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Zyrbalax III	Posted - 2011.05.12 15:56:00 - [1] New poster, been playing <1 yr, been reading the forums since I started playing EVE. Haven't visited nullsec (apart from W-space) yet (flame away!), but I read a lot of folks complaining about big alliances dominating nullsec. So here's how to nerf that "problem" (if anyone wants to): Make fees exponential. e.g. each new corp joining an alliance costs twice as much as the last. Example: 2-corp alliance, fees 4m ISK (as now); 3-corp alliance, fees 8m ISK; 4-corp alliance, fees 16m ISK; so when you get to a 10-corp alliance, maintenance fees are 1bn ISK. This would make it a LOT cheaper to be in a small alliance, and would make mega alliances prohibitively expensive. Would this work?
Danika Princip Minmatar Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2011.05.12 16:01:00 - [2] You're an idiot.
Zyrbalax III	Posted - 2011.05.12 16:13:00 - [3] Hmm, yeah, thanks for the contructive comments. Right back at ya. Given your alliance has 23 corps and 10 systems (not exactly top of the leaderboard), do you see this idea as a threat to what you have, or could it be an opportunity to balance nullsec and encourage more people to head out to null?
Darak Tar	Posted - 2011.05.12 16:14:00 - [4] I won't just completely shoot you down about this. I understand what you're saying. but heres the loophole. Coalitions. already exist and in massive numbers. all you'd get if you did things your way would be much greater numbers of smaller alliances in the same coalitions. This would also ruin the Alliance fleet perspective alittle because you'd not be able to form up as big fleets because your Alliance chat would be limited to say 1/10th of your coalitions actual size rather than say 1/3. which means you'd end up with a dedicated Coalition chat channel, alliance channel would become unused etc etc. plenty of knockon effects.
Zyrbalax III	Posted - 2011.05.12 16:21:00 - [5] Thanks for taking time to explain Darak, that makes a lot of sense. I was wondering how prevalent informal alliances were - sounds like that would make this idea unworkable. So much to learn in this game
Darak Tar	Posted - 2011.05.12 16:26:00 - [6] Originally by: Zyrbalax III Thanks for taking time to explain Darak, that makes a lot of sense. I was wondering how prevalent informal alliances were - sounds like that would make this idea unworkable. So much to learn in this game No problem at all. I'm reasonably new to the game myself but after flying in Null Sec Corps/Alliances for 9 months I have a bit more of an insider perspective. to sum up your question about Informal Alliances. they are everything. Its the Coalitions that rule Eve for the most part rather than the Alliances themselves.
Annasys Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.05.12 16:31:00 - [7] I am a big fan of knowing what you are talking about before making asinine suggestions.
MrCaptAwsm Ghosts of Ragnarok Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.05.12 16:42:00 - [8] Edited by: MrCaptAwsm on 12/05/2011 16:43:14 Edited by: MrCaptAwsm on 12/05/2011 16:42:45 TEST TESTDOT TESTDOTDOT TESTDOTDOTDOT Even assuming "large alliances" are a problem in nullsec (they are not), this wouldn't solve the problem. You're wrong on both counts. Stop Posting.
Annasys Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.05.12 16:44:00 - [9] Originally by: MrCaptAwsm Edited by: MrCaptAwsm on 12/05/2011 16:43:14 Edited by: MrCaptAwsm on 12/05/2011 16:42:45 TEST TESTDOT TESTDOTDOT TESTDOTDOTDOT Even assuming "large alliances" are a problem in nullsec (they are not), this wouldn't solve the problem. You're wrong on both counts. Stop Posting. You forgot a few: DOTTEST DOTDOTTEST DOTTESTDOT DOTTESTDOTDOT DOTDOTTESTDOT I am a big fan of knowing what you are talking about prior to making asinine suggestions or comments.
Bubba Coronet	Posted - 2011.05.12 16:45:00 - [10] Originally by: Zyrbalax III been reading the forums since I started playing EVE. Well, there's your problem... PS Imagine all those iskseller using this trick to make their alliances the biggest in the game. That'd nerf things alright. You'd turn us into the Chinese server...
Darksteel Rifter	Posted - 2011.05.12 17:17:00 - [11] @OP you're absolutely right, if your objective is to make sure that nullsec has only small groups. There's not much point in doing that, however. It'll still be nullsec, and it'll still be dominated by the folks who make home there. If you want a cut of the pie, join one of the corporations or alliances that live out there. I lived in highsec for a few months, and went out to nullsec on occasion. All I could make out was that the few folks I met here and there never spoke a word and always always tried to kill me. It was when I made a post in the recruitment forum asking to join a nullsec corp, that I got lots of responses really quick. I found out folks in nullsec are really quite social, but have to sneak around and kill everyone they see for security reasons. I've only lived in nullsec for a few months, but it's pretty easy to adapt to. You learn to stick to "blue" regions and check local a lot. That's about it really.
Malephar	Posted - 2011.05.12 19:26:00 - [12] Give the guy a break... He readily admitted he had no experience of 0.0, up front and honestly. Then he made a suggestion, phrased at the end as a question: "Would this work?" He hasn't been a jerk about it, so there's no need to flame him.
Annasys Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.05.12 19:31:00 - [13] Originally by: Malephar He hasn't been a jerk about it, so there's no need to flame him. I point you to this: Originally by: Zyrbalax III bunch of useless ** (flame away!) more useless And as to this: Originally by:** Malephar Give the guy a break... He readily admitted he had no experience of 0.0, up front and honestly. Then he made a suggestion, phrased at the end as a question: "Would this work?" I just ask you to please read my signature, which is posted below. TIA I am a big fan of knowing what you are talking about prior to making asinine suggestions or comments.
Malephar	Posted - 2011.05.12 20:06:00 - [14] Originally by: Annasys <various crap> I just ask you to please read my signature, which is posted below. TIA I stand corrected... you obviously DO really need to be a jerk.
Reeno Coleman	Posted - 2011.05.12 20:08:00 - [15] The recently announced jump bridge nerf is pretty nasty for big alliances/coalitions. Maybe there's more to come? who knows... People cuddling together in large groups to protect themselves is the most natural thing in the world. With Eve being the sandbox kind of game, it's no surprise we see this. Since there's still room for the smaller groups in between the giants, i see no problem yet.
Danika Princip Minmatar Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2011.05.12 20:21:00 - [16] Originally by: Zyrbalax III Hmm, yeah, thanks for the contructive comments. Right back at ya. Given your alliance has 23 corps and 10 systems (not exactly top of the leaderboard), do you see this idea as a threat to what you have, or could it be an opportunity to balance nullsec and encourage more people to head out to null? Yeah, and my 23 corp alliance would be paying how much exactly? If I've done this right, over 8 trillion isk. According to dotlan we have 1600 members. All you'd do would be to cause alliances to merge all of their corps into one, or to splinter into hundreds of one or two system aliances.
Gerard Gendri Gallente Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.05.12 20:22:00 - [17] Originally by: Reeno Coleman The recently announced jump bridge nerf is pretty nasty for big alliances/coalitions. Maybe there's more to come? who knows... People cuddling together in large groups to protect themselves is the most natural thing in the world. With Eve being the sandbox kind of game, it's no surprise we see this. Since there's still room for the smaller groups in between the giants, i see no problem yet. Actually, the JB change isn't that big of a deal
Zan Shiro	Posted - 2011.05.12 22:39:00 - [18] Originally by: Reeno Coleman The recently announced jump bridge nerf is pretty nasty for big alliances/coalitions. Maybe there's more to come? who knows.... umm they just have to tear 1 down, move to next system and done. Adds a whopping minute or 2 for the gate jump to travel time, yep this will be alliance ending . Pos slaves may hate the extra work...but well they are pos slaves, they'll get over it.
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.05.13 07:58:00 - [19] Originally by: Zyrbalax III New poster, been playing <1 yr, been reading the forums since I started playing EVE. Haven't visited nullsec (apart from W-space) yet (flame away!), but I read a lot of folks complaining about big alliances dominating nullsec. So here's how to nerf that "problem" (if anyone wants to) snip Would this work? You did post this because you did read stuff on a forum, stuff that got posted by other people you don't know? And you want to solve a problem with that? Right.. Try again and be prepared next time, cause you already played the 'I'm-just-a-green-noob-card'. Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Piwat King	Posted - 2011.05.16 18:12:00 - [20] Originally by: Annasys I just ask you to please read my signature, which is posted below. TIA It's the "I'm hiding behind a computer screen so you can't punch my face in" syndrome.
Annasys Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.05.16 18:14:00 - [21] Originally by: Piwat King Originally by: Annasys I just ask you to please read my signature, which is posted below. TIA It's the "I'm hiding behind a computer screen so you can't punch my face in" syndrome. It's the "I have no reading comprehension, so I talk out of my ass" syndrome. Good job! --------------------------------------------- I am a big fan of knowing what you are talking about prior to making asinine suggestions or comments.

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