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Kerianna SaintCroix
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Posted - 2011.05.22 01:28:00 -
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I'm at the point where I'm getting zero waste for my ore, but how about regular items? I took a quick look through evemon for relevant skills but the only thing I came up was refinery efficiency. Is there a skill directly related to reducing the waste from reprocessing every day items that drop from NPC rats?
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Belloche
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Revelation Exploration Inc.
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Posted - 2011.05.22 01:38:00 -
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Scrapmetal processing is the skill you are looking for. It is a very long train. Use eve search to find a number of threads that tell you what implants you can use instead of having to train the skill.
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Lagruna Zegata
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Posted - 2011.05.22 04:20:00 -
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Yes, scrapmetal processing level 1 plus NPC corp standings (+6.67 or more) would be all that's needed for perfect refines at 50% stations, just like ice processing and all the ore processings AFAIK. You will need much higher scrapmetal skill for sub-standard facilities. Even scrapmetal 5 won't give 100% refines in the worst circumstances.
There is a "Beancounter" implant of some type that can improve refine %'s, but 40 minutes of training for scrapmetal 1 seems less of a hassle (on top of having a free hardwire slot for other things.)
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Belloche
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Revelation Exploration Inc.
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Posted - 2011.05.22 13:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Lagruna Zegata
There is a "Beancounter" implant of some type that can improve refine %'s, but 40 minutes of training for scrapmetal 1 seems less of a hassle (on top of having a free hardwire slot for other things.)
The 40 minutes to get to lvl 1 was not the long train time I was referring to. It was the pre-req's for scrapmetal processing such as refinery efficiency V and metallurgy to V which both are rank 3 skill plus science 4. When you can save 20 + days of training by using a single implant(not totally correct). Akita has done a nice write up on it in a number of previous threads and you can look in hlada's mining guide for a chart as to what your skill lvl's and implants are at and what facilities will get you 100% refine. use eve-search, it is your friend.
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Clintus McGintus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 18:16:00 -
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so, if I have good standings with the corp im stationed at I don't need scrapmetal processing that high? I have it at lvl 4 at the moment and am not seeing any waste when I refine. I assumed that lvl 5 would possibly help when I was processing larger items where there might be more waste. Please clarify if you could about how that works. Thanks.
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Ruziel
Minmatar
Twilight Military Industrial Complex
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Clintus McGintus
so, if I have good standings with the corp im stationed at I don't need scrapmetal processing that high? I have it at lvl 4 at the moment and am not seeing any waste when I refine. I assumed that lvl 5 would possibly help when I was processing larger items where there might be more waste. Please clarify if you could about how that works. Thanks.
No, the higher standings only removes the up to 5% tax that is on top of any waste from (lack of) skills. The "Unrecoverable" column is waste from not having perfect refining skills, the "We Take" column is the tax from having less that 6.67 standing.
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Clintus McGintus
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ruziel
Originally by: Clintus McGintus
so, if I have good standings with the corp im stationed at I don't need scrapmetal processing that high? I have it at lvl 4 at the moment and am not seeing any waste when I refine. I assumed that lvl 5 would possibly help when I was processing larger items where there might be more waste. Please clarify if you could about how that works. Thanks.
No, the higher standings only removes the up to 5% tax that is on top of any waste from (lack of) skills. The "Unrecoverable" column is waste from not having perfect refining skills, the "We Take" column is the tax from having less that 6.67 standing.
so then what does scrapmetal processing help with?
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Ruziel
Minmatar
Twilight Military Industrial Complex
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:44:00 -
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Edited by: Ruziel on 24/06/2011 23:49:26
Originally by: Clintus McGintus
so then what does scrapmetal processing help with?
It reduces the waste from lack of skills. Think of it as the equivalent of Veldspar Processing or the other ore specific skills, except that it applies to reprocessing ships, modules, drone compounds and other things that aren't ore.
If you don't have the aforementioned implant that helps with refining yield, you need at least level one in Scrapmetal Processing to get rid that last 0.5% of skill based waste at a 50% base refine station.
Higher levels will help with refining at stations with lower base refines.
See this chart, and substitue the Ore Processing level for Scrapmetal Processing when working with non-ores: http://www.eve-wiki.net/images/9/93/Reprocessing_tables.PNG
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