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Serajaya
Minmatar The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
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Posted - 2011.05.19 18:01:00 -
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So that's what everyone with the research skill at 5 getting now. Doesn't sound like a lot of diversity... |
Dinatra
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Posted - 2011.05.19 18:03:00 -
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173 at lvl 4
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.05.19 18:04:00 -
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Four agent divisions. Doesn't sound like a lot of diversity... --------
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Serajaya
Minmatar The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
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Posted - 2011.05.19 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dinatra 173 at lvl 4
null sec? |
sableye
principle of motion
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Posted - 2011.05.19 18:09:00 -
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my level 3 agents get 142.10 and level 4's 185.60 with level 4 skill ----------------------------------------- View The North Star! In All Its Glory!!
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Dinatra
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Posted - 2011.05.19 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Serajaya
Originally by: Dinatra 173 at lvl 4
null sec?
Nope gallente high sec, 172.8 to be precise.
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.05.19 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmatiko on 19/05/2011 18:20:53 259 with lvl 4 skills in highsec. This is good or bad? Just started research jobs week ago. Was 256.
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Serajaya
Minmatar The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
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Posted - 2011.05.19 18:19:00 -
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Oh wait. Isn't there a multipier to certain research areas? I'm talking 1x. Or did I miss something here? |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.05.19 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 19/05/2011 20:26:52
ALL R&D agents of a certain level are now Q+20 agents with the access standings requirements of Q-20 agents. The Negotiations skill seems to have been fixed compared to the SiSi build, so L5 nego plus maxed-out standings for the agent (you now DO get standings increases for running missions for those agents) should translate into Q+55 agents. At L5 in relevant skills and a L4 agent, with a x1 field multiplier, that should translate into 125.55 RP/day.
P.S. 113.40 RP/Day is what you get from a L4 x1 field multiplier agent for which you never ran any missions since the change that made it possible to gain standings with them, and you only have L4 negotiations trained on top of L5 relevant science skill. _
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Rachel Tam
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Posted - 2011.05.19 20:31:00 -
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ooh 102.52 RP/day with a lvl1 agent - nice!
Pity my lvl2 and 3's are worse!
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.05.19 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Rachel Tam ooh 102.52 RP/day with a lvl1 agent - nice! Pity my lvl2 and 3's are worse!
This is pretty meaningless without the field multiplier (or the actual field name, so we know what field multiplier it has). Datacores cost 50 * field multiplier RP, so that datacores/day is the same regardless of field, given same skills and agent level. _
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Kasriel
Caldari Nadyr Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.05.19 21:07:00 -
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Edited by: Kasriel on 19/05/2011 21:09:06 my R+D agents as follows (all relevant skills are maxed)
Mech engineering x3 all at 92.80 Caldari Starship Engineers x2 both at 352.35
dunno about agent standings though had them for ages
oh and my alt with mech engineering at level 4 and negotiation at 5 and no missions run for these agents
2x Mech engineering 71.05 ----------
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Apollo Gabriel
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.05.19 21:18:00 -
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There was no diversity to begin with, acknowledging it was a good thing.
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Serajaya
Minmatar The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
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Posted - 2011.05.19 21:40:00 -
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What type of missions do R&D agents offer post patch? |
Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.05.19 22:10:00 -
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/sigh
And this after we were told that R&D agents wouldn't be touched.
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.05.19 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn /sigh
And this after we were told that R&D agents wouldn't be touched.
Heh. S.O.P. for CCP, tbh. Their internal documentation and understanding of what their developers are doing can't be very good considering all the **** that breaks or sneaks through to the live server. Any IT project manager worth a dime would be embarrassed to be associated with CCP's execution of their patches.
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Holy One
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Posted - 2011.05.19 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: Holy One on 19/05/2011 22:26:04 ccp have totally skanked me. best mechanical engineering agents in the game (previously). level v mech eng. level 4 agents now give me .. 113 rp per day x 2 and 89.0.
thanks a lot ccp.
*picards
way to reward all those hrs spent grinding standings ..
BBQ makes me hungry for more... |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.05.19 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 19/05/2011 22:26:08
Originally by: Serajaya What type of missions do R&D agents offer post patch?
Same as before. Move this garbage, fetch me some tritanium, stuff like that.
Originally by: Mara Rinn And this after we were told that R&D agents wouldn't be touched.
The one above is what they actually meant _
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Holy One
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Posted - 2011.05.19 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kasriel Edited by: Kasriel on 19/05/2011 21:09:06 my R+D agents as follows (all relevant skills are maxed)
Mech engineering x3 all at 92.80 Caldari Starship Engineers x2 both at 352.35
dunno about agent standings though had them for ages
oh and my alt with mech engineering at level 4 and negotiation at 5 and no missions run for these agents
2x Mech engineering 71.05
looks like the mech eng/boundless creation/duvolle labs dudes go screwed then. when guys are getting 100+ with level 3 skills ffs.
BBQ makes me hungry for more... |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.05.19 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Holy One looks like the mech eng/boundless creation/duvolle labs dudes go screwed then. when guys are getting 100+ with level 3 skills ffs.
You do know that starship tech datacores cost 150 RP, while mecheng cores cost 50 RP, don't you ? Nobody got screwed. ALL RP GAINS GOT BOOSTED. Only exceptions would be previously Q+20 agents (if any existed, can't recall), they would have now exactly the same gains as before. The largest gains were for previously very negative quality agents, and the smallest gains were from previously high quality agents. _
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Holy One
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Posted - 2011.05.19 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Holy One looks like the mech eng/boundless creation/duvolle labs dudes go screwed then. when guys are getting 100+ with level 3 skills ffs.
You do know that starship tech datacores cost 150 RP, while mecheng cores cost 50 RP, don't you ? Nobody got screwed. ALL RP GAINS GOT BOOSTED. Only exceptions would be previously Q+20 agents (if any existed, can't recall), they would have now exactly the same gains as before. The largest gains were for previously very negative quality agents, and the smallest gains were from previously high quality agents.
nope. but thats the great thing about being lazy and angry. you always pop up to be informative.
BBQ makes me hungry for more... |
Khanid Voltar
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Posted - 2011.05.20 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
At L5 in relevant skills and a L4 agent, with a x1 field multiplier, that should translate into 125.55 RP/day.
With L5 Mech Eng, and L5 Negotiation my 3 L4 R&D agents are giving me 117.45; what skill am I missing to bring that up to 125.55 Akita?
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Virtue Maulerant
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Posted - 2011.05.20 15:15:00 -
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Edited by: Virtue Maulerant on 20/05/2011 15:15:26
Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 19/05/2011 20:26:52
ALL R&D agents of a certain level are now Q+20 agents with the access standings requirements of Q-20 agents. The Negotiations skill seems to have been fixed compared to the SiSi build, so L5 nego plus maxed-out standings for the agent (you now DO get standings increases for running missions for those agents) should translate into Q+55 agents. At L5 in relevant skills and a L4 agent, with a x1 field multiplier, that should translate into 125.55 RP/day.
P.S. 113.40 RP/Day is what you get from a L4 x1 field multiplier agent for which you never ran any missions since the change that made it possible to gain standings with them, and you only have L4 negotiations trained on top of L5 relevant science skill.
Hold on there,my level 4 R&D agents with the relevant skill at 4 are producing 89.60/day with a 6.7 standing. I've talked to them to "update" the rate but it's nowhere near as why as what people are reporting for the x1 fields...
EDIT: Negotiation 4 as well...
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Khanid Voltar
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Posted - 2011.05.20 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Virtue Maulerant
Hold on there,my level 4 R&D agents with the relevant skill at 4 are producing 89.60/day with a 6.7 standing. I've talked to them to "update" the rate but it's nowhere near as why as what people are reporting for the x1 fields...
EDIT: Negotiation 4 as well...
Something definitely wrong then, as my L3 Mch Eng agent is now giving me 93.x per day... not trying to smack you but you sure they aren't L3 agents?
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Anddeh McNab
Cadre Assault Force
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Posted - 2011.05.20 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Khanid Voltar
Originally by: Virtue Maulerant
Hold on there,my level 4 R&D agents with the relevant skill at 4 are producing 89.60/day with a 6.7 standing. I've talked to them to "update" the rate but it's nowhere near as why as what people are reporting for the x1 fields...
EDIT: Negotiation 4 as well...
Something definitely wrong then, as my L3 Mch Eng agent is now giving me 93.x per day... not trying to smack you but you sure they aren't L3 agents?
Ditto for me, my level 4 agent is giving me 89.60 RP/day with relevant skill IV and nego IV. I may go give him a slap upside the head at some point. There are two sides to the EVE community; those that scream for change and those that scream against it. Often they are the same person. |
RaTTuS
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.20 15:48:00 -
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it's been a while since I checked... but here goes ...
Level 4, Starship 5, negotiation 5, 356.39 Level 4, Starship 5, negotiation 5, 356.29 Level 4, Starship 5, negotiation 4, 340.38 Level 4, Starship 5, negotiation 4, 340.20 Level 4, Nuclear Physics 4, negotiation 4, 179.2 Level 4, Nuclear Physics 4, negotiation 4, 179.2 Level 3, Nuclear Physics 4, negotiation 4, 137.2 Level 4, Mechanical 5, negotiation 4, 113.4 Level 4, Mechanical 5, negotiation 4, 113.4 Level 3, Plasma Physics 3, negotiation 3, 97.2 Level 4, Electromagnetic Physics 4, negotiation 5, 92.8 Level 4, Electronic Engineering 4, negotiation 5, 92.8 Level 3, Mechanical 5, negotiation 4, 89.6 Level 4, Hydromagnetic Physics 4, negotiation 4, 89.6 Level 3, Mechanical 4, negotiation 4, 89.6 Level 4, Graviton Physics 4, negotiation 5, 85.6 Level 3, Electromagnetic Physics 4, negotiation 3, 66.15 Level 3, Electromagnetic Physics 4, negotiation 3, 66.15 Level 4, Quantum Physics 3, negotiation 3, 66.15 Level 3, Electronic Engineering 4, negotiation 3, 66.15 Level 2, Electronic Engineering 3, negotiation 3, 33.75 Level 2, Electromagnetic Physics 3, negotiation 3, 33.75 Level 2, Mechanical Engineering 3, negotiation 3, 33.75 Level 1, Hydromagnetic Physics 3, negotiation 0, 19.2
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Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr Indicium Technologies Hephaestus Forge Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.20 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: Solomunio Kzenig on 20/05/2011 16:09:19
I'm a relative n00b to the whole datacore field but my 1 L4 agent gives me about 105 R/P's per day, up from 104 per day when I ran a mission for them, Negotiation at V and relevent Engineering skill at IV. I was wondering if I grind the 1 R&D mission per day will my RP ammount grow by around 1 RP a day? Would training the relevent Engineering Skill(s) to V increase the RP and how high could you technically go for R/P per day?
I know AKita T will know .
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Brock Nelson
Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.
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Posted - 2011.05.20 16:13:00 -
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Since Quality is suppose to be +20, I'm kind of stumped as to why my RP gain is down compared to pre-patch...
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