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NickyYo
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Posted - 2011.05.03 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: NickyYo on 03/05/2011 12:50:38
A couple of months ago i could dual account easy with no lag, my comp is amd quad core 4g memory and a great graphics card.
I thought i would reactivate my alt for pvp, and guess what?
It lagged like sh*t.
It never used to do this what the hell have you guys done to the game?
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Cannibal Kane
Four Little Ponies Of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2011.05.03 12:49:00 -
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I can report that Duel boxing works without any lag or issues. Even on my wireless connection.
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Herrring
Amarr
National Quality Breaker
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Posted - 2011.05.03 12:53:00 -
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I dual box on a laptop + 3g tethered connection.
And while the 3g connection gets unstable at times, it usually works fine.
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Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.05.03 12:54:00 -
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Confirming that complaining in GD about a problem that's specific to your PC is the best way to get it fixed.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.05.03 13:04:00 -
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It's all part of CCP's pursuit of :excellence:
Just wait till standing in quarters adds even more memory demand from your clients.
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Cathy Drall
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.05.03 13:21:00 -
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 Originally by: NickyYo
A couple of months ago i could dual account easy with no lag, my comp is amd quad core 4g memory and a great graphics card.
I thought i would reactivate my alt for pvp, and guess what?
It lagged like sh*t.
It never used to do this what the hell have you guys done to the game?
I have a bit the same thing, I could run 2-3 clients easily and now it crashes a lot when I want to run two. Fortunately I'm not the owner of a mining fleet but it's definitely a lot harder now.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.05.03 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 03/05/2011 13:21:17
I haven't noticed any change and haven't heard anyone else complaining, so it might just be your PC.
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Tyburn Stannis
Caldari
Xenon Salvage Inc.
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Posted - 2011.05.03 13:22:00 -
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A couple of months ago i could dual account easy with a no lag, my comp is some random spec about three years old.
I thought i would make a third alt for pvp, and guess what?
It lags no more than before.
If it never used to do this what the hell have you done to your PC?
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NickyYo
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Posted - 2011.05.03 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Tyburn Stannis
A couple of months ago i could dual account easy with a no lag, my comp is some random spec about three years old.
I thought i would make a third alt for pvp, and guess what?
It lags no more than before.
If it never used to do this what the hell have you done to your PC?
Your a funny guy... you should do stand up comedy!
And correction its two accounts not three, and nothing has changed on my comp no background promgrams running etc.
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Tyburn Stannis
Caldari
Xenon Salvage Inc.
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Posted - 2011.05.03 13:30:00 -
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No, I definitely have three accounts. See that's why the sentence reads "I" instead of "you"... 
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Killerhound
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.05.03 13:34:00 -
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There are some things you might consider:
The new client has a very neat functionality: Fixed Window.
Kinda Fullscreen mode without Fullscreen :) but well back to the topic, I suggest you test your settings with the framerate limitation.
This can be set at the advanced configuration in your graphics settings. If you set it to once, you have limited the FPS to 60 if youset it to 2x 120 well you see how it works. If you set it to free then it will drop the FPS if you dont have the window focussed.
Try to use fixed window with one client and fixed amount of FPS and second without limit and windowed mode.
Beside maybe clearing cache helps, and reducing graphics overall settings like HDR oder Shading.
Good Luck
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.05.03 13:39:00 -
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Are you capable of understanding and spotting the difference between local machine performance issues, network lag and server-side lag ?
The following assumes you are capable of this type of discrimination.
So... WHICH ONE of those three are you experiencing ?
If it's local machine performance issues (the most likely case, since you were so insistent in touting your machine's specs), while it is possible that it's not your fault in any way, the best odds are that SOMETHING is wrong with your machine... either a hardware problem, some conflicting drivers, an OS glitch, some settings you tweaked since last time, options you enabled or disabled, rendering settings you altered either in-game or in the graphics drivers, who knows. Screaming at CCP won't fix it, and it's not exactly that much CCP's problem.
If it's network lag, that's your ISP's fault, or CCP's ISP's fault, or any in between.
There would be a higher than normal chance of disconnects if that was the case, but since you didn't complain about that, we'll be safe to assume that's not it.
If it's sever-side lag, well, that just happens every now and then, and depends on system you're in.
Yes, this is the only case where you can actually blame CCP to some extent.
But your hardware has absolutely nothing to do with it, if the lag is server side, everything from the crappiest computer able to run EVE up to the most awesome computer money could buy would still lag.
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Mark Hamill
Amarr
Galactic Waste Management
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Posted - 2011.05.03 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: NickyYo
Edited by: NickyYo on 03/05/2011 12:50:38
A couple of months ago i could dual account easy with no lag, my comp is amd quad core 4g memory and a great graphics card.
I thought i would reactivate my alt for pvp, and guess what?
It lagged like sh*t.
It never used to do this what the hell have you guys done to the game?
Could be your machonet cache. Hit ESC in your client, go to 'reset settings' click on 'clear all cache files.' If this works, then it's your cache getting overloaded. My fix to this problem was EVE Cache Monitor
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NickyYo
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Posted - 2011.05.03 14:01:00 -
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Thanks for the advise, il check this out later and will post back if it solves the problem.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.05.03 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: NickyYo
Thanks for the advise, il check this out later and will post back if it solves the problem.
If you have noticed a significant performance decrease/instability and suspect that it is caused by changes made to EVE/can't identify other sources for it, you should propably report it anyway. The fact some aren't affected isn't going to matter if your personal gameplay is going down the crapper and even if it isn't related to EVE it won't do any harm to report the issues you are having.
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Ravenzfire
Caldari
Valhalla Naval Corp
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Posted - 2011.05.03 14:19:00 -
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Another thing to take a look at:
Do you have Anti-Aliasing turned on? When I have two clients running and anti-aliasing is turned on at any setting then it lags both clients to an unplayable level. Turn that off and both clients run perfectly fine.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.03 16:16:00 -
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It's not just you OP.
I can confirm via everyone in my corp that there is now multi-client lag.
I can also confirm that the server will sometimes lag and drop all but 1 connection, also verified by corpies.
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Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.05.03 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Mashie Saldana on 03/05/2011 16:32:39
Originally by: Ravenzfire
Another thing to take a look at:
Do you have Anti-Aliasing turned on? When I have two clients running and anti-aliasing is turned on at any setting then it lags both clients to an unplayable level. Turn that off and both clients run perfectly fine.
This and the fix is to get a graphics card with more effective VRAM.
Run GPU-Z and you will see if you run out of VRAM.
I had the same issue before I upgraded to a 3GB card. Now I can run 4 clients at 1920x1500 with 16x AA without grinding to a halt if needed (I normally run 3 so starting a 4th by accident won't get me podded).
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Lykouleon
Bad Kitty Inc.
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Posted - 2011.05.03 16:33:00 -
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I run 3 accounts at some points with AA turned on. No issues.
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Centis Adjani
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Posted - 2011.05.03 17:43:00 -
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Do you run Windows 7?
Microsoft changed a behavior of the TCP/IP driver with W7-Service Pack 1.
The concurrent TCP/IP-Connections to the same server are limited now to only 10.
May be this will produce some lag now if you open multiple EVE Windows to the one EVE-Server.
Tip from Internet how to change it back to the previous functionality:
Open Registry-Editor (Regedit.Exe).
Maneuver to Key
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\Tcpip\Parameters
Create a DWORD entry named TcpNumConnections.
Open the new entry, switch to decimal and set 16777214.
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LHA1 Tarawa
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Posted - 2011.05.03 20:26:00 -
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On my old PC, my performance went to crud after a CCP patch. 70% CPU on one client and way pegged with 2.
I bought a new computer. WAY better performance.... I could run 3 clients with 70% CPU usage.
Then I installed McAfee and activated the real time scanner. Back to being pegged. Hmmmmm... Yeah, I'd installed that on the old PC about the time performance went to crud.
Perhaps the issue is your computer and not the CCP client.
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Sumyoung Ho
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Posted - 2011.05.03 21:31:00 -
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Client performance has dropped significantly over the last few expansions, I used to be able to run 4 clients with minimal loss of framerate in complex areas, now I get a slideshow with only 2 clients running  |
Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.05.03 23:33:00 -
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Carbon engine sucks.
Classic graphics rocks.
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FatRaps
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Posted - 2011.05.04 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Are you capable of understanding and spotting the difference between local machine performance issues, network lag and server-side lag ?
The following assumes you are capable of this type of discrimination.
So... WHICH ONE of those three are you experiencing ?
If it's local machine performance issues (the most likely case, since you were so insistent in touting your machine's specs), while it is possible that it's not your fault in any way, the best odds are that SOMETHING is wrong with your machine... either a hardware problem, some conflicting drivers, an OS glitch, some settings you tweaked since last time, options you enabled or disabled, rendering settings you altered either in-game or in the graphics drivers, who knows. Screaming at CCP won't fix it, and it's not exactly that much CCP's problem.
If it's network lag, that's your ISP's fault, or CCP's ISP's fault, or any in between.
There would be a higher than normal chance of disconnects if that was the case, but since you didn't complain about that, we'll be safe to assume that's not it.
If it's sever-side lag, well, that just happens every now and then, and depends on system you're in.
Yes, this is the only case where you can actually blame CCP to some extent.
But your hardware has absolutely nothing to do with it, if the lag is server side, everything from the crappiest computer able to run EVE up to the most awesome computer money could buy would still lag.
What a tosser
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
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Posted - 2011.05.04 00:10:00 -
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Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 04/05/2011 00:10:07
Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Carbon engine sucks.
Classic graphics rocks.
I really miss all the antenna on the Badger series of ships. They all look so boring now. They also used to have a texture that made them look like ships that have been in space for years hauling. Now they look like plastic ships fresh out of the "tree".
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Centis Adjani
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Posted - 2011.05.04 00:34:00 -
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I made some tests with two EVE clients simultanuos open.
To compare different settings.
Using Windows 7 64Bit with modern Hardware (Quadcore, 12 GB RAM, etc.)
There was a significant difference to see. Especially in warp.
Slowest EVE: "Fixed Window" graphics setting and Windows-Explorer task (desktop, task bar) running.
Registered lags by warping from one gate to another.
Better EVE: Fullscreen and windows explorer running.
No lags anymore by warping.
But switching between EVE windows with ALT-TAB is no fun in Fullscreen. Better in Fixed Window.
Then I opened task manager. Killed the "explorer.exe" process (right mouseclick).
Fastest EVE: Without Windows-Explorer running (no desktop, no task bar).
Even in Fixed Window mode the lags in warp were gone.
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zebbchi
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Posted - 2011.05.04 13:17:00 -
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This is also happening to me. In fact, the client locks, crashes and twice now has lost all local configuration information.
This happens when you try to run two clients. It is not a PC issue; this computer ran fine for the past 9 months with two Eve clients simultaneously.
CCP please fix this!
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Sirion Fujiwara
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Posted - 2011.05.04 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
It's not just you OP.
I can confirm via everyone in my corp that there is now multi-client lag.
I can also confirm that the server will sometimes lag and drop all but 1 connection, also verified by corpies.
I have both of these issues lately as well.
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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.05.04 14:10:00 -
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Not just multi client users are affected. My memory footprint has risen by about 400Mb over the last 6months or so. I don't use this machine for anything other than eve, nothing else has been installed since eve was about a year ago. Now under win7 I'm hitting 1700mb usage with nothing else running.
I'm all for pushing requirements forward, ditching the old to make progress (like the SM3 thing), but in exchange for this memory usage (and heavy swapfile lameness due to being a 2gb machine) i have gained nothing. No better looking ship models, no new effects, no extra levels of detail or more objects in space...
I'm aware i could do with an upgrade... it's coming soon(tm). Just gets me that requirements go up for no apparent reason.
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zebbchi
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Posted - 2011.05.04 14:21:00 -
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Also, one additional symptom: conducting PI in planet mode (with just one Eve client open) is considerably slower. Also, opening planet mode is a lot slower. All of this on a fairly fancy computer (dual nvidia GTX 295 in sli mode, intel core i7 975 extreme clocked to 3.99ghz, etc. etc.)
There is definitely something wrong with the Eve client and it has happened in the past couple of days.
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