nice tho
"if you can't beat em, join em"
no one seems to read the storylines anymore. If you look at the background of the game you're in a Pod and you have a "camera drone" that's indestructable and untargetable outside of your ship. It's also really really fast and can go through solid objects. Anyway that means no first person view as your pod isn't equiped with a windshield, and also means no crew. Which is why you're so loved by your people and such a superstar. Pod training is rigorous and extremely taxing on your nervous system, but once it's over your neural implants and your strong mind can make anything on your ship do whatever you want it to do. You can thank the jovians for that. Read up. |
Matthew
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Posted - 2005.02.07 16:00:00 -
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[ Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
Originally by: Dr Derek
what about a first person view.. i like to be able to change from first person to 3rd person view in games.. but i dunno if this could work in eve, would be nice tho
"if you can't beat em, join em"
no one seems to read the storylines anymore. If you look at the background of the game you're in a Pod and you have a "camera drone" that's indestructable and untargetable outside of your ship. It's also really really fast and can go through solid objects. Anyway that means no first person view as your pod isn't equiped with a windshield, and also means no crew. Which is why you're so loved by your people and such a superstar. Pod training is rigorous and extremely taxing on your nervous system, but once it's over your neural implants and your strong mind can make anything on your ship do whatever you want it to do. You can thank the jovians for that. Read up.
I have read up...and as you say, those camera drones are really really fast. So fast and maneuverable that holding position just in front of the nose of your ship while facing away from your ship - thus simulating a first-person view - would be well within it's capabilities. Sure, it may not be especially useful, but then neither is shoving the camera drone up your own tailpipe, and you can do that.
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