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Anakin Pubcrawler
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Posted - 2011.05.19 19:42:00 -
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Started an alt tonight and started running through tutorial missions for the standing. Gains much faster since the patch today - after just the first 2 mission chain and of the 5 tutor series I have gained 1.42 gallente, much more than last week when I ran another alt through the same process. No social skills at all yet. Connections three will get that to around 2.5.
If even some of the next four tutor groups, the data centre missions and the Sisters arc are giving enhanced standing gains then this charcter will be flying level 3 courier missions almost instantly.
Not sure if this is intentional but level 1 and 2 agents appear to have become almost pointless, at least for your sart faction and friendlies.
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Anakin Pubcrawler
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Posted - 2011.05.19 20:06:00 -
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Ok - this is now silly.
Last week a I took an alt through 3 of the 5 tutor missions, plus the data centre set plus the sisters arc. After all that and connections 3 he finshed on 2.4 standing to his home faction.
My new alt - no social skills. Hours old. Initial 2 tutor missions, mining/industry tutor set, business tutor set only. At 2.28 Gallente already - will be past 3 before the evening is out and able to collect any gallente level 3 mission, and any mini or sisters level 2. With connections I will be offred level 4s on completion of the sisters arc.
Grinding standing on new characters now a thing of the past.
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stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.19 20:21:00 -
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Here's my guess:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Missions_guide
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When you complete a mission you will get a base standing increase, which will depend on the perceived difficulty of the mission. This base number is used to calculate the agent and corporation standing increase and is modified by how high you've trained your "Social" skill level.
The "perceived difficulty" of the tutorial missions might have been reset (which also affects LP and mission payout.) As more people run the mission, the payouts get adjusted.
Has anyone noticed if the payouts for missions have been reset (e.g. AE payout will be lower than normal and the Recon missions will be higher than normal.)
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Anakin Pubcrawler
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Posted - 2011.05.19 20:23:00 -
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Cash rewards and bonuses seem about right - just the standings gains are nuts - 10% for each completed tutor set.
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Roh Voleto
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Posted - 2011.05.20 00:08:00 -
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It seems like storyline missions have been broken or significantly buffed with the latest update.
I just did an easy lvl3 encounter storyline and received over 40% corp, and 10% faction standing. On top of that, one of the rats dropped a faction item.
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Mister Rocknrolla
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Posted - 2011.05.20 03:20:00 -
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Just did a level 2 mission and went from .05 to 1.4 standing. Standard mission.
I think the tweaks to the agents messed up the standings rewards. I expect an 'adjustment' in the next day or two.
Grind those standings fast while you can. It's like a double-xp weekend!
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Murtal Liven
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Posted - 2011.05.20 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: stoicfaux
Here's my guess:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Missions_guide
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When you complete a mission you will get a base standing increase, which will depend on the perceived difficulty of the mission. This base number is used to calculate the agent and corporation standing increase and is modified by how high you've trained your "Social" skill level.
The "perceived difficulty" of the tutorial missions might have been reset (which also affects LP and mission payout.) As more people run the mission, the payouts get adjusted.
Has anyone noticed if the payouts for missions have been reset (e.g. AE payout will be lower than normal and the Recon missions will be higher than normal.)
Ran both of these today - AE paid just over 2m counting the bonus/standard reward and each of the Recon missions paid slightly over 2m counting bonus/standard reward. My standings also went from like 8.7 to 9.1, and this is with sharing my standings with about 7 fleet mates.
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Deus Toran
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Posted - 2011.05.20 05:28:00 -
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Just ran Whispers in the Dark, level 2. The final mission gave me 28.756 standing! This has to be busted as in bug, or else it's busted as in way too easy. I would think they would have at least announced something like this. 0.00 -> 6.11 Ishukone standings today on an alt in 18 level 2 kill missions. Didn't even realize it until the storyline mission.
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Full Penetration
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Posted - 2011.05.20 07:21:00 -
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As I am a bit new to missions, I would be the first to say I'am not an expert by anymeans. However spent the two days before the patch grinding standing and only gaining rougly 2.15 standing with Connections II. Today, spent ~5 hours and have gotten over 7.7 standing. This just does not seem right making this drastic of a change to (what looked like) terrible grinding.
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Alain Kinsella
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.20 09:09:00 -
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You don't even need to run missions to get a bump from what I can see.
Most of my faction standings got bumped by (on average) one full point without touching a single mission. Various corp standings do not seem to be affected as drastically, if at all.
I'm definitely going to head over and finish the L1 Epic this weekend, should be interesting to see what happens given the discussion here.
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Niccy
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Posted - 2011.05.20 10:55:00 -
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Man, I thought I was going crazy..
Standing increase is insane as it is, while I am not complaining while it lasts, they really should fix this.
I took a few days to get my creodron faction up to 2.2 or something, after a three maybe four easy missions last night it was well over 3.00...
This is a little too much imho...
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Darkshinez
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Posted - 2011.05.20 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Darkshinez on 20/05/2011 12:39:07
Indeed the increase is crazy, no need to grind for days anymore ..
I just took this alt and did only the tutorial mission for gallente (the serie of 2 mission, 1kill + 1 courrier). Each serie gives 5.6% faction standing. After doing 9 series (which takes about an hour), I was able to go from 0.0 to 5.0 standing with gallente (with connection 3) unlocking all mission level 4 :D
List of agents is here for anyone wanting a quick increase while it lasts : http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Tutorial_Agents
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Rustynail79
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Posted - 2011.05.20 14:38:00 -
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Edited by: Rustynail79 on 20/05/2011 14:39:05
Originally by: Alain Kinsella
You don't even need to run missions to get a bump from what I can see.
Most of my faction standings got bumped by (on average) one full point without touching a single mission. Various corp standings do not seem to be affected as drastically, if at all.
I'm definitely going to head over and finish the L1 Epic this weekend, should be interesting to see what happens given the discussion here.
I must be getting screwed right over then as my security storyline agent just gave me a courier mission and ive got no bump at all in my standings 
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.20 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Rustynail79
I must be getting screwed right over then as my security storyline agent just gave me a courier mission and ive got no bump at all in my standings
EDIT: A very nice person within a minute of me making a petition sorted out the security agent giving me a courier mission (they gave me a nice pirate mission)
Pretty sure I saw some one-line dev post saying that storyline agent mission pools are unchanged so even though they show the new divisions they can give courier or combat. I just got a combat mission from a now distribution storyline agent and besides IĘm pretty sure there arenĘt any mining storyline missions unless you count Mats for War Prep which is labeled as a Trade mission anyway. IĘd say you got lucky with a GM that didnĘt know whatĘs what.
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As for standings gains itĘs not just tutorial missions, all the missions IĘve done show significant standings gain increases, it seems like its more than the extra 8 quality points I get should account for but maybe not, cba to check.
Lvl 4 social at 5
Blockade 4.6538% to 6.375%
Infiltrated Outposts 4.2328% to 5.7943%
Massive Attack 2.6459% to 3.6246%
Stop the Thief 1.9841% to 2.7178%
(Too bad I already display at 10 with that corp)
There was a huge jump in standings gains from a storyline mission, perhaps storyline agents went from no quality to +20 as well.
Lvl 4 combat storyline
Faction 8.75% to 12.5%
Corp 25% to 35.7143%
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Voddick
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Posted - 2011.05.20 20:41:00 -
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Edited by: Vod**** on 20/05/2011 20:42:25
I just finished the Amarr lvl 4 Epic arc and the *Faction* standings gain was 95%!!!!
This is broken...clearly.
edit: added word - faction
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Rustynail79
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Posted - 2011.05.20 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Hockston Axe
Pretty sure I saw some one-line dev post saying that storyline agent mission pools are unchanged so even though they show the new divisions they can give courier or combat. I just got a combat mission from a now distribution storyline agent and besides IĘm pretty sure there arenĘt any mining storyline missions unless you count Mats for War Prep which is labeled as a Trade mission anyway. IĘd say you got lucky with a GM that didnĘt know whatĘs what.
Well i actually asked repeatedly in the help channel yesterday when there was both a CCP and ISD person in the channel helping people. Neither of them replied to my question but when i asked again today a couple of people that regulary help out said all security agents should give out combat mission even if they are storyline agents.
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Anakin Pubcrawler
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Posted - 2011.05.20 21:30:00 -
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At current rate of progress my new alt will have sufficient standings for level 4 missions with gallente, minmatar and sisters, gained solely from tutor ands very basic storylines - the circle and data centre ones. Currently around 3.5 with all three and with tutor missions still to run.
Still have some tutorials and the sisters rc to do. No connections skills learned to this point.
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Gordun Gecko
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Posted - 2011.05.20 22:28:00 -
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I did Serpentis Ship Builders L4(storyline mission) after the Incursion 1.5 patch. The mission was given to me by a Astral Mining Inc. storyline agent, and it ended up gaving me +11.2204% with Gallente faction, +28.051% with Astral Mining, Inc., +56.102% with the agent, and -4.0727% with Caldari faction.
I know that a lot of the "new" storyline missions (the ones they added about 5 months ago) give very good standing increases, but this took my Astral Mining Inc. standing 1.50(ish) to 6.45 with one storyline mission. Which is basically like jumping from being able to get level 1 missions to level 4 missions with that corp. The only storyline mission I ever had close to that is "A Special Delivery", which I had almost exactly a month ago, that gave +8% faction and +24% corp standing increases iirc.
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.20 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rustynail79
Well i actually asked repeatedly in the help channel yesterday when there was both a CCP and ISD person in the channel helping people. Neither of them replied to my question but when i asked again today a couple of people that regulary help out said all security agents should give out combat mission even if they are storyline agents.
Found it here.
Originally by: Zaknussem
And another related topic, what about storyline agents? Will they continue to hand out randomly-determined missions from the whole pool of storyline missions, or will their pool of possible missions be limited by their division, as according to these changes?
Originally by: CCP Tallest
Storyline agents will hand out the same missions that they used to.
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Mister Rocknrolla
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Posted - 2011.05.21 04:31:00 -
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This is sure making getting that R&D alt up and running much easier.
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Doctor Badger
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.21 05:35:00 -
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Encryption Code Book (2 of 2) -- this is the absolute first tutorial mission, even before the career agents -- is giving out 5.8327% increase with Social 5. That's not even 5 minutes of work  |
Anakin Pubcrawler
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Posted - 2011.05.21 08:39:00 -
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Edited by: Anakin Pubcrawler on 21/05/2011 08:39:56
My new alt now has jump clone access with FNA, just from tutor missions. Less than 2 days old. 6+ standings to gal and min, 5+ to sisters. No levels in connections skill yet either.
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Aston Martin DB5
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Posted - 2011.05.21 17:19:00 -
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Yes, standings do need to be nerfed for npc corps.
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Anakin Pubcrawler
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Posted - 2011.05.21 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Aston Martin DB5
Yes, standings do need to be nerfed for npc corps.
not just npc corps - the same standings gains apply to the main corps as well
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stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.21 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Doctor Badger
Encryption Code Book (2 of 2) -- this is the absolute first tutorial mission, even before the career agents -- is giving out 5.8327% increase with Social 5. That's not even 5 minutes of work
And there are multiple agents (4-5 for Caldari) who give out that Endless Battle set of missions. (Works once per agent.)
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-- Eve, the game of Alts, Economics, Machiavelli, and PvP"
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