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suZy pLaIn	Posted - 2011.04.18 16:08:00 - [1] I am seeing a lot of discontent in the EVE community lately. I do understand that the forums are filled with 50% cry babies, 40% trolls, and 10% community activists but, it still seems CCP is driving the car off the cliff with all the anger I see. What can CCP do make "us" (the EVE community) happy and excited to play again?
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.04.18 16:08:00 - [2] Rabble rabble rabble!!!!!
Yuki Kulotsuki	Posted - 2011.04.18 16:08:00 - [3] EVE is dying. C. -- Did you know there's an alliance who's name you're not allowed to say, or website you're not allowed to link?
Issa Barthelemy Minmatar Exploration and Exploitation	Posted - 2011.04.18 16:13:00 - [4] Edited by: Issa Barthelemy on 18/04/2011 16:14:00 how big % of the playerbase actually read the forum, and care what it says? ---- 叙事詩
Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc. Sin City Coalition	Posted - 2011.04.18 16:16:00 - [5] its like the seasons, you get good ones and bad ones. bad ones tend to follow or preceed big changes. mostly by us bitter vets.
JC Anderson Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.04.18 16:17:00 - [6] It's not recent. It's been like this for years.
suZy pLaIn	Posted - 2011.04.18 16:18:00 - [7] Originally by: Xtreem its like the seasons, you get good ones and bad ones. bad ones tend to follow or preceed big changes. mostly by us bitter vets. Good point. tbh that makes a lot of since with the 0.0 changes and all.
Gwenywell Shumuku	Posted - 2011.04.18 16:19:00 - [8] CCP can only do 1 thing, as they said during fanfest: DELIVER They have to prove they can deliver good content, with scope and polish. What they did during the past years was releasing unfinished content, just the bare minimum, and then never touch it again (although they promised they would). You tolerate that for some time, but its nearing to an end. If you look closely on subscription graphs (fanfest, QEN) you see that they are stagnating (they grow, then fall again, doing it 3-4 times over the past year). So, is EVE dying? Nah, even if EVE wouldn't grow anymore, it wouldnt die. Even if it got down to 100.000 subs it would still work, as long as CCP would fund itself over other projects.
Ana Vyr	Posted - 2011.04.18 16:19:00 - [9] Lately? EvE attracts intelligent people to it's playstyle model. Such people are often imaginative, and can really see where the game could be taken. The glacial pace of development is often frustrating to these kinds of folks, so it's no wonder we see so much ranting and raving around here. As to whether there is more disgruntlement lately, perhaps there has been. We've just witnessed the failure of the new forums, and we are sitting on the brink of the highly controversial Incarna content after many years of waiting and speculating. I don't find it surprising that the forums are quite active and quite critical lately.
Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc. Sin City Coalition	Posted - 2011.04.18 16:20:00 - [10] Originally by: suZy pLaIn Originally by: Xtreem its like the seasons, you get good ones and bad ones. bad ones tend to follow or preceed big changes. mostly by us bitter vets. Good point. tbh that makes a lot of since with the 0.0 changes and all. Been involved in many of them, 7.5 years in, i count as a bitter vet in some cases, and a fan boi in others! swings and roundabouts and all that. in a few months it will all calm down, till the next change! the forum crew is always the most loud when it comes to changes!
Tamahra Gallente Caminus Trux Germani Ewoks	Posted - 2011.04.18 16:22:00 - [11] RABBLE
suZy pLaIn	Posted - 2011.04.18 16:34:00 - [12] For a new player, as I am, I read the forums to get a better picture of the community. But when I read the general community i see a game that is crashing into the abyss. I even watched the FanFest videos on youtube and i felt like CCP was trolling the community with the video the "A Future Vision" video they showed. They show it but won't talk about how soon or the major pieces of the puzzle... Dust. A carrot on a stick is still a great scam.
Ebbytingizotay	Posted - 2011.04.18 16:38:00 - [13] Ebbytingizotay!!!
Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc. Sin City Coalition	Posted - 2011.04.18 16:39:00 - [14] as you are new... and ccp have not pruned the forums, browse back around 10k pages to 2003/4/5/6 and read the whines. its an endless cycle :)
Copine Callmeknau Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams The KWFL Republic	Posted - 2011.04.18 16:41:00 - [15] Originally by: suZy pLaIn I am seeing a lot of discontent in the EVE community since forever FYP ...oh wait Stunning EVE Online Theme for PS3
Montgomery Crabapple	Posted - 2011.04.18 16:42:00 - [16] Originally by: Ana Vyr EvE attracts intelligent people Have you ever stopped and read the smack in low sec local?
Ridley Tree Veto.	Posted - 2011.04.18 17:08:00 - [17] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Rabble rabble rabble!!!!! Rabble Rabble Rabble!!!! _______ Pirating 101: A Basic Course
Ana Vyr	Posted - 2011.04.18 17:10:00 - [18] Originally by: Montgomery Crabapple Originally by: Ana Vyr EvE attracts intelligent people Have you ever stopped and read the smack in low sec local? I conceeed that you have made a good point here. Maybe I should have said the ones that post on here are intelligent....hmmmm. OK, just forget I said anything.
Sullen Skoung	Posted - 2011.04.18 17:16:00 - [19] epic troll op, good job -------- Dammit, they killed the post where Sreegs says personal attacks are against the rules. I wanted to lol at him for that
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2011.04.18 17:22:00 - [20] Originally by: suZy pLaIn I am seeing a lot of discontent in the EVE community lately. I do understand that the forums are filled with 50% cry babies, 40% trolls, and 10% community activists but, it still seems CCP is driving the car off the cliff with all the anger I see. What can CCP do make "us" (the EVE community) happy and excited to play again? I've followed the forums regularly for about 4 or 5 years now and the level of complaints is pretty much what it always has been. The only big legitimate topic of discontent is with CCP failing to deliver what they promise/bringing underwhelming new content that they think is amazing. CCP actually have awesome vision for the game and most features, but they constantly fail to deliver on it for what ever reason and fail to develop it further. Everything else(and that too actually now that I really think about it ) is pretty much whinage as usual/trolling. We aren't really excited about anything, since we don't know ****. CCP either has nothing to show(unlikely) or is keeping all the details of anything good concealed(likely). Since we don't have any new topics to talk and spculate about, we endlessly mull over old issues and complaints.
Julius Rigel Sub-warp Racing Venture	Posted - 2011.04.18 17:24:00 - [21] Originally by: suZy pLaIn I am seeing a lot of discontent in the EVE community lately. I do understand that the forums are filled with 50% cry babies, 40% trolls, and 10% community activists but, it still seems CCP is driving the car off the cliff with all the anger I see. What can CCP do make "us" (the EVE community) happy and excited to play again? 2005 called, they want their post back. Also, did you get any messages from the 90s? I was waiting to hear back from them concerning this phone call joke I found with their address on it.
Lonesome Joe	Posted - 2011.04.18 17:41:00 - [22] I would like at least some kinda answer by CCP regarding certain gameplay issues/elements. I mean...They can say no, "No we are not going to change Blasters, Bounty Hunting System, Low Sec, other T3 ship to be as desirable as the Tengu, Magnetom drops, scan probe manipulation in space, etc." Or say "We are considering the following requested gameplay improvements...But don't expect anything in the next 6 months so don't ask till then." I mean hell...People have been asking for a change to the Bounty Hunting system for years, veterans and newbies alike and I haven't herd boo about it from CCP.
HeIIfire11	Posted - 2011.04.18 17:49:00 - [23] Originally by: Issa Barthelemy Edited by: Issa Barthelemy on 18/04/2011 16:14:00 how big % of the playerbase actually read the forum, and care what it says? Gotta love this argument.It may seem that way yes but the rest of the player base has an opinion too and I'll tell you what,the ones posting care about eve.The others just quit when they are sick of it.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2011.04.18 17:59:00 - [24] Originally by: suZy pLaIn I am seeing a lot of discontent in the EVE community lately. I do understand that the forums are filled with 50% cry babies, 40% trolls, and 10% community activists but, it still seems CCP is driving the car off the cliff with all the anger I see. all of this has happened before, all of this will happen again or, in short, eve-o has raged many times in the past, it's nothing shocking _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like.
Katra Novac	Posted - 2011.04.18 18:20:00 - [25] Originally by: JC Anderson It's not recent. It's been like this for years. This
Seul Manus	Posted - 2011.04.18 18:54:00 - [26] Originally by: Yuki Kulotsuki EVE is dying. C. Going by posts I have read Eve has been dieing since 2002.
Emperor Salazar Caldari Remote Soviet Industries	Posted - 2011.04.18 19:13:00 - [27] Community is actually really supportive right now. In fact I'd say "morale" is pretty decent. The last time things were really bad (relative to the average negativity here) was post-PI expansion (whenever that was).
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc.	Posted - 2011.04.18 19:34:00 - [28] Originally by: Destination SkillQueue I've followed the forums regularly for about 4 or 5 years now and the level of complaints is pretty much what it always has been. The only big legitimate topic of discontent is with CCP failing to deliver what they promise/bringing underwhelming new content that they think is amazing. CCP actually have awesome vision for the game and most features, but they constantly fail to deliver on it for what ever reason and fail to develop it further. Everything else(and that too actually now that I really think about it ) is pretty much whinage as usual/trolling. We aren't really excited about anything, since we don't know ****. CCP either has nothing to show(unlikely) or is keeping all the details of anything good concealed(likely). Since we don't have any new topics to talk and spculate about, we endlessly mull over old issues and complaints. I have to agree with the above as that is about my time frame in game and my experiences with in that time frame. Business as usual. Slade :Signature Temporarily Disabled:
Kristina Vanszar Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.18 19:48:00 - [29] 1. New UI 2. 2 Releases with little things that bother ( + new directional scanner) 3. Ship Redesign 4. Mining revamp 5. real NS revamp from my point of view.
Calathea Sata State War Academy	Posted - 2011.04.18 19:58:00 - [30] EVE is dying EVE is dying EVE is dying Unless CCP really start POLISHING and FINISHING stuff.

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