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Kaikura Akuji
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Posted - 2005.02.11 04:00:00 -
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I was out killing rats.When some guy in a destroyer targets me.I just thought it was another rat,so i fired.Then i realized it was'nt a rat but it was to late.
He gave me my stuff back.He said he ment to target a roid but go me instead.So this was a first for me.Can i repair my stats?If so how.I'm afraid to leave the station as i've heard you can get blown up again.
Dam i lost my merlin.This realy stinks.I did have full insurance at least.That guy was out mining in that ship.
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Jalia Kovac
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Posted - 2005.02.11 04:26:00 -
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Edited by: Jalia Kovac on 11/02/2005 04:36:42 Edited by: Jalia Kovac on 11/02/2005 04:35:46 Unfortunately, that's one of the oldest tricks in the book. Some two week old player tricks a few day old player by targeting them and having them shoot back. Sorry you got burned. Consider it a learning experience. 
There is a wait time once you are flagged by CONCORD. To be safe, do not undock in anything you care about for at least 30 minutes.
When you say repair your stats do you mean you lost skill points? If you did, make sure to go to a station with a Medical service in it to upgrade your clone. You can find the locations of Cloning stations using the Stars tab of the map.
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MinorFreak
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Posted - 2005.02.11 06:01:00 -
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i thought it was 15 minutes? ______________________ Best darned links ingame and out (backup) |

Scerenity
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Posted - 2005.02.11 07:17:00 -
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It is 15 minutes. Oh and the timer gets reset if you logoff, so make sure that you've been *online* for 15 minutes after, instead of it simply being 15 minutes since it last occured .
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Typherin laidai
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Posted - 2005.02.11 07:47:00 -
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When you say repair your stats do you mean your sec status ? if this is the case dont worry about it. Killing NPC's iether in belts or through missions will build you status back up to a positive  Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5
'Give me a position of power and I'l abuse it in an instant' |

Cheru'bael
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Posted - 2005.02.11 08:06:00 -
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Edited by: Cheru'bael on 11/02/2005 09:09:50 Edited by: Cheru'bael on 11/02/2005 08:28:27 Edited by: Cheru'bael on 11/02/2005 08:21:00 Edited by: Cheru'bael on 11/02/2005 08:20:23 hmmmmm...my hit was -0.5% to standings for aggression (i was at chaven training grounds with smartbombs getting certificates for n00bs when someone decided to peek at one of the boxes near me)

apparently, it looks like it'll take me about 100 kills of lowly sansha minions, servants, etc in order to recoup what i'd lost.
no biggie. last time i died was way back in december, so it's not like i make a habit out of it.
   hot damn, i tried to go back after 30 minutes but the concord police blew me away again. WTF? I was docked during most of the period, but not logged.
time= 7:44 and then again at 8:18
hmmmmmm...and again when i tested just hanging outside station in a shuttle. blam.i wonder if the timer resets every time concord blows you away? hmmmmmm...i logged just to test the theory, but it looks like "timer turns off at log" is incorrect as far as i can tell. I'm not keen on repeating these tests since i'm free and clear now.
It does seem rather important to know the rules, and as a n00b this is one of the things that really disturbed me - not the fact i did something dumb and the AI blew me to spacedust, it was the fact you don't get a warning about your flagged state.
I'm assuming i'll get a smartass hypothetical reply from CCP stating if they told the mechanics it would be exploited. uhhh..nah, sorry, the fact is the lack of knowledge is griefing customers more than exploiters ever could.
the fact your ingame help oracle doesn't work; the ingame knowledge base simply brings up the "file petition" process; add that the external website "find answers" categories and search DON'T work; your petition system no longer gives appropriate FAQ links in "finalization" process; The entire customer service infrastructure is so borked i feel for the folks being employed.
you've dropped the ball people. 
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Monty Burns
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Posted - 2005.02.11 09:28:00 -
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Yeah the timer has a random factor to it.
I once lost a hauler after 45 mins, petitioned and was told "tough". The timer can actually be anywhere from 15 to 120mins, the higher numbers are rare though. This was all from a helpdesk person <shrug> so I guess it could be BS.
Better luck next time ... and check your targets! 
Darwin 4tw
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Kaikura Akuji
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Posted - 2005.02.11 11:39:00 -
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Thx everyone for your help.Man it sucks to loss a ship like that.One missle fired at that guy and i was toast in less than 10 seconds.
Why did he target me?If he's in destroyer he should know how to target a roid instead of another player.I got out of the station safely.I waited 30 minutes.
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Disphforia Minmatar
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Posted - 2005.02.11 12:45:00 -
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mining in a destroyer haha, that's funny... Main account awaiting reactivation.. |

Desirre Celestial
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Posted - 2005.02.11 16:31:00 -
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IMHO there is no advantage (unless youŠre a pirate) on turning off the 'civilian warning check' feature. Many times the little box saved me from shoting something i shouldnŠt.
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Echo 1
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Posted - 2005.02.11 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Cheru'bael
I'm assuming i'll get a smartass hypothetical reply from CCP stating if they told the mechanics it would be exploited. uhhh..nah, sorry, the fact is the lack of knowledge is griefing customers more than exploiters ever could.
the fact your ingame help oracle doesn't work; the ingame knowledge base simply brings up the "file petition" process; add that the external website "find answers" categories and search DON'T work; your petition system no longer gives appropriate FAQ links in "finalization" process; The entire customer service infrastructure is so borked i feel for the folks being employed.
you've dropped the ball people. 
Try using the Help Channels for questions you have... Much of the time many of the people in them can help you with problems you have.
Good bunch of people who visit Rookie Help often who know a lot about the game
------- 'I specialise in relieving people from the confinments of their capsules.' |

MinorFreak
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Posted - 2005.02.12 04:05:00 -
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Originally by: Desirre Celestial IMHO there is no advantage (unless youŠre a pirate) on turning off the 'civilian warning check' feature. Many times the little box saved me from shoting something i shouldnŠt.
yes, but if something targets you and you begin targetting automatically, does the popup still appear? ______________________ Best darned links ingame and out (backup) |

Desirre Celestial
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Posted - 2005.02.14 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: MinorFreak
Originally by: Desirre Celestial IMHO there is no advantage (unless youŠre a pirate) on turning off the 'civilian warning check' feature. Many times the little box saved me from shoting something i shouldnŠt.
yes, but if something targets you and you begin targetting automatically, does the popup still appear?
The popup doesnŠt appear when you target something but only when you actually click on a weapon.
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MinorFreak
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Posted - 2005.02.14 17:03:00 -
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ahhhhhhhhh...yes, that one. after my n00b mistake many mooons ago i've never ever disabled that one. lol ______________________ Best darned links ingame and out (backup) |

Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.02.14 21:32:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 14/02/2005 21:32:23
Originally by: Kaikura Akuji Thx everyone for your help.Man it sucks to loss a ship like that.One missle fired at that guy and i was toast in less than 10 seconds.
Why did he target me?If he's in destroyer he should know how to target a roid instead of another player.I got out of the station safely.I waited 30 minutes.
There are noobs in battleships. A destroyer is chump change.
Also, don't refer to it as "Your Oracle" or whatever--this isn't our game, its CCP's.
And you have to wait 20 minutes, logged on, in station to be unflagged. -- The best description of alliances, ever:
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MinorFreak
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Posted - 2005.02.14 21:40:00 -
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20 minutes logged in AND continuous state of being docked at a station. hmmmmmm...nope, looks like what i did (longer than 20minutes; logged in; docked) and what you're telling me are total opposites, so don't mind if i treat you like a common troll and poke you with a troll stick.
*poke* ______________________ Best darned links ingame and out (backup) |

BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2005.02.14 22:45:00 -
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if you are shot at before the timer has expired the timer is RESET....
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