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Holdout
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Posted - 2011.05.19 22:52:00 -
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I've been flying caldari with shields/missiles only for a while and want to branch into amarr for armor/lasers. I'm just starting amarr cruiser skill today, and medium energy turrets.
Assuming I want to learn to use these ships on missions for a while, which frigate --> cruiser --> BC --> BS route should I take? Just looking for suggestions, as I'll probably try a bunch of different ships out. It would be nice to know which are absolute crap right off the bat, and which are the best in class.
Thanks!
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Captain Nares
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Posted - 2011.05.19 23:04:00 -
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Take a look at Nightmare. Raven pilot + amarr BS + large energy turrets = NM pilot.
Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus: 7.5% bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking per level
Caldari Battleship Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Large Energy Turret damage per level
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2011.05.19 23:29:00 -
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Punisher ---> Arbitrator ---> Harbinger ---> Apocalypse ---> Abaddon/Nightmare/Paladin/Whatever.
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Saile Litestrider
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Posted - 2011.05.19 23:30:00 -
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I took this same route a while back when I discovered that I hated the raven with a passion that defies logic.
As far as frigates, it doesn't matter much. The executioner or punisher should both be able to handle any level 1. Once you get into cruisers, it changes a bit. Your standard Amarr pilot would likely pick the maller, or maybe the omen. As a cross-training Caldari, however, I'd recommend the arbitrator. Fit it like a drake, with a big fat passive shield tank, and it will take a ridiculous amount of punishment, it should be able to handle 3s too in this sort of setup assuming you have good shield skills.
The harbinger is the go-to BC for Amarr, it's a fantastic ship. You can even fit a passable shield tank on it if you really want to, just don't tell anyone you're doing so for pve. The armor tank is definitely preferable for missions if you have the skills.
Once you get to battleships, you're going to have to armor tank, there's really no other way. The armageddon really isn't worth looking at for PvE, it's simply too hard to fit enough damage and tank. Its navy version can be quite nice if you have fantastic laser and drone skills though. The Abaddon is a great ship, but I feel it's designed more toward buffer tanking. It's a bit difficult to maintain an active tank and a good rack of lasers. The apoc on the other hand is very easy to fit comparatively. Cap stability is extremely attainable, and what it loses in raw damage it makes up for with its range bonus, which means you'll be using multifrequency farther out (not just more damage, but more thermal damage, which can make all the difference in some cases). It's really a toss up between the abaddon and apoc, but personally I'd choose the apoc, especially if you're new to Amarr BSes.
After this point you can finally move on to the ship you'll be pretty much custom-skilled to fly, the Nightmare. It will blow sansha/blood missions away like nothing else, and you'll only have to pulse your tank a few times in all but the toughest missions. It's a real joy to fly.
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2011.05.20 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Zhilia Mann on 20/05/2011 00:36:44
 Originally by: Holdout
which frigate -->
Seriously consider a Slicer. It is by far the best Amarr frigate available.
Originally by: Holdout
cruiser -->
As already mentioned, the Arbitrator is a great ship for missions and decent for PvP. In general the T1 cruiser lineup is lacking.
Edit: or the Phantasm. It's not the best ship around these days but it's also not horrible at missions and can still be somewhat respectable elsewhere.
Originally by: Holdout
BC -->
Harbinger. Make sure you get T2 pulses as soon as possible. It's a great ship that's relatively easy to make work.
Originally by: Holdout
BS
Apocalypse for missions to start with. Or at least that's the standard advice. Abaddon can work but the lack of range can be frustrating -- and the tachyon fit is hard to work with if you're not used to paying very close attention to capacitor.
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David Clausewitz
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.20 03:58:00 -
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for cruiser / lvl2's the Omen works fine too if you don't want to fly the Arb
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Holdout
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Posted - 2011.05.20 04:42:00 -
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Thanks for all the info! I appreciate it.
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Forum Troll Trolling
Forum Trolling Corp
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Posted - 2011.05.20 09:12:00 -
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oh god...
DONT EVERY TELL ANYONE THAT THE OMEN IS GOOD!!!
the coercer outperforms it for less SP and cost
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2011.05.20 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Forum Troll Trolling
oh god...
DONT EVERY TELL ANYONE THAT THE OMEN IS GOOD!!!
the coercer outperforms it for less SP and cost
This. The Omen is worthless compared to the Arbitrator, especially for people with low SP.
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Potato IQ
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Posted - 2011.05.20 13:03:00 -
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And if you want to sit in some of the best looking ships the game offers, look at the command ships. They are also not just a pretty face
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