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Denuo Secus
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Posted - 2011.04.24 03:59:00 -
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Hi all,
did anyone use a Scorp solo or in a gang of two with some success? It's just an idea to mix enough (hopefully?) damage, ECM and some buffer to be able to fight lightly outnumbered. With some ECM capability I could disable top damage dealers of an opposing gang. The ECM burst is a nice GTFO option when the blob arrives. Worked quite well with BS5 - on Sisi at least.
I considered something like this:
[Scorpion, Torp ECM]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II
'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I
'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I
'Cetus' ECM Shockwave I
Warp Disruptor II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
- 445 DPS @20km
- 82k omni EHP
- 5.25 ECM strength (could be changed to racial FOTM maybe)
Problem I see is the lack of target painting or better webbing. Adding one of these would gimp the buffer even more. But without TP or web the Scorp does bad damage against even BCs. Fitting cruises would lower the damage to 249 DPS. Seems a bit low to me.
Any thoughts?
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Von Kroll
Caldari
Kroll's Legion
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Posted - 2011.04.24 07:17:00 -
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Yeah, use ECM augmentor rigs, keep the burst and the multis, and rely on ECM for your tank. Then, fit a painter and web. I use a large smartie in the highs with the Heavy Neut. You don't want to get jammed by ECM drones. Never fight more than you can reliably jam. This type of fit can work, but you need to decide what's most important between these three choices: gank, tank, and jam, and then fit to do the top 2 only. For solo, this usually means gank and jam. Additionally, sensor dampeners with scan res scripts work really well with a burst.
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Diablo Ex
Caldari
Reasonable People
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Posted - 2011.04.24 11:41:00 -
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Try Armour Tanking that beastie...
(Armor Scorpion)
-High Slots-
'Malkuth' Siege Missile Launcher I
'Malkuth' Siege Missile Launcher I
'Malkuth' Siege Missile Launcher I
'Malkuth' Siege Missile Launcher I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
-Mid Slots-
Meta 4 Racial ECM I
Meta 4 Racial ECM I
Meta 4 Racial ECM I
Meta 4 Racial ECM I
Phase Muon ECCM Caster I
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
-Low Slots-
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Damage Control II
-Rigs-
Large Bay Loading Accelerator I
Large Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
Play towards the Scorpion's Strengths.
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Blacksquirrel
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Posted - 2011.04.24 14:26:00 -
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Lol ^
I always wondered if you could armor tank the ole scorp to get more Jamage...and now I think I might want to try that.
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Soldarius
Caldari
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.04.25 07:04:00 -
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I briefly experimented with a burst ECM Scorp for large fleet combat. Was lolz warping into a probed group of arty Abaddons and hitting the burst. After about the third warp in, a nearby drake got a point on me and that was that. Strangely enough, Scorpion can actually tank very well. I think I was getting about 130k EHP on it. Cap was an issue with the smartbombs or MWD running. No targeting required.
Lows:
PDS IIx3
DC II
Mids:
'Cetus' ECM Shockwave
LSE IIx2
EM hardener II
Inv Fld II x2
Large Cap Booster w/800s
LiF Quad ... MWD
Highs:
4x assorted large smartbombs
combat probe launcher
T1 prototype cloak
rigs:
3x Large CDFE
Drones:
5x Warrior II
5x EC-600
I recall that there is a skill that decreases the cycle time of ECM modules. I imagine that would be very useful for ECM bursts.
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ELECTR0FREAK
Eye of God
United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.25 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Diablo Ex
Try Armour Tanking that beastie...
(Armor Scorpion)
-High Slots-
'Malkuth' Siege Missile Launcher I
'Malkuth' Siege Missile Launcher I
'Malkuth' Siege Missile Launcher I
'Malkuth' Siege Missile Launcher I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
-Mid Slots-
Meta 4 Racial ECM I
Meta 4 Racial ECM I
Meta 4 Racial ECM I
Meta 4 Racial ECM I
Phase Muon ECCM Caster I
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
-Low Slots-
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Damage Control II
-Rigs-
Large Bay Loading Accelerator I
Large Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
Play towards the Scorpion's Strengths.
I used to run with a setup like this, but with more jam (I usually flew with dedicated tackle). That damn Scorpion lived for freakin' EVER.
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Von Kroll
Caldari
Kroll's Legion
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Posted - 2011.04.25 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Soldarius
I briefly experimented with a burst ECM Scorp for large fleet combat. Was lolz warping into a probed group of arty Abaddons and hitting the burst. After about the third warp in, a nearby drake got a point on me and that was that. Strangely enough, Scorpion can actually tank very well. I think I was getting about 130k EHP on it. Cap was an issue with the smartbombs or MWD running. No targeting required.
Lows:
PDS IIx3
DC II
Mids:
'Cetus' ECM Shockwave
LSE IIx2
EM hardener II
Inv Fld II x2
Large Cap Booster w/800s
LiF Quad ... MWD
Highs:
4x assorted large smartbombs
combat probe launcher
T1 prototype cloak
rigs:
3x Large CDFE
Drones:
5x Warrior II
5x EC-600
I recall that there is a skill that decreases the cycle time of ECM modules. I imagine that would be very useful for ECM bursts.
The burst does benefit from the Scorpion's jam range bonus, so that with some ECM Projector rigs, you can get over 20km range out of the burst. I've always thought it would be fun to try using 4 or 5 Scorps with burst together, with one cycling a burst every 5-8 seconds so that they overlap. Against a tightly grouped gang of ships, that could be worth some tears in local...
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Diablo Ex
Caldari
Reasonable People
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Posted - 2011.04.25 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK
I used to run with a setup like this, but with more jam (I usually flew with dedicated tackle). That damn Scorpion lived for freakin' EVER.
Oh yea, Armored Scorpions are durable, and if you have a group to run with you can really "pump up the Jam" on this fitting. The OP was looking for a more "solo" outfit though. The Scorpion is no tackler, in fact it can barely get out of it's own way especially when sporting 2 heavy 1600mm armor plates. This is a "bait" setup. It's intended to "scram, jam, and spam" anybody that tackles it without major backup. You apply warp disruptor, web, neut, and ECM on your "Aggressor" and spam 'em with your torps. Let your victim come to you. It's the nature of the scorpion, don't step on them they will hurt you.
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