Originally by: Tom Gerard

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First issue is which race is best for this path?

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Originally by: Tom Gerard

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I have a lways dreamed about high risk marketing and with my PVE income I finally have the collateral to deal.

I will be plexing the new account for twelve months and ideally being profitable by that point. First issue is which race is best for this path?

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Originally by: Brock Nelson

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0/10

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Originally by: SencneS

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Amarr is the best, and I'm not saying that just because I'm Amarr :)

Amarr give you Bestower, The Largest Capacity vs Training time, all the way to Lvl 5, then Iteron V takes over. But the training time is huge to just topple over the Itty V's capacity.
Amarr's Transport ships are the best if you want to try Low-Sec gate busting (All to do with resists and armor amount)
Amarr Freighter is not the "most difficult" in terms of "time to kill" but it has additional benifits the "most difficult" to kill has a few seconds longer lastabiliyt.

Probably the most "successful" small group Freighter Ganking setup is Domi's. You can load up the armor and their drones hit the hardest in high-sec. So when Concord comes to the rescue you last a little bit longer as you plate the crap out of your domi, giving your drones a little extra time.

Here is run down of kill time it takes to kill a flat freighter (This is without additional skills like Armor and shield skills that give you a 5% per level bonus. Since the bonus effects all ships the same way, all that will happen is the times will increase but the ratios will remain the same.

This is using just one Domi, max skilled, 5 Ogre II Drones.

Charon - 316s
Providence - 328s
Oblisk - 353s
Fenrir - 307s

If all you're going to do is fly around in a Freighter Oblisk is the way to go, second largest capacity, and takes way longer to kill. Which would make Gallente the best Trading toon, those 2 Racial levels on on Frigate give you a small few hours window advantage

In a way Gallente is best because Iteron V and Oblisk as Long term trader alt.
However what gives Amarr the edge is it's almost the best in everything apart from Cargo capcity.
Almost the fastest, Almost jumps into Warp the quickest, Almost the largest, Almost the longest time to kill a Freighter.

Which is why Amarr makes the best Trader Alts.

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Originally by: Mr LaForge

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Is it true that using an Ibis to move pieces of tritanium is the new 'in' thing?

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Originally by: Tutskii

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Wait werent at tempests and apocs the gank weapon of choice?

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Originally by: SencneS

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Originally by: Tutskii

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Wait werent at tempests and apocs the gank weapon of choice?

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I guess if your fleet is large enough you could use Ibises and Civilian cannon too. I chose Drones to see which one would last longer because it's easier to calculate. Since we're comparing which freighter will last longer, doesn't matter what damage medium is used, when comparing that damage medium to all other Freighters the results will be roughly the same.

Apart from Providence and Oblisk, the others have the same resists. The lowest of them all being Explosive. Providence has the highest Explosive resist on it's Armor which is the largest amount. The issue is not so much the armor and shields but the structure.

Oblisk has 7,500 more HP on it's structure over the Providence. Providence has only 1,500 more Armor HP. Unfortunately the Providence's 10% more resists on Armor for Explosive doesn't narrow that gap on the 7,500 HP on structure at 0% resists. The other Freighters have less Armor and Structure then both Prov and Oblisk. While the Providence has the lowest amount of shields, every freighter has the same resists. The difference is the sheer amount of Armor increase in the providence compensates for it's lack of shielding and then some, but it's still not enough to overcome the 7,500 HP the Oblisk has on structure.

So considering all of that, it doesn't really matter which ship you use or which weapon you attack with, when comparing that attack configuration on all Freighters, the order will always be Oblisk, Providence, Charon, Fenrir in terms of lastability. Even if you focused weapons to kill a specific freighter like Tempist with Explosive Shells.

It matters not how it dies, the result is the same, the Oblisk has a few second longer when under attack.

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Originally by: Uriel Winston

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how much is that in rifters?

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Originally by: Tau Cabalander

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Originally by: Tom Gerard

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I have a lways dreamed about high risk marketing and with my PVE income I finally have the collateral to deal.

I will be plexing the new account for twelve months and ideally being profitable by that point. First issue is which race is best for this path?

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All races start with the exact same skills, except for racial frigate and racial turret. For this reason it is typically recommend that people choose the character they like the looks of most.

Starting Skills
Electronics 3 (8,000)
Engineering 3 (8,000)
Shield Operation 2 (1,415)
Gunnery 2 (1,415)
Small <Racial> Turret 3 (8,000)
Mining 2 (1,415)
Mechanic 2 (1,415)
Navigation 3 (8,000)
Science 3 (8,000)
Spaceship Command 3 (8,000)
<Racial> Frigate 2 (2,829)

Total = 56,489 skill points

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