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Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
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Posted - 2011.05.06 03:45:00 -
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Hi
I have been away for a whole month, although it felt like six years, funny how that is, I was (slightly) tempted to ask the following in a more comical way but I am no longer part of the church of trollism, or at least not here.
Anyway I am curious about certain 0.0 events and couldnĘt think of a better title so I used NC bot down one for the sake of past amusements. I have been looking at 0.0 etc and seeing how things are changing (slowly) and was wondering about the following things.
1. What is DRFs endgame? Is it to kill NC, kill NC / DC or simply claim Geminate?
2. What do Atlas + Co have planned for Fountain (assuming something isnĘt already happening)?
3. I havenĘt seen any major killboard activity from DC relating to this DRF/NC war, what are they up to?
4. How many times has EN24 been DDoS within the past month?
5. What actually happened to SHC?
6. How many supercaps have been lost in this NC / DRF war so far?
7. How many supercaps have been aborted in the NC / DRF war?
8. Where are the new forums?
9. What are ex IT corps (minus the ones part of the NC war) doing?
10. Did CCP Grayscales truesec ratting changes go ahead?
11. Is everything still laggy as hell in 0.0?
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Foxtrot986
Amarr
Ixion Defence Systems
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.05.06 04:37:00 -
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1. What is DRFs endgame? Is it to kill NC, kill NC / DC or simply claim Geminate?
- To bot unimaginable amounts of isk and to earn a RL income from playing Eve.
2. What do Atlas + Co have planned for Fountain (assuming something isnĘt already happening)?
- Atlas has already conquered fountain and forced the local residents into servitude. We hope to one day rise up against their tyranny and fight for our right to be upgraded to "renter" status. In addition, the entire NC has been driven from the face of Eve so completely and utterly that most of the former players have already quit eve. The Russians are getting together as I write this to figure out how to optimize the various sections of space for maximum botting efficiency. Next they plan to jump in supercapital fleets to empire to defeat the forces of concord and take hi sec once and for all.
3. I havenĘt seen any major killboard activity from DC relating to this DRF/NC war, what are they up to?
- They're that bad at eve. Really. The most fail coalition in the history of the game. You may want to check their "losses" section, not kills.
4. How many times has EN24 been DDoS within the past month?
- It might be easier to answer if you were to ask how many times has EN24 NOT been DDoS within the past month. The answer to that question would be zero.
5. What actually happened to SHC?
- Shack? Super Heterodyne Calibrator? Servile Hermaphroditic Carney? I'm getting close, right?
6. How many supercaps have been lost in this NC / DRF war so far?
- See #4.
7. How many supercaps have been aborted in the NC / DRF war?
- Three. And a third.
8. Where are the new forums?
- What? Oh yeah. Heh. Let's just say CCP creates new forums, some select individuals inform CCP that the new forums have serious security flaws, CCP ignores the warnings and releases the forums anyway, select individuals take measures to prove that there are security flaws, CCP is embarrassed and pulls out the banhammer to save face, and suddenly the new forums disappear, never to be seen or heard from again.
9. What are ex IT corps (minus the ones part of the NC war) doing?
- Some have disbanded, others have joined Raiden.. A few tried desperately to hang on to their elitist alliance remnants and failed.
10. Did CCP Grayscales truesec ratting changes go ahead?
- Yes.   Another classic case of completely ignore the player base and make drastic changes anyway. :dealwithit:
11. Is everything still laggy as hell in 0.0?
- No comment. 
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Capricorn 0ne
Caldari
Broski Federation
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.05.06 04:46:00 -
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Hello allow me to answer these questions.
1. The DRF Endgame is total control of the entire 0.0 northern hemisphere. They will drop their drone regions once they have the tech moons under their control and doll the drone regions out to the former IT A TEAM
2.Drakes. Lots of Drakes.
3. We are currently fighting a great civil war or as some are calling it, "Eternal Riferdome Part Deux: The awakening: Sequel to the first time this happened"
4. To many to count. Initial reports were that the DRF was behind it. Then it was China. Then it was tracked down to a IP in Canada. Then they realized "good luck Im behind 7 proxies"
5. Nothing, what you think you heard was only a rumor.
6. Eh a few. I heard that no matter how many are destroyed in gem/vale their will still be well over 9000 in game.
7. 22
8. The new forums were actually station in vale and gem and were caught in the crossfire between PL/DRF/ND/AOL 4.0-sorry I mean Tri4.0
9. Holding down the Jita undock with SNOT SNOT
10. Massive reports of the NCP pirates pulling out of many regions. And many tears streaming over it.
11. No. They actually fixed that before they added walking in stations. In a letter from CCP they stated "We want to provide the best possible player experience, not just aesthetics to make it look pretty. We want a functional game that the player can pick up and get in large battles from day one!"
Welcome back
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StuRyan
Caldari
Executive Intervention
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.05.06 10:34:00 -
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Edited by: StuRyan on 06/05/2011 10:35:33
 Originally by: Kalle Demos
Hi
10. Did CCP Grayscales truesec ratting changes go ahead?
Yes and so much so that on average there are approx. 13K less accounts signing into eve. (I have been basing that on 60K accounts active pre-Nerf and lately "number of people online" doesnt touch close to 50k.
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Headerman
Minmatar
Metanoia.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.05.06 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos
although it felt like six years
I wish it was 6 years, but alas.
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Banlish
Gallente
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.05.06 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos
Hi
More words here)
Using your method of one month feeling like a year, I think I've been in and out of EVE for about a cumulative 50 years. Enjoy the red lettering for ease of reading.
Originally by: Kalle Demos
1. What is DRFs endgame? Is it to kill NC, kill NC / DC or simply claim Geminate?
Since everyone and anyone can obviously just ask and have the DRF tell them their sekret plans (they can't) people have to assume. One good 'Assumption' at the moment is since tech is so horribly and incredibly unbalanced that the time of sitting farming angels and drones has driven the DRF insane and they are going to indeed 'take the north' to get their hands on it. Since CCP can't figure out that their moon problem is even worse then old school dyspo/prom and more likely think their EPIC(read also craptacular) Sec nerf is the reason for this invasion. Despite tons of evidence to the opposite.
With Raiden., PL, NC. and the DRF combined proving a big problem for the NC there is a certain fear going through the NC, mostly at the uninformed grunt level. The top however, well they knew/know different and have a much longer end game in play.
We'll see how it goes, but I can say from experience that this is the most dangerous invasion the NC has ever faced.
Originally by: Kalle Demos
2. What do Atlas + Co have planned for Fountain (assuming something isnĘt already happening)?
Our mighty 850 pilots have tons planned for Fountain. We might
1. Go visiting
2. Bring them corpses to unwrap in the form of ships
3. Tech 2 delivery service (some repairs required)
4. (used)Ammo delivery service
Atlas. isn't Atlas of old, the name is the ONLY similar thing we have. There was a certain anger with certain people with how Atlas collapsed at the end. Only 2 corps are from original Atlas, it's a nice thought to think we're the super power we were, we aren't however. Maybe one day we will again, who knows.
Originally by: Kalle Demos
3. I havenĘt seen any major killboard activity from DC relating to this DRF/NC war, what are they up to?
World of Tanks, LOL, HON. also Interpid Cross lulz.
Originally by: Kalle Demos
4. How many times has EN24 been DDoS within the past month?
Over 9,000!!!!!!
Originally by: Kalle Demos
5. What actually happened to SHC?
It died. Go to Kug
Originally by: Kalle Demos
6. How many supercaps have been lost in this NC / DRF war so far?
A lot.
Originally by: Kalle Demos
7. How many supercaps have been aborted in the NC / DRF war?
Up north? Not many. In the south, about a dozen give or take.
Originally by: Kalle Demos
8. Where are the new forums?
Online.
Originally by: Kalle Demos
9. What are ex IT corps (minus the ones part of the NC war) doing?
Dark Rising saw something early and evaced to low sec early, reorganization and relaxing are terms I've heard from the people that know some of them.
Finfleet, X13, Nex, and Tormentum all joined Raiden wholly, Black Nova corp apparently disbanded and joined Finfleet and X13. DICE went to NC. which wasn't too surprising considering the working relationship in the past. Executives reformed Executive Outcomes and I *think* have Anzac as well in stain at the moment figuring out which way to go in this conflict. STK Scientific is apparently becoming a supporting corp to MVN (unless I was trolled) and becoming more of a holding corp, not the fate I wanted to see for such an old corp. RKK and BestPath joined Manny, all are in the South atm. Finally Evolution stayed to the end and joined Init. in the last days.
Last 2 pieces in continued post.
Originally by: Kalle Demos
10. Did CCP Grayscales truesec ratting changes go ahead?
Originally by: Kalle Demos
11. Is everything still laggy as hell in 0.0?
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Banlish
Gallente
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.05.06 16:20:00 -
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Last 2 pieces in continued post.
Originally by: Kalle Demos
10. Did CCP Grayscales truesec ratting changes go ahead?
Yes, and the result has been exactly the OPPOSITE of what CCP's stated intention of what they wanted make 0.0 to be with the sov changes a while back. Anything under -0.50 to -0.01 is quite literally useless, some argue that anything under -0.75 is useless. Upgrading systems to spawn anoms was worth it for many small alliances and they made a go of living in 0.0, it was hard but they could actually make a living at it.
With the changes CCP still doesn't understand that it is actually easier to run a lvl 4 on a non-corped alt and pvp in 0.0 compared to living in 0.0 now. Despite 114 pages of replies telling them almost 99% NEGATIVE replies CCP continues to ignore the player base. Unless a few coalitions get together and start a determined posting campaign CCP will leave the changes as is, it's doubtful people will do so at this point so CCP's short sighted changes will probably survive. The amount of people using their empire alts to run lvl 4's has sky rocketed, I see it in sales in the mission hubs going up a good deal since.
The amount of ratting in anything that is considered 'worthless' has dropped dramatically according to DotLan. Systems that used to have 2k to 4k rats killed per day are now showing 0 to 100 per day. CCP believes that this will spur conflict, instead the same old alliances that have held the same 'core systems' for quite literally years have shrugged and said 'same old same old, whatever' while the smaller alliances have largely sent their members back to empire lvl 4s and pirate missions for easier rewards. The simple matter that many of us don't want or can't play EVE for more then 3 hours per day hasn't seemed to sink in yet. It's a mistake but most old bitter vets (like me) haven't used 0.0 to make isk since 2007 anyway, some of us do feel bad for the new guys who haven't figured out that empire can make you more with almost 0 risk.
Originally by: Kalle Demos
11. Is everything still laggy as hell in 0.0?
Depends, if you get a mod informed of a big battle things aren't bad. If you don't and you have over 300 to 400 in system things can get bad. Small gang roaming is fine, ratting is usually fine and being thrown off randomly happens maybe 1% of the time from what people tell me.
/SemiSrs post.
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knobber Jobbler
Caldari
Executive Intervention
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.05.06 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Banlish
[red] Yes, and the result has been exactly the OPPOSITE of what CCP's stated intention of what they wanted make 0.0 to be with the sov changes a while back.
I guess its time to say "We told you so"! to Heir Greyscale.
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knobber Jobbler
Caldari
Executive Intervention
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.05.06 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos
H
1. What is DRFs endgame? Is it to kill NC, kill NC / DC or simply claim Geminate?
Russian billionaire to control EVE by paying people to drop Sov for them and pay DRF members to play EVE. Oh and RMT the balls of EVE.
Not sure why someone would want to do that, its a bit like using an invincibility cheat in a game. Sort of takes the fun out of it.
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Falin Whalen
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.05.06 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: knobber Jobbler
Originally by: Banlish
Yes, and the result has been exactly the OPPOSITE of what CCP's stated intention of what they wanted make 0.0 to be with the sov changes a while back.
I guess its time to say "We told you so"! to Heir Greyscale.
Why? He won't listen, has no idea how 0.0 truly works, and pushes through stupid changes when repeatedly told that that, 'it does not work that way'.
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Berneh
Gallente
Freelance Economics Astrological resources
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2011.05.06 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: StuRyan
Edited by: StuRyan on 06/05/2011 10:35:33
Originally by: Kalle Demos
Hi
10. Did CCP Grayscales truesec ratting changes go ahead?
Yes and so much so that on average there are approx. 13K less accounts signing into eve. (I have been basing that on 60K accounts active pre-Nerf and lately "number of people online" doesnt touch close to 50k.
why dont you stop talking like a **** ?
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Downtime is now extended to 19:00 for patch file verification. This is a very important step that must be done to make sure clients are being corrupted.
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Nostradamous
Caldari
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.05.07 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: Banlish
Words
Get outta here manlish, you have to actually play to comment....Which is why I'm not gonna comment vOv.
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Painpill
Minmatar
Open Space Mining and Resource Extraction
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Posted - 2011.05.07 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos
Hi
I have been away for a whole month, although it felt like six years, funny how that is, I was (slightly) tempted to ask the following in a more comical way but I am no longer part of the church of trollism, or at least not here.
Anyway I am curious about certain 0.0 events and couldnĘt think of a better title so I used NC bot down one for the sake of past amusements. I have been looking at 0.0 etc and seeing how things are changing (slowly) and was wondering about the following things.
1. What is DRFs endgame? Is it to kill NC, kill NC / DC or simply claim Geminate?
2. What do Atlas + Co have planned for Fountain (assuming something isnĘt already happening)?
3. I havenĘt seen any major killboard activity from DC relating to this DRF/NC war, what are they up to?
4. How many times has EN24 been DDoS within the past month?
5. What actually happened to SHC?
6. How many supercaps have been lost in this NC / DRF war so far?
7. How many supercaps have been aborted in the NC / DRF war?
8. Where are the new forums?
9. What are ex IT corps (minus the ones part of the NC war) doing?
10. Did CCP Grayscales truesec ratting changes go ahead?
11. Is everything still laggy as hell in 0.0?
1/10 well 2/10 for trying to rub it in
Kalle you be trolling, we all know it, but your trollism is slipping, man up ffs
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StuRyan
Caldari
Executive Intervention
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.05.07 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Berneh
Originally by: StuRyan
Edited by: StuRyan on 06/05/2011 10:35:33
Originally by: Kalle Demos
Hi
10. Did CCP Grayscales truesec ratting changes go ahead?
Yes and so much so that on average there are approx. 13K less accounts signing into eve. (I have been basing that on 60K accounts active pre-Nerf and lately "number of people online" doesnt touch close to 50k.
why dont you stop talking like a **** ?
WTF? How is that being a c4nt?
WOW - simply can not add to a discussion without some 8 year old adding *words* to flame.
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Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
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Posted - 2011.05.07 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Headerman
Originally by: Kalle Demos
although it felt like six years
I wish it was 6 years, but alas.
Element 115 in Raiden lol, do Raiden not check forums? Does this mean your tongue is no longer in Vuk Lau's arse?
BFF - "Best Friends Forever, or until things get a little tough"
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errorist
Caldari
The Cursed Navy
Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.05.07 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: StuRyan
Originally by: Berneh
Originally by: StuRyan
Edited by: StuRyan on 06/05/2011 10:35:33
Originally by: Kalle Demos
Hi
10. Did CCP Grayscales truesec ratting changes go ahead?
Yes and so much so that on average there are approx. 13K less accounts signing into eve. (I have been basing that on 60K accounts active pre-Nerf and lately "number of people online" doesnt touch close to 50k.
why dont you stop talking like a **** ?
WTF? How is that being a c4nt?
WOW - simply can not add to a discussion without some 8 year old adding *words* to flame.
Cause your full of it ....
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Show me on the 1 year graph where this 13 k online accounts drop happened, and where you got the specific information you have about active accounts as 60 k is about 240k shy of the actual active account number ...
If Somethings hard doing its not worth doing,
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StuRyan
Caldari
Executive Intervention
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.05.07 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: errorist
Cause your full of it ....
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Show me on the 1 year graph where this 13 k online accounts drop happened, and where you got the specific information you have about active accounts as 60 k is about 240k shy of the actual active account number ...
How accurate is that page?
I was talking in the sense that everytime i sign in i check to see how many are already online and i've been watching that number drop, Linkage
Now if that page is accurate then i hold my hand up and apologise for assuming that high heights of 60k signed in to having 45k sign in was a direct relationship with the nerf. one thing i do note is that your graph doesn't show the new PCU record achieved at the end of January 2011.
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errorist
Caldari
The Cursed Navy
Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.05.08 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: StuRyan
Originally by: errorist
Cause your full of it ....
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Show me on the 1 year graph where this 13 k online accounts drop happened, and where you got the specific information you have about active accounts as 60 k is about 240k shy of the actual active account number ...
How accurate is that page?
I was talking in the sense that everytime i sign in i check to see how many are already online and i've been watching that number drop, Linkage
Now if that page is accurate then i hold my hand up and apologise for assuming that high heights of 60k signed in to having 45k sign in was a direct relationship with the nerf. one thing i do note is that your graph doesn't show the new PCU record achieved at the end of January 2011.
That graph is somewhat accurate, No you will have a hard time seeing 1 unit portraited on a graph basing on 365 days of activity(As in im almost sure that the year graph is weekly average activity)
New PSU record is there though, at the statistics at bottom ;)
For what is relevant though, Look at the 3 month graph which is the timeframe we are looking at (Before announcement of anom nerfs till after) and from that all i can see is a rise in activity, Most likely from burned out people returning after the IT/fountain affaire and multiple other big fights going on back when the new PCU record was set ;)
This is probably making to much sence for Caod though ...
If Somethings hard doing its not worth doing,
But get going anyway |
StuRyan
Caldari
Executive Intervention
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.05.08 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: errorist
Originally by: StuRyan
Originally by: errorist
Cause your full of it ....
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Show me on the 1 year graph where this 13 k online accounts drop happened, and where you got the specific information you have about active accounts as 60 k is about 240k shy of the actual active account number ...
How accurate is that page?
I was talking in the sense that everytime i sign in i check to see how many are already online and i've been watching that number drop, Linkage
Now if that page is accurate then i hold my hand up and apologise for assuming that high heights of 60k signed in to having 45k sign in was a direct relationship with the nerf. one thing i do note is that your graph doesn't show the new PCU record achieved at the end of January 2011.
That graph is somewhat accurate, No you will have a hard time seeing 1 unit portraited on a graph basing on 365 days of activity(As in im almost sure that the year graph is weekly average activity)
New PSU record is there though, at the statistics at bottom ;)
For what is relevant though, Look at the 3 month graph which is the timeframe we are looking at (Before announcement of anom nerfs till after) and from that all i can see is a rise in activity, Most likely from burned out people returning after the IT/fountain affaire and multiple other big fights going on back when the new PCU record was set ;)
This is probably making to much sence for Caod though ...
LOL it is too COAD worthy - thanks for the graphs 
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