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Wendi Watson
Organization Too Secret To Know
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Posted - 2011.05.19 17:46:00 -
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Edited by: Wendi Watson on 19/05/2011 17:54:28
Edited by: Wendi Watson on 19/05/2011 17:49:26
Just when you thought they couldn't make the S&I interface any worse, they've done it again. Now instead of having the "Accept Quote" button be the default action, and being able to hit the return button, you actually have to click the Accept Button with the mouse. This makes submission of batches of jobs just that much more painful.
On top of that, they didn't fix the extremely easy bug of having the "To Date" filter on the Jobs tab automatically with the current date. 
On further examination, it seems that the problem is that the quote dialog isn't being given focus when it opens.
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Chrome Ozone
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Posted - 2011.05.19 18:08:00 -
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Hopefully they add the ability the select multiple amounts of like items(invention or manufacturing) that can be installed at once so you only have to go through the process once. The number of clicks right now is a bit silly if you install 11 jobs. I understand why they made the change, but doesn't mean the entire experience doesn't need an overhaul.
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Saratonias
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Posted - 2011.05.19 18:38:00 -
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Additionally, canceling a quote no longer takes you back to the assembly-line/quantity dialog so that you can reduce your number of runs if you're satisfied with making less of an item that you were short of mats on, or if you're trying to adjust the number of runs to meet your sleep cycle. Instead it completely cancels you out, requiring blueprint and assembly-line reselection.
And the red "Must Select 1 Item" on the quote dialog - that had me confused there for a bit, since there's nothing to "select", only buttons to press.
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Ruziel
Minmatar
Twilight Military Industrial Complex
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Posted - 2011.05.19 18:47:00 -
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What I don't get is why they needed to mess with in the first place. If you had a quote where you were missing items, you could dump the extra items in whatever hangar you were using for the source and hit the "Accept Quote" button, even if the quote still showed missing materials.
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Tylwyth Teg
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.05.19 19:00:00 -
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This "fix" is so much fail I cannot describe it......now it takes me longer to install 10 jobs.
Thanks CCP, for a change that makes industry more painful.
This is one of the biggest fails I have yet seen in this game.
CCP: I say to you BOOOOOOOO!!!! BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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Kethas Protagonist
Protagonist Ventures
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Posted - 2011.05.19 20:45:00 -
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 Originally by: Wendi Watson
On further examination, it seems that the problem is that the quote dialog isn't being given focus when it opens.
Yup. I'm trying not to be sensationalist, but I find it really odd that it wasn't noticed by internal testers. It's a really mundane bug that slows down queueing up multiple manufacturing jobs.
Originally by: Chrome Ozone
Hopefully they add the ability the select multiple amounts of like items(invention or manufacturing) that can be installed at once so you only have to go through the process once.
I agree that'd be a nice addition, and probably easy to implement (shift-select multiple BPOs -> right-click on one and select Manufacture -> game realizes you're trying to manufacture off all the selected BPOs and sums together materials, skills needed, etc), but that's a different issue from "please make the manufacturing job confirmation screen claim focus, like before the patch, so we can just hit Enter."
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Karia Sur
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Posted - 2011.05.19 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kethas Protagonist
but I find it really odd that it wasn't noticed by internal testers.
in which patch notes did it mention about them testing things?
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Lost Hamster
Hamster Holding Corp
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Posted - 2011.05.19 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Saratonias
Additionally, canceling a quote no longer takes you back to the assembly-line/quantity dialog so that you can reduce your number of runs if you're satisfied with making less of an item that you were short of mats on, or if you're trying to adjust the number of runs to meet your sleep cycle. Instead it completely cancels you out, requiring blueprint and assembly-line reselection.
Quoted for the bigest fail in the patch.
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Bieber Fever
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Posted - 2011.05.19 22:08:00 -
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Edited by: Bieber Fever on 19/05/2011 22:09:34
Nobody at CCP plays this game, breaking the game and making "fixes" like this that cause so much grief is standard.
When I discovered this it was just one more brutal blow to the complete crap that is science & Industry.
One more ******ed click added to the thousands of useless clicks, oh well.
I can only imagine that it would take 25% of the time to actually fix the game that they spend breaking it.
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RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.20 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Saratonias
Additionally, canceling a quote no longer takes you back to the assembly-line/quantity dialog so that you can reduce your number of runs if you're satisfied with making less of an item that you were short of mats on, or if you're trying to adjust the number of runs to meet your sleep cycle. Instead it completely cancels you out, requiring blueprint and assembly-line reselection.
yes annoying *10
Originally by: Wendi Watson
On further examination, it seems that the problem is that the quote dialog isn't being given focus when it opens.
yeah that would of helped a lot
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Eyanosa Swan
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Posted - 2011.05.20 11:19:00 -
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as stated not being able to go "back" from the quote screen and alter the amount of runs you're doing is a bit of a pain.
2ndly, the "must pick one item" and "goods required" appear for blueprint research jobs, which don't require any goods, just the BluePrint and a research slot. Seems you've shoehorned research into the manufactoring window.
tsk tsk!
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Proton Power
Amarr
Retirement Retreat
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Posted - 2011.05.20 12:09:00 -
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Have to admit installing my 30ish jobs yesterday was more of pain than I have had in a while, mainly because I was so used to the last box.
As said above I do not understand the purpose of the change though, if you didn't have enough materials all you had to do was drag more in and hit accept, it would still work.
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News Group
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Posted - 2011.05.20 17:10:00 -
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I think this change was made for the casual inventor rather than for the more serious player. Players who invent infrequently often are unaware of all the items needed. This change makes it easier for them to correct the job once started. After installing 22 jobs the other day it definitely was not easier for me.
I think this change reflects a continued move toward simplifying (dumbing down) the game. The goal, I think, is to make Eve a more simple game that will integrate more easily with the console players who will join us when "walking in stations" becomes a reality.
For CCP, console players = $$$.
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Nightwing
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Posted - 2011.05.20 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Saratonias
Additionally, canceling a quote no longer takes you back to the assembly-line/quantity dialog so that you can reduce your number of runs if you're satisfied with making less of an item that you were short of mats on, or if you're trying to adjust the number of runs to meet your sleep cycle. Instead it completely cancels you out, requiring blueprint and assembly-line reselection.
And the red "Must Select 1 Item" on the quote dialog - that had me confused there for a bit, since there's nothing to "select", only buttons to press.
This is the most annoying feature change ever.. CCP.. PLEASE bring it back
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ASIV TRE
FREE GATES
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2011.05.20 23:05:00 -
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Congratulation CCP. You managed that I'm seriously thinking about to stop playing industry at all, what was my fav. Which could result that, that I will not pay my next month.
What a f*kup...
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.05.21 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: News Group
I think this change was made for the casual inventor rather than for the more serious player. Players who invent infrequently often are unaware of all the items needed. This change makes it easier for them to correct the job once started. After installing 22 jobs the other day it definitely was not easier for me.
I think this change reflects a continued move toward simplifying (dumbing down) the game. The goal, I think, is to make Eve a more simple game that will integrate more easily with the console players who will join us when "walking in stations" becomes a reality.
For CCP, console players = $$$.
Yeah ... that sounds about right ...
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
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Posted - 2011.05.21 09:07:00 -
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Only a simple fix is required - make the quote window gain focus when it appears, so we don't have to select it manually (i.e. by clicking on it or via ctrl+tab), and make accept the default option. The refresh button is useful for new players, but for the vast majority of jobs people will already have what they need.
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Ruziel
Minmatar
Twilight Military Industrial Complex
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Posted - 2011.05.22 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 21/05/2011 09:36:02
Only a simple fix is required - make the quote window gain focus when it appears, so we don't have to select it manually (i.e. by clicking on it or via ctrl+tab), and make accept the default option. The refresh button is useful for new players, but for the vast majority of jobs people will already have what they need.
I've started a thread about this in the assembly hall:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1514423
I think a thread in the assembly hall was unnecessary. The Accept is still the default action, if the dialog has focus, the problem is that the Quote dialog doesn't have focus.
I've bug reported the issue, and it's showing as being fixed in an upcoming patch.
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CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.23 05:27:00 -
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Hello everyone,
The Science & Industry issues have been fixed internally and will be deployed in the next patch. Unfortunately, I cannot give any exact dates at this moment.
Spitfire
Community Representative
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Brego Tralowski
Galactic Extensive Technologies
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Posted - 2011.05.24 05:21:00 -
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Originally by: Saratonias
Additionally, canceling a quote no longer takes you back to the assembly-line/quantity dialog so that you can reduce your number of runs if you're satisfied with making less of an item that you were short of mats on, or if you're trying to adjust the number of runs to meet your sleep cycle. Instead it completely cancels you out, requiring blueprint and assembly-line reselection.
This drives me mental - why oh why? Boohissboo 
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DeODokktor
Caldari
Dark Templars
The Fonz Presidium
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Posted - 2011.05.24 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Saratonias
Additionally, canceling a quote no longer takes you back to the assembly-line/quantity dialog so that you can reduce your number of runs if you're satisfied with making less of an item that you were short of mats on, or if you're trying to adjust the number of runs to meet your sleep cycle. Instead it completely cancels you out, requiring blueprint and assembly-line reselection.
I would put /signed
but ops tend to delete that..
so I frakken well bleepin bleppy fraggie /sign this sheeznat.
If your installing in a pos, with implants you often need to adjust runs up or down by 1, now it's a HUGE PAIN IN MY buttox.
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Meardon I
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Posted - 2011.05.24 12:58:00 -
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yeah... For example, at an invention, if i forget to load the decryptor, i have to start the invention all over again, because it closes the entire process...
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Caroline Lust
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Posted - 2011.05.24 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Saratonias
Additionally, canceling a quote no longer takes you back to the assembly-line/quantity dialog so that you can reduce your number of runs if you're satisfied with making less of an item that you were short of mats on, or if you're trying to adjust the number of runs to meet your sleep cycle. Instead it completely cancels you out, requiring blueprint and assembly-line reselection.
No more time balancing without headaches indeed.
Fixing one and breaking two other things is called regressing instead of progressing!
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