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Base Instinct
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Posted - 2011.04.19 20:29:00 -
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Looks like it was a ponzi after all.
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Jaiden Solo
Gallente
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.04.19 20:35:00 -
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Seems to be up
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
T2 Technologies Unlimited
SRS.
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Posted - 2011.04.19 20:40:00 -
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Who gives a ****?
Investor Relation | IPO Doc | BSACSE Listing |
Base Instinct
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Posted - 2011.04.19 20:41:00 -
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Edited by: Base Instinct on 19/04/2011 20:41:24
Well you gave enough of a **** to read and reply.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
T2 Technologies Unlimited
SRS.
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Posted - 2011.04.19 21:35:00 -
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Are you worried about your investment or something?
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Mordor Exuel
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Posted - 2011.04.19 21:58:00 -
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Good Evening,
Our hosting provider had an issue which resulted in the website being down.
Its up and running again. Sorry for the inconvenience!
Kind regards,
Mordor Exuel
http://www.phaserinc.com
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Charles Dalbert
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Posted - 2011.04.20 11:19:00 -
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Not decided to cash in the Ponzi scheme just yet, then?
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Eddie Lampert
Phaser Inc.
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Posted - 2011.04.20 12:30:00 -
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Edited by: Eddie Lampert on 20/04/2011 12:32:19
Edited by: Eddie Lampert on 20/04/2011 12:31:51
 Originally by: Charles Dalbert
Not decided to cash in the Ponzi scheme just yet, then?
If you don't trust us, or the concept, no problem. I don't think its necessary to act like a "everything I don't understand is a scam" bashing troll. We don't bother you, so why bothering us. We have a large customer base and the are more than satisfied. Thats what counts for us, nothing more and nothing less.
Regards,
Eddie Lampert.
CEO Phaser Inc.
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The Chuckles
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Posted - 2011.04.20 17:12:00 -
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Well said, you have been great to me and trust is important!
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Clown Pron
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Posted - 2011.04.20 17:40:00 -
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Honestly, I have to wonder why you feel the need to continue spamming your business in local throughout empire space. Makes me wonder if you're actually doing anything to generate the promised 5% weekly profit. |
egola
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.04.20 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Clown Pron
Honestly, I have to wonder why you feel the need to continue spamming your business in local throughout empire space. Makes me wonder if you're actually doing anything to generate the promised 5% weekly profit.
they ARE generating a MASSIVE profit, think about it, every isk they get it's profit (for themselves!) so any amount ANYONE puts in is profit......100% all the time, EVERY TIME!
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Eddie Lampert
Phaser Inc.
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Posted - 2011.04.20 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Clown Pron
Honestly, I have to wonder why you feel the need to continue spamming your business in local throughout empire space. Makes me wonder if you're actually doing anything to generate the promised 5% weekly profit.
Im glad to help you with this question. We have currently over 10 traders working for us in several corporations. Im not a trader(anymore). Mordor and I are running the corporations and the traders are focussing on the trading part.
Please let me know you have any other questions. If they are valuable for the community, please drop here. If its personal you may consider sending me an ingame message.
Regards,
Eddie Lampert.
CEO Phaser Inc.
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admiral fovios
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2011.04.20 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Eddie Lampert
Please let me know you have any other questions. If they are valuable for the community, please drop here. If its personal you may consider sending me an ingame message.
Regards,
Eddie Lampert.
CEO Phaser Inc.
I have a question. As it has been demonstrated time and again that ponzi schemes can run for years, paying old debtors off with new money, I'm sure a legitimate organization would jump at any opportunity to demonstrate the legitimacy of its operations.
So where can I find the link to your trusted 3rd party audit?
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Eddie Lampert
Phaser Inc.
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Posted - 2011.04.21 10:11:00 -
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Edited by: Eddie Lampert on 21/04/2011 10:11:18
Originally by: admiral fovios
So where can I find the link to your trusted 3rd party audit?
Im not aware of a 100% reliable 3rd party audit service. If we have to proof our legitimacy, the auditor must be able to proof theirs. And I doubt if they can do that up to the same standards as you require from us.
We won't give people acces to our financial data for the sake of an audit of course. We take the privacy of our traders and investors very seriously. Apart from that its an obvious risk, scamwise, to give people acces to our resources. We have a strict policy on people who are involved with Phaser Inc. We have to know them IRL or they have to be directly related to people we know IRL.
These are our standards, and I fully understand if people decide not to invest because of these standards.
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Clementina
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.04.21 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Eddie Lampert
If you don't trust us, or the concept, no problem. I don't think its necessary to act like a "everything I don't understand is a scam" bashing troll. We don't bother you, so why bothering us. We have a large customer base and they are more than satisfied. Thats what counts for us, nothing more and nothing less.
I think people call this a scam not because they don't understand it, but rather because they do understand it.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2011.04.21 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Eddie Lampert
Im not aware of a 100% reliable 3rd party audit service. If we have to proof our legitimacy, the auditor must be able to proof theirs. And I doubt if they can do that up to the same standards as you require from us. We won't give people acces to our financial data for the sake of an audit of course.
This is a bunch of malarkey if I ever seen it typed. Honestly, I've nothing to say on your operation (as you'll notice) but this bit of crap you posted is just that, crap.
Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes
Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves;
Aptitude and intellect are needless here;
'Tis impudence and money that grants fame. |
Eddie Lampert
Phaser Inc.
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Posted - 2011.04.22 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
This is a bunch of malarkey if I ever seen it typed. Honestly, I've nothing to say on your operation (as you'll notice) but this bit of crap you posted is just that, crap.[/justify]
Well, solid argumentation from your side at least.
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Ariane VoxDei
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Posted - 2011.04.22 08:55:00 -
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Quote:
Mordor Exuel
CEO Phaser Inc.
Quote:
Eddie Lampert.
CEO Phaser Inc.
Two CEO? The easter bunny must have been extra generous this year.
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Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.04.22 10:16:00 -
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scam!
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2011.04.22 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Eddie Lampert
Well, solid argumentation from your side at least.
Do not doubt that I could provide a nice and lengthy argument about your current service however, and truly, it is not worth my time. People are going to invest in you, mostly because they are stupid, and any points I make you'll just play straw man logic chopping with. That is the nature of the young and the deceitful. I think you are both.
Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes
Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves;
Aptitude and intellect are needless here;
'Tis impudence and money that grants fame. |
Eddie Lampert
Phaser Inc.
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Posted - 2011.04.22 13:09:00 -
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Edited by: Eddie Lampert on 22/04/2011 13:13:25
Edited by: Eddie Lampert on 22/04/2011 13:12:51
Edited by: Eddie Lampert on 22/04/2011 13:10:48
Edited by: Eddie Lampert on 22/04/2011 13:09:51
Originally by: Shar Tegral
... That is the nature of the young and the deceitful.
I think you are both.
Ah, we're getting personal now.
Obviously you should leave the thinking part to a horse since one has a bigger head.(at least I hope so)
The pedantic tone of your reply may reveal your little son or daughter doesn't listen to you anymore. And maybe because of that, every one who disagrees with you must be the same age as your kids. Well, since you started guessing around, here's my share 
Update: Ill stop posting here btw. Its indeed not worth my time.
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admiral fovios
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2011.04.22 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Eddie Lampert
Edited by: Eddie Lampert on 21/04/2011 10:11:18
Im not aware of a 100% reliable 3rd party audit service. If we have to proof our legitimacy, the auditor must be able to proof theirs. And I doubt if they can do that up to the same standards as you require from us.
I don't understand what the strength of liquor has to do with an audit. A Russian thing I guess?
In any event, I totally understand your concerns. I know an organization like yours would see the value in an audit. It must have been frustrating to realize there are no suitable auditors out there.
As the maximum goes, "Remarkable claims require remarkable proof." Could you please let us know what the trust problem was with the auditors you've considered? Since you've already put in that massive amount of work in an attempt to prove your legitimacy, you may as well put in that tiny bit of extra work to prove you made such efforts. Otherwise all that work is for naught. Plus it really would bolster your argument.
Looking forward to your forthcoming exposT.
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Vilgan Mazran
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2011.04.22 13:28:00 -
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Shar is annoying and not particularly market smart from what I've seen over the years. He is, however, 100% right. Phaser inc. is about as obvious a scam as it gets :P
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Cyniac
Gallente
Twilight Star Rangers
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Posted - 2011.04.22 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Eddie Lampert
Im not aware of a 100% reliable 3rd party audit service. If we have to proof our legitimacy, the auditor must be able to proof theirs. And I doubt if they can do that up to the same standards as you require from us.
Would you mind disclosing the criteria by which you would judge a 3rd party audit service to be 100% reliable, as opposed to say, 99% reliable?
Mind you - given than investors are putting their money into your hands (not into the hands of the auditors) it would actually seem that you are the ones who would really have to prove your legitimacy. But hey that's just me.
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Khanid Voltar
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Posted - 2011.04.22 14:21:00 -
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Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 22/04/2011 14:21:41
Originally by: admiral fovios
I don't understand what the strength of liquor has to do with an audit. A Russian thing I guess?
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As the maximum goes, "Remarkable claims require remarkable proof."
I always find it amusing when someone tries to be a spelling **** and then within the same post makes a similar mistake.
It's spelt maxim dude 
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2011.04.22 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Vilgan Mazran
Shar is {snip} not particularly market smart from what I've seen over the years.
Refusal to publicly speculate on market activity, specifically making suggestions for others, is not proof of failure. Nor is it proof of success either but meh. Even a broken clock is right twice a day - Seem we agree that I'm right about this. Mind you I'm not saying Phaser Inc is a scam. I'm just saying that this whole idea of setting up straw man criteria for reliability in others while touting one's unflappable trustworthiness is a flawed argument. If you point out that no one can be 100% reliable you must equally point out that this standard applies to yourself. You can't play both ends, obviously skewed to your exclusive benefit, and expect that no one is calling to say, "bull****". For all anyone knows, you are just one person with multiple accounts who spams local for any sucker to bite you bait. ^^^^ This may not be true but it also may be true. Phaser Inc is the one making claims. Phaser Inc should be the one to prove the validity of those claims. Not insisting that others prove themselves first. That argument tactic is used in confidence games.
Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes
Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves;
Aptitude and intellect are needless here;
'Tis impudence and money that grants fame. |
Maneck StreetPreacher
Gallente
haudquaquam munificus
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Posted - 2011.04.22 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Khanid Voltar
Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 22/04/2011 14:21:41
It's spelt maxim dude
Good catch.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2011.04.22 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Eddie Lampert
Update: Ill stop posting here btw. Its indeed not worth my time.
No surprise, when the questions become unavoidable most scammers leave saying exactly what you are saying. For myself, I'm going to list you as scam. You choose to avoid any kind of inspection. When someone points this out you call them troll. You act like someone went ad hominem over something as simple as being called young or deceitful. Truly dreadful personal attacks indeed. Don't worry though, like I said, you'll find people to fund your little game. I'll be here waiting for you to come around with your tired bragging of how you suckered so many people and took so much isk. Your kind is so predictable and ... ... so unoriginal.
Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes
Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves;
Aptitude and intellect are needless here;
'Tis impudence and money that grants fame. |
Khanid Voltar
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Posted - 2011.04.22 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Eddie Lampert
Update: Ill stop posting here btw. Its indeed not worth my time.
No surprise, when the questions become unavoidable most scammers leave saying exactly what you are saying. For myself, I'm going to list you as scam. You choose to avoid any kind of inspection. When someone points this out you call them troll. You act like someone went ad hominem over something as simple as being called young or deceitful. Truly dreadful personal attacks indeed. Don't worry though, like I said, you'll find people to fund your little game. I'll be here waiting for you to come around with your tired bragging of how you suckered so many people and took so much isk. Your kind is so predictable and ... ... so unoriginal.
You should have left it at the post before Shar... this one just makes it look you are bored and trolling for a response.
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Syds Sinclair
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Posted - 2011.04.23 01:55:00 -
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..Not at all Kahnid. Both posts are viable and accurate.
This thread reminds me of EBANK.
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