| Pages: 1 2 :: [one page] |
|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Calmir Zin
   |
Posted - 2011.05.07 17:05:00 -
[1]
Edited by: Calmir Zin on 07/05/2011 17:07:27
Greetings!
I have an *extremely rare* C2 Wormhole for sale: J104820
This system has the following 3 statics:
- Hisec (B274)
- C2 (D382)
- C4 (Y683)
This gives you ready access to hisec for all your shopping and trading requirements, and immediate daily access to both C2 and C4 sites. This rare combo means big ISK and the K-Space markets on your doorstep. Too easy eh? 
I'm not certain what ISK value can be placed on owning a system like this. I do know they are very rare, and people hardly ever give them up.
>>> Sale Rules <<<
- Offers in excess of 1 billion ISK considered
- Sale by 3rd party at my expense (with the trusted Wirox Crotius)
I am likely to take the first reasonable offer, depsite the obvious potential to sell for stupid amounts.
Please make me an offer here or in-game via eve mail to do business.
- Many Thanks -
|
Calmir Zin
|
Posted - 2011.05.08 08:09:00 -
[2]
Still available.
|
Yves Online
|
Posted - 2011.05.08 18:43:00 -
[3]
i can offer 400mil
-----------------------------------------------------
Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.
Abraham Lincoln |
Shrek Thrip
|
Posted - 2011.05.08 18:55:00 -
[4]
please link what wh mapper is showing it containing 3 statics?
staticmapper is only showing a hi sec and c4
|
Planet On
|
Posted - 2011.05.08 19:04:00 -
[5]
an empty class 2 wh with static class 4 or 5 are very easy to find. give it 1 days of probing and you'll find 2 or 3
|
YUMAD BRO
|
Posted - 2011.05.08 19:29:00 -
[6]
not much PI in there either...this is worth maybe 200-300m MAX...good luck nub.
|
Calmir Zin
|
Posted - 2011.05.09 11:29:00 -
[7]
Edited by: Calmir Zin on 09/05/2011 11:29:19
 Originally by: Planet On
an empty class 2 wh with static class 4 or 5 are very easy to find. give it 1 days of probing and you'll find 2 or 3
Hi Planet, there are of course many C2s in wormhole space, but very few with 3 statics, of those few at least 90% will be occupied.
For these reasons, this must therefore be classed as an 'extremely rare' (and indcredibly desirable) wormhole. Instant hisec access, combined with C2 and C4 sites 'on tap' is a very unique set up.
|
Calmir Zin
|
Posted - 2011.05.09 11:32:00 -
[8]
Originally by: YUMAD BRO
not much PI in there either...this is worth maybe 200-300m MAX...good luck nub.
Yumad, you know very little of wormhole real estate if you think this wormhole is only worth 300m max. I would therefore point out that it appears you are in fact 'the noob' 
|
DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf
Amarr
|
Posted - 2011.05.09 12:00:00 -
[9]
Overpricing noob who doesn't know to show his locus sig.
|
KalaaZero
|
Posted - 2011.05.09 12:16:00 -
[10]
Edited by: KalaaZero on 09/05/2011 12:17:34
I see Highsec and C4 Static There is no C2
|
|
|
coolio Audeles
|
Posted - 2011.05.09 12:18:00 -
[11]
it seems YOU do not know much about wormholes, this wormhole does not have 3 statics. it has **** PI aswell..
As stated above worth 200mil max
|
Calmir Zin
|
Posted - 2011.05.09 12:22:00 -
[12]
Edited by: Calmir Zin on 09/05/2011 12:22:45
Originally by: DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf
Overpricing noob who doesn't know to show his locus sig.
DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf, please try to use your eyes to read my post and you will see the locus.
Then I suggest engaging that pea inside your head you call a brain before commenting.
Many Thanks
|
Calmir Zin
|
Posted - 2011.05.09 12:26:00 -
[13]
Originally by: KalaaZero
Edited by: KalaaZero on 09/05/2011 12:17:34
I see Highsec and C4 Static There is no C2
KalaaZero, please also read my post and you will notice I have listed 3 statics. Staticmapper only lists 2 of those. For those who do not know, staticmapper is a wonderful resource but it does have many ommisions and inaccuracies.
|
Calmir Zin
|
Posted - 2011.05.09 12:31:00 -
[14]
Originally by: coolio Audeles
it seems YOU do not know much about wormholes, this wormhole does not have 3 statics. it has **** PI aswell..
As stated above worth 200mil max
Audeles, this wormhole does have 3 statics (as previously stated repeatedly if you could read). It does not have PI to make all POS fuel. I have not stated that it does. What you do have is a hisec 24/7, so hauling a little extra with the usual Liquid Ozone, Heavy Water and Isotopes is no biggy.
Please let me point out guys that what you 'think' this wormhole is worth is of no consequence. The wormhole will sell comfortably for the price listed. Period.
|
DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf
Amarr
|
Posted - 2011.05.09 12:50:00 -
[15]
Edited by: DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf on 09/05/2011 12:52:24
Edited by: DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf on 09/05/2011 12:50:54
Edited by: DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf on 09/05/2011 12:50:27
http://eveeye.com/ips.asp?opt=48NVM&system=J104820 static mapper and eveeye wrong? omg!!! it is a conspiracy!
Also to anyone considering of getting scammed this badly I will say this much: far more productive wormhole systems go for 200-300 mil, this particular "seller" has a bad habit of overpricing every system he tries to sell.
|
Calmir Zin
|
Posted - 2011.05.09 13:37:00 -
[16]
Edited by: Calmir Zin on 09/05/2011 13:39:10
Edited by: Calmir Zin on 09/05/2011 13:38:16
Edited by: Calmir Zin on 09/05/2011 13:37:48
Originally by: DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf
Edited by: DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf on 09/05/2011 12:52:24
Edited by: DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf on 09/05/2011 12:50:54
Edited by: DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf on 09/05/2011 12:50:27
http://eveeye.com/ips.asp?opt=48NVM&system=J104820 static mapper and eveeye wrong? omg!!! it is a conspiracy!
Also to anyone considering of getting scammed this badly I will say this much: far more productive wormhole systems go for 200-300 mil, this particular "seller" has a bad habit of overpricing every system he tries to sell.
Dark, do you have nothing better to do than post negative and absurd spam here?
1). I have scanned the system in question repeatedly over several days - there are 3 (three) statics present. For every 10 wormholes in W-Space I guarentee you the statics will not be listed correctly on staticmapper.com and eveeye. It shows how little you travel in W-Space.
2). I price systems according to their market value, and yes surprise surprise I sell them promptly for those prices. If you have no interest in buying a wormhole for market rates then I'd suggest refraining from commenting. You seem to just like trolling and badmouthing sellers generally, which is quite frankly pretty pathetic.
3). Any unoccupied C1 or C2 wormhole with hisec static is pretty rare, generally very highly sought after, and therefore generally worth more than 1 billion ISK. This wormhole has the unique feature of 3 statics, which makes it an even rarer system.
Any serious bidders, please do get in touch 
|
Forgotten Heathen
Heretical Innovations
|
Posted - 2011.05.09 14:11:00 -
[17]
I'm just going to put in my two cents here because I ran into this before. I, too, thought I had a C2 with three statics. We are in a C2 with high sec and C3 statics. When we moved in, we scanned a third wormhole, and it stayed there in the same place for days. We ended up with alot of traffic, and it moved and we found out it was a D382, which means it for sure it a wormhole spawning in your wormhole system TO another one. We would close it and we'd get a new one.
It went on like that for almost a month. And then it disappeared. We didn't see it for awhile, then we got one for a few days, a D382, then it disappeared, just like a normal sig.
What you're seeing is probably the same thing. It might not even be a D382 now. You can't know for sure unless you open it, close it, scan again. Repeat a few times. If it comes back every single time, then maybe you do in fact have a third static, but, as people here have tried to point out, so far it hasn't been proved these exist.
In fact, if you perform a google search for eve online wormhole third static, you'll come up with only my blog ever talking about them.
Good luck and fly safe.
Wormholes, Asteroids, Profit! - Living In A Wormhole |
DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf
Amarr
|
Posted - 2011.05.09 14:27:00 -
[18]
In order:
1) Your word means nothing as I've seen people consistently overprice their wormholes on combat site returns in the system in any given moment. I've had more than a few friends buy whs and prior to them moving in either had the seller clean them out himself (not saying it's the case here) or a raiding party pass through activating whatever wasn't done so the price of the wormhole is (rationally/logically) based on its static connection(s) and PI potential. Static mapper and eveeye rely for the most part on player reports to correct any inconsistencies, the fact you did not report the existence (within that system) of 3 static connection or indeed that anyone else has failed to do so lends no credibility to your assertion that this system indeed has 3 statics or that you just failed to take into account that C2 systems almost always have high sec connections spawn on a daily/semi-daily basis.
2) Market value? It is a buyer's market and what your selling is the promise of a location, with credentials or not you cannot ask insane prices right off the bat and then rationalize it to being "market price". The abysmal PI production coupled with its gigantic size, large number of moons and ease of access from k-space make this sub-500 mil at best as anyone trying to live within the wh will need decent numbers to keep it secure and thus profit takes a sharp dive for each individual.
3) They are only sought after if they have good or great PI as their usage is for farming PI products and this one just doesn't cut it (even remotely close) to the 1 bil asking price.
Addendum: Next time you call me pathetic or a troll I'll actually do that and let you see the difference between constructive irony and trolling (hint: quite a few more gray hairs in your case).
|
Calmir Zin
|
Posted - 2011.05.09 14:36:00 -
[19]
Hey Forgotten Heathen,
That's a very unusual observation. I have travelled W-Space extensively, from C1s and C2s with their usual hisec statics, C3's with their typical lowsecs, the less-accessible middle C4 and C5 systems, and the typical C6's with their frequent nullsec statics. I've also seen a some rare permutations such as a C5 with a C1 static now and then.
Systems with 3 statics are not that common, but I've seen many on my travels. I have even seen systems with 4 statics. In my experience when you have 3 or 4 statics one will always be a K-Space static, and the others will be W-Space statics of different classes (never the same).
You do get what some people refer to as 'dynamic wormholes', which spawn in K-Space. K-Space systems never have 'statics'. To my knowledge the only wormholes you get in W-Space (bugs aside) are statics and the resultant exit K162's.
What I find even more interesting is that W-Space systems also have K162 rules (which are not available on sites such as staticmapper or eveeye). Some systems will for example, get K162's from W-Space systems but never from K-Space. The only way to really find this out is to inhabit a system for several months.
|
Calmir Zin
|
Posted - 2011.05.09 14:50:00 -
[20]
Edited by: Calmir Zin on 09/05/2011 14:50:45
Dark,
This really is wearing very thin old chap. I think you need to find a girl (or young man if that is what you prefer), get it out of your system, and start enjoying life once again.
Let me put this simply - you have proved in this thread alone that you have both limited knowledge of wormhole space, the relative value of systems therein, and zero interest in actually purchasing said systems. Your only interest appears to be in making scathing comments about sellers whares. Not exactly constructive eh? Especially when you are so ill-informed.
I know other W-Space real estate traders who run on exactly the same prices as I do. Furthermore, we have many happy customers who feel the prices they pay are thoroughly justifiable. I can also give plenty of references on request, from both satisfied customers and 3rd party sellers who can vouch for my honesty and professionalism.
So please do try to get a life, become less wearying (and pathetic) and cheer up eh?
|
|
|
Calmir Zin
|
Posted - 2011.05.10 08:16:00 -
[21]
This rare C2 with 3 statics is still available folks.
Anyone want to claim it and call it home?
Contact me any time!
|
Calmir Zin
|
Posted - 2011.05.10 20:13:00 -
[22]
Still available.
|
Daesis Wrack
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
|
Posted - 2011.05.10 20:38:00 -
[23]
Wormholes with 3 statics do not exist.
|
mis aliani
Minmatar
Exploration and Excavation Industries
|
Posted - 2011.05.10 20:56:00 -
[24]
you do not give up do you? can't you see that this post is lying dead on the floor? NOBODY, even the biggest noob, trusts you anymore! even if it were to be true (which seems to be very unlikely).
What if the woman you love returns from the dead, only to put a gun to your face?
...... love hurts |
Calmir Zin
|
Posted - 2011.05.10 21:42:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Daesis Wrack
Wormholes with 3 statics do not exist.
Actually they do Daesis, and they are relatively common.
|
Calmir Zin
|
Posted - 2011.05.10 21:44:00 -
[26]
Originally by: mis aliani
you do not give up do you? can't you see that this post is lying dead on the floor? NOBODY, even the biggest noob, trusts you anymore! even if it were to be true (which seems to be very unlikely).
Dark, I presume this is your attempt at trolling.
Real weak matey lols.
I have a perfect track record and 100% happy customers
|
Loraine Gess
|
Posted - 2011.05.10 23:11:00 -
[27]
Prove it has three statics.
|
Forgotten Heathen
Heretical Innovations
|
Posted - 2011.05.11 06:21:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Calmir Zin
Originally by: Daesis Wrack
Wormholes with 3 statics do not exist.
Actually they do Daesis, and they are relatively common.
This statement is amazing. Arguing with this guy is pointless. In all my time in wormholes, which is now considerable, I have never come across a wormhole with three statics. Could they exist? Sure! But with no facts and proof, these statements are valueless.
You want to prove that you have a third static? Then open all your wormholes. Warp to every single Unstable Wormhole sig you have in the system. 24 hours later, scan again. Still have three? Okay, now keep doing it for a week, because it can still be a coincidence. That's what mine was. A coincidence.
Here Calmir, this will make more sense to you.
Wrong, sir! Wrong! Under section 37B of the contract signed by him, it states quite clearly that all offers shall become null and void if - and you can read it for yourself in this photostatic copy - "I, the undersigned, shall forfeit all rights, privileges, and licenses herein and herein contained," et cetera, et cetera... "Fax mentis, incendium gloria cultum," et cetera, et cetera... Memo bis punitor delicatum! It's all there! Black and white, clear as crystal! You STOLE Fizzy-Lifting Drinks! You BUMPED into the ceiling, which now has to be washed and sterilized, so you get... NOTHING!!! You lose! GOOD DAY, SIR!
Wormholes, Asteroids, Profit! - Living In A Wormhole |
Calmir Zin
|
Posted - 2011.05.11 08:49:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Loraine Gess
Prove it has three statics.
OK guys, it seems apparent that we have a few 'self-proclaimed' wormhole experts here. This either shows that you have very little wormhole experience (and by this I mean inhabiting W-Space for some time), or that you have not travelled much.
I travel 5-10 systems a day, every day, month after month. W-Space systems with 3 statics are not common, but they do exist. This is how we can look at their abundance:
1 statics > 2 statics > 3 statics > 4 statics
I have never found a system with 5 statics. Now people FYI, there are no such thing as what some people refer to as 'dynamic wormholes' that begin in W-Space. These only originate in K-Space, and terminate in W-Space. These are wormholes that do not 'respawn' once they close.
I am absolutely amazed there are so many folks out there who have such limited knowledge. Maybe I should write a guide, see if I can get it published and make some real life ISKies
There will be absolute proof for anyone looking to buy this wormhole. As ever I provide full bookmarks for all sigs (including the statics in play). Furthermore all my sales are handled by Wirox Crotius, who will only carry out the sale once the customer is satisfied.
The lucky new owner of this system will therefore not only inherit a superb C2 with easy hisec access, but will enjoy 3 statics every day.
So any people out there who may have read this thread with suspicion, and have seen the guys trying to derail the sale of what is a superb wormhole space home. Why not drop me a line?
If I cannot sell you what I claim to have, then there is nothing lost on your part. I can guarantee a smooth sale, and something a bit special. A wormhole with 3 statics.
It's up for grabs guys!
|
Arlsen
|
Posted - 2011.05.11 11:21:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Calmir Zin
You do get what some people refer to as 'dynamic wormholes', which spawn in K-Space. K-Space systems never have 'statics'. To my knowledge the only wormholes you get in W-Space (bugs aside) are statics and the resultant exit K162's.
There's the red flag that's setting everyone off. You do know there are roaming, named (non-K162) wormholes which are not statics right? If you find a C140 in a C5 system are you going to claim it's got a lowsec static connection? Of course you are, because you're not listening to what everybody else is telling you |
|
|
Calmir Zin
|
Posted - 2011.05.11 13:05:00 -
[31]
Edited by: Calmir Zin on 11/05/2011 13:07:29
Edited by: Calmir Zin on 11/05/2011 13:07:19
Edited by: Calmir Zin on 11/05/2011 13:05:38
Originally by: Arlsen
Originally by: Calmir Zin
You do get what some people refer to as 'dynamic wormholes', which spawn in K-Space. K-Space systems never have 'statics'. To my knowledge the only wormholes you get in W-Space (bugs aside) are statics and the resultant exit K162's.
There's the red flag that's setting everyone off. You do know there are roaming, named (non-K162) wormholes which are not statics right? If you find a C140 in a C5 system are you going to claim it's got a lowsec static connection? Of course you are, because you're not listening to what everybody else is telling you
The reason why Arlsen, is that there are no such thing as 'roaming' wormholes. The only roaming wormholes as you call them, are the dynamic wormholes that spawn in K-Space and terminate in W-Space. All wormholes which spawn in W-Space are statics as they *always* respawn.
If you're not looking at a K162 in W-Space, it is a static.
|
Malkev
GRUMPS RESEARCH TEAM
|
Posted - 2011.05.11 14:31:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Calmir Zin
All wormholes which spawn in W-Space are statics as they *always* respawn.
Thing is, they don't all respawn on a daily basis like you are claiming. We would get a Y683 about once a month in our C2, far from daily.
Originally by: Calmir Zin
This gives you ready access to hisec for all your shopping and trading requirements, and immediate daily access to both C2 and C4 sites.
|
Bo Pipe
|
Posted - 2011.05.11 15:08:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Calmir Zin
The reason why Arlsen, is that there are no such thing as 'roaming' wormholes. The only roaming wormholes as you call them, are the dynamic wormholes that spawn in K-Space and terminate in W-Space. All wormholes which spawn in W-Space are statics as they *always* respawn.
If you're not looking at a K162 in W-Space, it is a static.
This is absolutely, completely, 100% false.
In my wormhole, every few days (on average) I get a Z142 dynamic. It does not respawn when it collapses.
Every couple of weeks (on average) I get a C140 dynamic. It does not respawn when it collapses.
Every couple of months (on average) I get a D792 dynamic. It does not respawn when it collapses.
Either you have no idea what you are talking about or you are intentionally trying to mislead people in order to scam a much higher price than your wormhole is really worth.
|
Calmir Zin
|
Posted - 2011.05.11 15:37:00 -
[34]
Edited by: Calmir Zin on 11/05/2011 15:38:00
Originally by: Bo Pipe
Originally by: Calmir Zin
The reason why Arlsen, is that there are no such thing as 'roaming' wormholes. The only roaming wormholes as you call them, are the dynamic wormholes that spawn in K-Space and terminate in W-Space. All wormholes which spawn in W-Space are statics as they *always* respawn.
If you're not looking at a K162 in W-Space, it is a static.
This is absolutely, completely, 100% false.
In my wormhole, every few days (on average) I get a Z142 dynamic. It does not respawn when it collapses.
Every couple of weeks (on average) I get a C140 dynamic. It does not respawn when it collapses.
Every couple of months (on average) I get a D792 dynamic. It does not respawn when it collapses.
Either you have no idea what you are talking about or you are intentionally trying to mislead people in order to scam a much higher price than your wormhole is really worth.
You are contradicting yourself here Bo Peep. You say your wormholes do not respawn so they are not statics, and then say they do respawn after a week or so. Any wormhole which *respawns* (either daily or weekly) is a 'static' wormhole - as I keep on saying.
I maintain through experience, that it is quite possible to have 3 statics which respawn daily however. The wormhole I have here for sale is one such wormhole. Rare, and highly desirable as it is...
|
Humsi Schlouff
|
Posted - 2011.05.11 15:56:00 -
[35]
Edited by: Humsi Schlouff on 11/05/2011 15:59:21
Static is when a WH reopens within the minute it collapsed.
All others are just occurrences.
Edit: removed already posted obvious link.
|
Loraine Gess
|
Posted - 2011.05.11 17:24:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Calmir Zin
Edited by: Calmir Zin on 11/05/2011 15:38:00
Originally by: Bo Pipe
Originally by: Calmir Zin
The reason why Arlsen, is that there are no such thing as 'roaming' wormholes. The only roaming wormholes as you call them, are the dynamic wormholes that spawn in K-Space and terminate in W-Space. All wormholes which spawn in W-Space are statics as they *always* respawn.
If you're not looking at a K162 in W-Space, it is a static.
This is absolutely, completely, 100% false.
In my wormhole, every few days (on average) I get a Z142 dynamic. It does not respawn when it collapses.
Every couple of weeks (on average) I get a C140 dynamic. It does not respawn when it collapses.
Every couple of months (on average) I get a D792 dynamic. It does not respawn when it collapses.
Either you have no idea what you are talking about or you are intentionally trying to mislead people in order to scam a much higher price than your wormhole is really worth.
You are contradicting yourself here Bo Peep. You say your wormholes do not respawn so they are not statics, and then say they do respawn after a week or so. Any wormhole which *respawns* (either daily or weekly) is a 'static' wormhole - as I keep on saying.
I maintain through experience, that it is quite possible to have 3 statics which respawn daily however. The wormhole I have here for sale is one such wormhole. Rare, and highly desirable as it is...
By your definition, arnon has a C5 static. I've scanned through there a few times and twice have found a C5 wormhole. In fact, if I wait long enough it'll spawn another C5 wormhole. Wormholes are only static if they are in fact always open, thus are static. If you wait long enough in any WH, you'll get a period in which outgoing/incoming wormholes of the same type will spawn repeatedly within a 1 month period, but that doesn't mean it's a static that just means you had several wormholes spawn! What you are doing is trying to bend the definition of a static wormhole for your own personal gain while dancing around semantics and claiming you have more experience than anyone in this thread. I'd like to see you try that with Tau or any K162/Rooks & Kings members, because they sure as hell have been doing this much longer than you.
|
Bo Pipe
|
Posted - 2011.05.11 18:17:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Bo Pipe on 11/05/2011 18:17:35
Originally by: Calmir Zin
You are contradicting yourself here Bo Peep. You say your wormholes do not respawn so they are not statics, and then say they do respawn after a week or so. Any wormhole which *respawns* (either daily or weekly) is a 'static' wormhole - as I keep on saying.
I maintain through experience, that it is quite possible to have 3 statics which respawn daily however. The wormhole I have here for sale is one such wormhole. Rare, and highly desirable as it is...
Again, you are incorrect. A static wormhole is one that, once collapsed, will immediately respawn elsewhere in the system. Your misunderstanding of this has lead you to argue that a dynamic wormhole is the same thing as a static - it isn't.
|
Forgotten Heathen
Heretical Innovations
|
Posted - 2011.05.11 20:08:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Calmir Zin
Edited by: Calmir Zin on 11/05/2011 13:07:29
Edited by: Calmir Zin on 11/05/2011 13:07:19
Edited by: Calmir Zin on 11/05/2011 13:05:38
Originally by: Arlsen
Originally by: Calmir Zin
You do get what some people refer to as 'dynamic wormholes', which spawn in K-Space. K-Space systems never have 'statics'. To my knowledge the only wormholes you get in W-Space (bugs aside) are statics and the resultant exit K162's.
There's the red flag that's setting everyone off. You do know there are roaming, named (non-K162) wormholes which are not statics right? If you find a C140 in a C5 system are you going to claim it's got a lowsec static connection? Of course you are, because you're not listening to what everybody else is telling you
The reason why Arlsen, is that there are no such thing as 'roaming' wormholes. The only roaming wormholes as you call them, are the dynamic wormholes that spawn in K-Space and terminate in W-Space. All wormholes which spawn in W-Space are statics as they *always* respawn.
If you're not looking at a K162 in W-Space, it is a static.
Arslen nailed it on the head. This guy thinks anything not named K162 is a "static". Wow. You sir have no idea what you are talking about. You've never lived in a wormhole system and scanned everyday for months at a time have you? It is obvious you have not. You are certainly not an expert on anything related to wormholes.
Wormholes, Asteroids, Profit! - Living In A Wormhole |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
|
Posted - 2011.05.12 14:25:00 -
[39]
Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 12/05/2011 14:32:02
Originally by: Calmir Zin
The reason why Arlsen, is that there are no such thing as 'roaming' wormholes. The only roaming wormholes as you call them, are the dynamic wormholes that spawn in K-Space and terminate in W-Space. All wormholes which spawn in W-Space are statics as they *always* respawn.
If you're not looking at a K162 in W-Space, it is a static.
This is incorrect.
Wormholes come in two flavors: incoming and outgoing. The Incoming side is always K162.
You can have random outgoing wormholes as well as random incoming wormholes. Most incoming tend to be other system's statics, but there are some from random wormholes.
Statics are always outgoing, but just because it is outgoing doesn't mean it is static!
For example, once or twice a month our C5 gets a random outgoing D792 to hisec. It despawns and doesn't come back. We also get random incoming wormholes from hisec. However we only have one static: a C5.
Static wormholes are always outgoing, and respawn almost immediately after they collapse. Random outgoing wormholes don't respawn after they collapse.
I've been living in w-space since Apocrypha created them (2+ years). I've never scanned a C2 with more than 2 statics, nor heard of one with more than 2 statics.
|
Hennrik's Girlfriend
|
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:02:00 -
[40]
What 99% of wspace dwellers refer to as 'statics'
are those non-K162 whs which always are of the same
type and ALWAYS IMMEDIATELY respawn. If you have a
static, you have it AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT IN TIME,
and not maybe next week.
You may privately refer to all sorts of random spawns
as 'statics' (would you call radars and magnetos
static, too, as they will eventally respawn next week
maybe?), but that is your private use of language and
will not raise the value of the wh you are advertising.
Rather, it will damage your reputation as people will
assume you have no idea about what youre dealing with.
Best to mark this thread as SOLD and carry on with
business after some reading up on wormholes  - or
prefferably living in them as most of your clients do.
|
|
|
Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
|
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:47:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Calmir Zin
The reason why Arlsen, is that there are no such thing as 'roaming' wormholes. The only roaming wormholes as you call them, are the dynamic wormholes that spawn in K-Space and terminate in W-Space. All wormholes which spawn in W-Space are statics as they *always* respawn.
If you're not looking at a K162 in W-Space, it is a static.
Holy crap, the fail has reached epic proportions. Our C2 has static C2/Lows. Every day we can find our C2 and low. Last week, however, I found not only our static C2 and low, but an additional C2. These are random holes that will periodically and unpredictably spawn, then go away. They are not static. They do not come back every day. We've had the rare (for us) random hole to high sec spawn. Seen a couple randoms to C3s. No, we don't have four statics as your argument might mislead people to believe.
|
padraig animal
Minmatar
Devil Corp
Bloodbound.
|
Posted - 2011.06.17 12:50:00 -
[42]
Edited by: padraig animal on 17/06/2011 12:50:10
.
|
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
|
Posted - 2011.06.17 13:51:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Ingvar Angst
Originally by: Calmir Zin
The reason why Arlsen, is that there are no such thing as 'roaming' wormholes. The only roaming wormholes as you call them, are the dynamic wormholes that spawn in K-Space and terminate in W-Space. All wormholes which spawn in W-Space are statics as they *always* respawn.
If you're not looking at a K162 in W-Space, it is a static.
Holy crap, the fail has reached epic proportions. Our C2 has static C2/Lows. Every day we can find our C2 and low. Last week, however, I found not only our static C2 and low, but an additional C2. These are random holes that will periodically and unpredictably spawn, then go away. They are not static. They do not come back every day. We've had the rare (for us) random hole to high sec spawn. Seen a couple randoms to C3s. No, we don't have four statics as your argument might mislead people to believe.
LIES!!
We know your in poession of the super,ultra rare C2 w/ 4 statics....Tell them Calmir Zin, don't blow my hero image of you
|
Victory Marilyn
|
Posted - 2011.06.17 17:22:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Calmir Zin
The reason why Arlsen, is that there are no such thing as 'roaming' wormholes. The only roaming wormholes as you call them, are the dynamic wormholes that spawn in K-Space and terminate in W-Space. All wormholes which spawn in W-Space are statics as they *always* respawn.
If you're not looking at a K162 in W-Space, it is a static.
By your logic, all the Grav sites in my system are Static too.
By the people living in W-Space, a "Static" wormhole is a wormhole that when it collapses IMMEDIATELY respawns another IN THE SAME SYSTEM. If the named non K162 wormhole does not immediately respawn in the same system it is not a static. Call it whatever the heck you want, but the fact you get a "floating" "Transient" "Temporary" wormhole "every so often" does not make them static. The fact they respawn "somewhere" and eventually "come back" does not make them static. They can not be counted on and most likely there are a certain number assigned to your region that bounce between systems in a random way.
Stop trying to create terms to suit your sale of a system, when 99% of the people don't use a term that way.
|
Risingson
Mezzanine Inc
|
Posted - 2011.06.17 17:26:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Risingson on 17/06/2011 17:34:14
Originally by: Calmir Zin
I have scanned the system in question repeatedly over several days - there are 3 (three) statics present. For every 10 wormholes in W-Space I guarentee you the statics will not be listed correctly on staticmapper.com and eveeye.
the static info on eveeye.com is the truth afaik.
// Eveeye.com :: IPS Solarsystem Intel & Info |
Apollo Gabriel
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
|
Posted - 2011.06.17 17:30:00 -
[46]
I've traveled wormholes for months, I've had several wormholes with 7 other wormholes and screen shots if anyone gives a ****. Now, just because it has 3 NON K162 even for a few days, doesn't make it a static wh.
I personally have been in over 250 different wormhole systems of c3 and under, again I have bms if anyone gives a ****. I have never seen three statics. I have seen MANY c2s with three NON k162, but that wasn't because it had three statics. There are several whs that randomly link the clusters together.
Op, you should probably reconsider your absolute knowledge,
AG
***** Signature may appear without warning! *****
Please do not feed the trolls, it builds dependency.
|
|
|
| |
|
| Pages: 1 2 :: [one page] |