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DalamarS
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Posted - 2003.07.01 16:20:00 -
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You are protecting thieves and pirates! During a legitimate mining operation yesterday theives came in and began stealing our ore in the midst of it being loaded for transport back to our refining facility. In an effort to defend our gains, and over the taunts and insults being thrown on the local com channel, we locked on to the theives vessel to warn them away. They persisted in their activities and the taunts grew louder and more insulting. Our ships opened fire and immediately the CONCORD police warped in and without even asking what was going on opened fire on us! US! The ones defending what was theirs! This is outrageous! I will be complaining to the Caldari government about this insult to honest business operations! Emerald Sky will not sit idle and allow CONCORD's blatent misuse of their authority to continue!
Edited by: DalamarS on 01/07/2003 16:20:41
CEO
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Mushroom
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Posted - 2003.07.01 17:04:00 -
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Well... You stardet the fire.. They are concord so they kill the ones who start the fighting
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.07.01 21:11:00 -
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Get used to it. CONCORD and station security systems have the mentality of kindergarten teachers. "I don't care who did what, i saw YOU!"
Station guns defend outlaws and scum fleeing from combat, CONCORD protects a dirtbag's right to steal - face it folks; the real story arc in EvE is: the government is corrupt! Down with CONCORD! 2, 4, 6, 8, organize to smash the state! iViva la revolucion! Damn the Antimatter Torpedos and full steam ahead! Piece d'Resistance! um... so there!
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |
Maarek Steele
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Posted - 2003.07.02 03:55:00 -
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You cried for stricter penalties, you got em.
-=Maarek Steele=-
Have gun, will travel. |
Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.07.02 08:11:00 -
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When you eject something from your cargo, it's no longer yours. If you do still claim the ejected items, you had better bring a large gun or an industrial with a large hold.
Oon a side-note, I find that the screams of the dying are most effective to deter would-be thieves. Put a few slaves in the container. As they get buried in raw ore, their lamenting should suffice..
Edited by: Discorporation on 02/07/2003 08:12:08
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Faisal Khan
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Posted - 2003.07.02 12:10:00 -
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Aye, I totally agree.
The CONCORD are a corrupted body serving only to protect the greedy merchants dominating the economies of worlds. Their existance is nothing less than an occupation.
Down with the CONCORD! Matarians unite! Long live the Rebellion!
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Crepiscule
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Posted - 2003.07.02 21:16:00 -
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My sources within Concord tell me that there are a great many changes coming.
It seems the puppet masters are becoming bolder and seek to place gunnery around their precious jumpgates.
Once again they show that millions can remain enslaved yet interrupt trade and they react with force.
We will fight you till our last breath. We will attack your boarders till you rot from the inside out on your corrupted governing bodies.
You can try to sweep us into non empire space but we will not let you forget us.us.
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Fritz Ionar
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Posted - 2003.07.03 06:36:00 -
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I have to agrea that CONCORD seems to suffer from serious corruption. I have my self witnessed, on several ocations, CONCORD police officers stand idly by while known pirates of the Angel cartel attack peacful miners.
I hope and pray that not ALL officers are corrupt and that there is still hope for improvments.
Edited by: Fritz Ionar on 03/07/2003 06:39:59
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The services YOU need, WE provide! |
Darodem
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Posted - 2003.07.03 07:51:00 -
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Rebels?! You Red Corsairs are nothing but disrespectful murderers, weakening the Minmatar and killing your brothers. |
Chagidiel
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Posted - 2003.07.03 08:12:00 -
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Agreed. What I have seen so far, clearly shows that the Red Corsairs is in no place to talk about corruption.
The filthy pirates are merciless attacking the very people they claim they are here to set free.
It is indeed a sad day, when I have to count on one such corrupt organisation as CONCORD to protect myself from my brethrens.
Chagidiel
Spokesman
Chief of Affairs
Cybertronic Corporation
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Bajastor
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Posted - 2003.07.04 17:37:00 -
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Dear Dalamar
I believe that the basic piloting courses at the academies around the world really need to increase the focus on "maritime" law and procedure.
Whilst your ship and it's contents are protected by the laws of the racial empires and by Concord, space junk is not.
It is thus so that once jettisoned, cargo is considered to have been abandoned by it's owner and exists in the unclaimable void that is space. From there it is free for everyone to grab without legal implications.
Miners should familiarise themselves with how the law works, and instead of constantly complaining, modify their behaviour and working methods to allow the law to be their ally.
Regards,
Lucan Bajastor
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Darodem
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Posted - 2003.07.05 02:27:00 -
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You can talk about law all you want. If I put my wallet on the ground and you come pick it up without my permission I get to beat your a$#. Unfortunately the concord robots don't see it that way. |
Jade Aisoku
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Posted - 2003.07.05 09:06:00 -
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I totaly agree with you, dear DalamarS of the Emerald Sky Ltd.
Just this morning I was on my way to get cargo at a station nearby Amsen, and at a jumpgate I was underfire by a Guristas Arrogator. My ship wasnt equipt with a cannon to fire back, but beeing in a 0.8 security system and having 6!! CONCORD police ship just 8000 meters away from me, I thought I was safe. But the CONCORD police ships were doing nothing, while my shield was dropping.
I found myself lucky to get to the gate in the nick of time before my shield was completely gone and jump to the next system.
I will make an official complain about this at the first CONCORD station I come across.
Yours truly,
Jade Aisoku
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MiningLlama
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Posted - 2003.07.05 20:59:00 -
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Im afraid your words will be waisted on the concord scum, thay are nothing but puppets to the pirates, thay will stand by and let an honest trader get blown to bits "for the right price".
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Daemun Khanid
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Posted - 2003.07.06 10:26:00 -
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"You can talk about law all you want. If I put my wallet on the ground and you come pick it up without my permission I get to beat your a$#. Unfortunately the concord robots don't see it that way."
If I were to take that wallet and you proceeded to Beat My ??? i would most certainly sue you for assault and in most any court I would win. And win much more than you had in your wallet. Fact is if someone were to trip over your coffee table and break their wrist stealing your Holo-projector from your living room they could probably successfully sue you for the incident on your property. If you leave your wallet in a store can you beat up the person who finds it? I think not. Theft does not constitute agression in most courts of law. Just my 2 cents.
VADM. Daemun of Khanid |
Darodem
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Posted - 2003.07.06 14:48:00 -
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You know even in salvage law you need to establish that the item you are claiming DOES NOT BELONG TO SOMEONE! If you take my minerals, usually only about 28000 isk worth of kernite I will send you a bill. If you don't pay up I will hunt you down and harrass you. At the very least you will be firing off 28000 in missiles, you could lose your ship. It is the equivalent of having a good lawyer.
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Damaclese
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Posted - 2003.07.08 06:44:00 -
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thayts why when dealing with the criminal element a smile on your lips and a hole in their head is the best approach
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Edward Preble
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Posted - 2003.07.09 04:05:00 -
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I believe it must be noted that CONCORD exists to serve one function: maintaining the peace. Was it not constructed because of the great wars that nearly tore the empires apart? As a result, every CONCORD commander has the responsibility to halt any unauthorized hostilities in their system.
To extend on someone's previous metaphor, if you left a pile of unrefined rocks in the middle of a station market, and someone helped themself to some, station authorities would not take it lightly if you shot them.
CONCORD does not have the time or manpower to investigate each legal matter in detail--that is a matter to take up with your local magistrate (admittedly incredibly overlogged). They are there to do everything they can to prevent violence, so they need to have a simple policy their captains can enforce, with clear rules of engagement. |
Slabour
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Posted - 2003.07.09 20:28:00 -
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I agree with u completely
i feel taht something should be done about concord. Possilbly ina new patch u could call the police for a reason, so instead of shooting u could call the police select a problem from a list and they deal with it!
I almos had my ship distroyed once, just warp scrambaling a thief!! If CCP read this plz do something!!
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Klydor
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Posted - 2003.07.12 11:52:00 -
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Who are CCP and what is this strange "patch" you refer to? Is this some form of pirate code?
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Lord Panther
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Posted - 2003.07.20 05:32:00 -
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One has to wonder what the theives give as inducements to the so called Police. They sit by and watch pirates kill innocent peace loving miners. They stand by and watch theives steal hard won ore.
It would be easy for Concord to allow us to mark our containers so that any theft could result in justifiable podding of the interlopers. But then that would mean an end to the bribes that make them rich and allow them to buy doughnuts at planetary way stations.
May the gods of Amar put them all in dung heap for 1,000 years and infest their children with camel flies for the next 1,000 generations
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Trill Asam
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Posted - 2003.07.20 11:16:00 -
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It is true that concord are the worst police force around, as a bounty hunter i have to personnaly take matters into my own hands. True the polic now have battleships, but i have never seen the police protecting the innocent, something needs to be done about it.
Also, do the navy or army or whatever always have to be restricted to high security systems, can't we se them embarking on missions to aid the people who get attacked by player pirates in low security systems.
And on another note, why have sentry guns around stargates with pirates. The pirates shoot at you you shoot at them, but the sentry guns don't shoot the pirates, and they're wanted !
CCP, something needs to be done about the police force.
Edited by: Trill Asam on 20/07/2003 11:16:53
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Makkar
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Posted - 2003.07.20 17:13:00 -
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Yo Trill... Wakey wakey! Did it ever occur to you that sectors of space are high security because of the naval presence, and not vice versa?
Lay off the narcs, man, they'll rot your brain.
As for sentry guns not firing on wanted criminals, I'd imagine you'd be pretty fragged off if you were a bounty hunter, and some sentry gun got the last shot in and stole your prize.
Yeah, the CONCORD boys do some pretty weird stuff, but until they settle down and decide to be cops rather than gawking sightseers, how about you get some mates to watch your back? Or if you've not got mates, pay someone?
I'm sure there are plenty of frag-happy gunbunnies out there that would jump at the chance to escort you through those scary 0.5 sectors.
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