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Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2011.05.18 23:08:00 -
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I will be trying to post a daily quick report on the summit in my blog, and hopefully other CSM delegates will be able to as well. This thread will contain links to any reports that surface.
Kicking it off: CSM Summit Day 0 - "Quest for Bacon"
Enjoy (for small values of enjoy) Trebor
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VCBee 2fast2furious
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.05.18 23:58:00 -
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(psst, its 2011)
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Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2011.05.19 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: VCBee 2fast2furious (psst, its 2011)
I was very tired.
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Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2011.05.19 22:12:00 -
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Day 1 Summary - Let Them Eat Cake
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2011.05.19 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow Day 1 Summary - Let Them Eat Cake
hey we want to know, time for YOU to make them drink and accept to pubish it
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cerbus
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.05.20 15:48:00 -
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Zinfandel quote win
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Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2011.05.20 15:58:00 -
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Day 2 - "Dreaming of Quality Assurance"
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.20 18:07:00 -
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Thanks for posting these up, good stuff (even though I do wish they could be more detailed....but I understand NDA's). ~Gnosis~ |
Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2011.05.21 02:23:00 -
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Day 3 - "Girls play EVE?"
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2011.05.21 05:41:00 -
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I assume you're the only one posting these since the others are getting ****faced drunk at every opportunity? |
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VCBee 2fast2furious
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.05.21 08:04:00 -
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I'm curious as to why EvE is like golf?
(I'd suggest that its because golf is a boring expensive waste of time but that would just be impolite)
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Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2011.05.21 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: VCBee 2fast2furious (I'd suggest that its because golf is a boring expensive waste of time but that would just be impolite)
You'll have to wait until the minutes to get the context of that statement, it was just a teaser.
As for the alcohol situation, while it was true that some alcohol was consumed (and a significant amount on Friday night after the summit closed), it did not seem to have a noticeable effect -- all the drinking CSMs are two-fisted internet hardmen who would not let a little thing like a hangover prevent them from important task of destroying EVE.
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Salpun
Gallente Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.05.21 12:06:00 -
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Publication date on minutes? or best guess.
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Pirokobo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.05.21 15:23:00 -
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Quote: Feature Abandonment
A broad discussion of the resource contention issues that relate to this vexing issue -- and what CSM can do -- segued into discussions of wormhole space, Incarna, POS's, ship balancing, and several other items. At the end of this session, CCP Zinfandel popped in to show the CSM some of the upcoming Incarna vanity clothing items, which looked really, really sweet.
So they interrupted a discussion about feature abandonment... to show off another feature they'll soon abandon?
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Mynxee
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.05.21 15:57:00 -
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It's nice to hear *something* and your effort is appreciated, Trebor, but those blog posts sure don't have much meat on the bones.
It will be interesting to see whether the minutes are more robust both in content and passion from the CSM6 on topics that have been so high profile lately. I hope we're not simply given more of the same "stuff we did" descriptions with a big red NDA stamp on any details that would be worth having a useful dialog about in the community.
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Jonathan Malcom
Gallente Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.05.21 17:53:00 -
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I realize that this is serious NDA business and you cant give any details, but i'll go ahead andask anyway.
I'm one of like five people who is genuinely excited about Dust 514. All I want to know, without going into any detail, is this:
Will the link between Eve and Dust, as discussed at the summit, be, in your opinion, stupid or awesome?
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.05.21 20:47:00 -
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Quote: CCP wants to allocate resources to continuous ship balancing.
Well, that's encouraging I suppose.
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Tir Arsil
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Posted - 2011.05.21 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jonathan Malcom Will the link between Eve and Dust, as discussed at the summit, be, in your opinion, stupid or awesome?
My concern as well. As an old FPS junkie (both computer and console), my interest in Dust is centered on the link between it and the rest of New Eden. If it's cool, interesting and meaningful then Dust will be likewise to me. If not, a cash grab and waste of potential resources. I've learned to be cynical of the promises hinted at in CCP's highly-polished videos such as "Future Vision"; so to me they've told us practically nothing concrete since its announcement in '09.
I don't know if any of the CSM have experience with modern FPSes; I don't recall you ever mentioning you were, Trebor. Any insight would be appreciated, regardless.
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Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2011.05.22 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Pirokobo So they interrupted a discussion about feature abandonment... to show off another feature they'll soon abandon?
No. We ran late every day. And the Incarna vanity items are very nice, it was downright embarrassing watching Seleene and Mittens drool over high-heels and leather jackets.
@Salpun: we will get to work on the minutes after we have a few days to decompress. We want to push them out as fast as possible, but also make them as detailed as possible. As in December, we have video recordings of the sessions we can use to transcribe from.
@Mynxee: I just wanted to get some quick notes out, but not spoil the minutes. You know how it goes, there are lots of juicy things. For me, the most interesting meeting was the Marketing one and the discussions it spawned, which was not something I would have predicted going in.
@Jonathan: I think you will find the minutes quite interesting...
@Tir: I don't play FPS games myself, because I am old and have the reflexes of a sedated sloth, but I have two teenagers who are serious fragmasters.
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Salpun
Gallente Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.05.22 10:03:00 -
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Thanks for all the hard work.
Did CCP indicate they where going to hold off on the 1000 questions-answers thread till after the minutes are out or are they going to answer some and maybe steal some of your thunder.
Details, details everyone wants more details.
Any news on the new forums that you can put out. Will it be reopened before the minutes come out so we can shift the topic threads over there.
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Sekket
Caldari White-Noise
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Posted - 2011.05.23 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow Deceased Equines, and whether they should be beaten, were discussed.
Please please let this have been discussed.
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Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2011.05.23 11:01:00 -
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@Salpun: I don't know what their plans are with regards the questions or forums.
@Sekket: We had a full session on POS misery; the dead horse thread was obviously a part of that.
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Mr LaForge
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Posted - 2011.05.23 20:09:00 -
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Transparency 0 - CCP 1
What is the point of the minutes if everything important that is discussed is all under an NDA? Just like real world politics, the politicians that are elected can't tell their voters what they want and need to hear.
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GIGAR
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.05.23 21:40:00 -
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Nice blog. Well, except for the NDA parts.
Wasn't the point of the CSM that the players could have more insight into what the gravy CCP was doing? If so, I would consider it a failure D: (previous CSM meetings aren't exactly mind-boggling)
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Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2011.05.24 10:05:00 -
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Edited by: Trebor Daehdoow on 24/05/2011 10:07:13 Umm... you do realize that it is going to take us a few weeks to get the minutes edited and released (it's a big job), right?
And also that traditionally CCP has been very light on the NDA sauce. I have several times expected them to NDA some things only to hear not a peep. For example, on discussions of existing FiS features, it is unlikely that the NDA will be invoked on anything.
Edit: another reason that I was very high-level in the blog postings was that I don't want to steal the thunder of those devs that will be writing devblogs in the near future; they did a lot of hard work and deserve their moment of glory.
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Extreme
Eye of God United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.24 10:49:00 -
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Edited by: Extreme on 24/05/2011 10:50:51
Kudos to you Trebor,
You keep speaking in the "we"-form while it is just you of CSM-6 that is doing the (public) job,...
at least that's what "we",the public , witness.
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.05.24 17:55:00 -
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These blogs were a delightful read. My sense of anticipation for the full minutes is higher than ever, but I'd much rather a robust read than a rushed release. ---
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.05.24 19:01:00 -
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Looking forward to reading the more in-depth versions. Thanks for the short and sweet though Trebor.
This signature is useless, but it is red.
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Kal Phaedron
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Posted - 2011.05.26 04:30:00 -
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Thank you for your efforts.
I suspect there will be more released. Will it be as much as we want? Probably not, but I am confident it will be something worthwhile. ------------------------------------------------
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Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2011.05.26 11:10:00 -
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My policy with summit minutes -- which I am encouraging my colleagues to adopt -- is to put as much into them as possible, then edit them as needed if participants express concerns (like NDA).
So the draft of CCP Sreegs presentation (aka "Sreegs Team Six - The War on Bots") is 1100 words for a 30 minute session.
PS: +1 to Two Step for two-stepping up and taking on the minutes prep for a couple of sessions, even though he wasn't at the summit.
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