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Hermosa Diosas
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.05.22 15:16:00 -
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Over the years I have become increasingly bemused by what CCPs vision for eve is.
Where is eve heading? Personally it seems for large 0.0 warfare with low and high sec just peripheries to the game.
But it just seems the development of eve is pretty adhoc, I would really like to get an official response on where CCP sees eve in 5 years time, so I can determine whether to keep wasting my money or not.
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Takita Yukida
Quo Vadis Domine
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Posted - 2011.05.22 15:19:00 -
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This is an easy one: EVE: A future vision
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S'qarpium D'igil
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Posted - 2011.05.22 15:20:00 -
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As it is, 0.0 is boring and stale. Anything CCP does to shake things up can only help at this point.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2011.05.22 15:38:00 -
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Minigames!
Secure 3rd party service | my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' |
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Josefius
Gallente
JOKAS Industries
Matari Legion
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Posted - 2011.05.22 15:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Chribba
Minigames!
I have fond memories of playing Maniac Mansion in the game Day of the Tenticle via a Commodore 64 in one of the bedrooms.
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Rixiu
The Inuits
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Posted - 2011.05.22 15:43:00 -
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RMT... oh, I mean microtransactions!
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.05.22 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Minigames!
Yeah, that's what EVE is starting to look like. A coagulation of minigames, roughly stitched together under the one server premise, only skin deep, giving a semblance of depth but lacking any meat or bones.
Going wide, going far, but instead of the Deep Sea of Awesome you have a puddle of ****.
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InUrJita CheckinUrPrice
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Posted - 2011.05.22 16:29:00 -
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All games are functionally minigames spliced together. Yo've got the story, the the combat, the character stuff, the equipment. Plus lock picking games. Each of which is a separate experience coexisting with the others for the purpose of providing the player with a multitude of ways to while away their time in a single box.
The cohesive experience of games like Super Mario Bros is a figment of history.
CCP's baby is interesting for the connective tissue that links the disparate elements. They do not merely coexist, or affect the experience of a single player. Instead, the actions of the players of the industrial subgame directly impacts the subgame players of pvp and trading, and vv.
That's nifty. CCP's actions over the last few expansions have been directed at deepening that connective tissue. So I'd guess that'd be their vision: a world where every action by one player has a meaningful impact on other players.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.05.22 17:20:00 -
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Yes its called
"WOW in space!!"
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Lurtz
Caldari
Gunrunners and Gamblers
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Posted - 2011.05.23 21:37:00 -
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$$$$$$
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Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr
Indicium Technologies
Hephaestus Forge Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.23 21:58:00 -
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CCP's vision is to milk EVE as a cash cow so that they can make a game about ***got vampires.
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Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.05.23 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Solomunio Kzenig
CCP's vision is to milk EVE as a cash cow so that they can make a game about ***got vampires.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.05.24 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Takita Yukida
This is an easy one: EVE: A future vision
lol
Got problems with customer complaints about dev resources being allocated to other games for years at a time?
Answer: Release a trailer saying the product you're neglecting has a future.
That trailer is the biggest indictment on the sad state of CCP.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.05.24 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Originally by: Takita Yukida
This is an easy one: EVE: A future vision
lol
Got problems with customer complaints about dev resources being allocated to other games for years at a time?
Answer: Release a trailer saying the product you're neglecting has a future.
That trailer is the biggest indictment on the sad state of CCP.
Well, you can't say CCP lacks vision.. they lack focus yeah, but not vision 
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Kerrisone
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Posted - 2011.05.24 00:44:00 -
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Go over to www.facebook.com EVE will be like that but with spaceships and avatars you can dress up for money.
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Uuali
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Posted - 2011.05.24 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Takita Yukida
This is an easy one: EVE: A future vision
That video has been proven to be fake. That is not officially sanctioned by CCP. Some dufus threw that one together and unlawfully slapped CCP's logo on it. Litigation is pending.
No, CCP does not have a vision let alone a FUTURE vision. Whatever the CSM complains about in regards to null sec is the next logical step taken.
Just FYI. No word 'til World of Darkness comes out. Or as I like to call it ù World of Not Live Action Role Play Anymore.
Lols!
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.05.24 02:54:00 -
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Eve is set in the future so it knows what's going to happen
Originally by: Xenuria
I don't need a LICENSE to take a photoshooped image and lay it on top of the game client and make pretend my character is naked.
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Apollo Gabriel
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.05.24 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Uuali
Originally by: Takita Yukida
This is an easy one: EVE: A future vision
That video has been proven to be fake. That is not officially sanctioned by CCP. Some dufus threw that one together and unlawfully slapped CCP's logo on it. Litigation is pending.
No, CCP does not have a vision let alone a FUTURE vision. Whatever the CSM complains about in regards to null sec is the next logical step taken.
Just FYI. No word 'til World of Darkness comes out. Or as I like to call it ù World of Not Live Action Role Play Anymore.
Lols!
lol, ask for their birth certificates now! Come on man, CCP released the video and advertised it on their homepage, you tool.
***** Signature may appear without warning! *****
Please do not feed the trolls, it builds dependency.
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Esu Nahalas
Yote Patrol
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Posted - 2011.05.24 03:01:00 -
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Every once in a while, and more often than I'd like to admit, I see a thread headline that is simply boneheaded. "Does CCP have a vision for eve?" is one of them. I mean, how stupid can you possibly be? CCP has a vision by definition. Just because you disagree with it doesn't make it cease to exist.
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Shira Elan
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Posted - 2011.05.24 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Apollo Gabriel
Originally by: Uuali
Originally by: Takita Yukida
This is an easy one: EVE: A future vision
That video has been proven to be fake. That is not officially sanctioned by CCP. Some dufus threw that one together and unlawfully slapped CCP's logo on it. Litigation is pending.
No, CCP does not have a vision let alone a FUTURE vision. Whatever the CSM complains about in regards to null sec is the next logical step taken.
Just FYI. No word 'til World of Darkness comes out. Or as I like to call it ù World of Not Live Action Role Play Anymore.
Lols!
lol, ask for their birth certificates now! Come on man, CCP released the video and advertised it on their homepage, you tool.
I sent my people to Iceland and CCP wouldn't show me the original tape. They only had the short form.
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Cyn0 A17
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Posted - 2011.05.24 03:39:00 -
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Going by the last few patches, it is to make highsec far more desirable then 0.0 |
Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.05.24 03:43:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 24/05/2011 03:44:11
Originally by: Uuali
That video has been proven to be fake. That is not officially sanctioned by CCP.
lol I guess that's why you just linked the official CCP youtube channel.
edit: And yes.... It is super funny that CCP think a trailer saying "future" is more productive then actually working on EveOnline in preference to WoD and DUST. |
Uuali
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Posted - 2011.05.24 06:58:00 -
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lol, ask for their birth certificates now! Come on man, CCP released the video and advertised it on their homepage, you tool.
Lol, OMG! Some 13 year old thought I was serious and called me a tool? I'm joking! Imagine a tool calling someone else a tool. Jeez, you young whippersnappers crack me up.
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Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus
S I L E N T.
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Posted - 2011.05.24 08:49:00 -
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CCP vision for EVE is milking the cow as much as it's physically possible and pray that enough people started to play World of Twilight by the time EVE dies so they survive as a company.
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ModeratedToSilence
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Posted - 2011.05.24 08:55:00 -
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Does CCP have a vision for the future of eve?
No.
No they don't.
Not at all.
The quality of the product has very little to do with the share price.
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Forum Troll Trolling
Forum Trolling Corp
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Posted - 2011.05.24 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: ModeratedToSilence
Does CCP have a vision for the future of eve?
No.
No they don't.
Not at all.
The quality of the product has very little to do with the share price.
i think they just picked it up and ran with it as if they stole it
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Jose Black
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.05.24 09:14:00 -
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I have seen a corporation have too much vision. It doesn't exist anymore.
That I used to be a shareholder is another unfortunate story.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2011.05.24 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Answer: Release a trailer saying the product you're neglecting has a future.
Am I the only one who got the duke nukem reference? Eve Forever... idk...
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.05.24 09:16:00 -
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Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 24/05/2011 09:16:53
*Edited for wall of text
Hold on a second... just remembered this week's margin trading whaaambulance needing thread and I had one of those things, a headache with pictures.
Margin trading can be a pain in the lower back sometimes so CCP should have an option for us level 5 margin trading haxxorz. Right click on a buy order and select to pay off the amount you'll owe when it gets filled anyway so you don't accidently all the ravens you were trying to buy
Originally by: Xenuria
I don't need a LICENSE to take a photoshooped image and lay it on top of the game client and make pretend my character is naked.
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Glyken Touchon
Gallente
Independent Alchemists
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Posted - 2011.05.24 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Uuali
Originally by: Takita Yukida
This is an easy one: EVE: A future vision
That video has been proven to be fake. That is not officially sanctioned by CCP. Some dufus threw that one together and unlawfully slapped CCP's logo on it. Litigation is pending.
source link?
Didn't think so..
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Originally by: CCP Veritas
In other words, I believe Dogma is doing stupid things, and I intend to beat the stupid out of it before considering giving it rocket boots.
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RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.24 11:28:00 -
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Sniped to say.!
I believe they do ...
though what it is ...
only they can say :-)
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Mon Maures
Minmatar
THE-DARK-WHEEL
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Posted - 2011.05.24 12:06:00 -
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I have a conspiracy theory:
I think CCP in some crazy half baked scheme actually thought it might be a good idea to have more than one product and turn a profit..... i know, it's far fetched, boardering on the ridiculous that a company might actually want to grow and earn more money. I mean, how dare they want to make a profit!
I'm in agreement with alot of people on the forums that I would prefer them to concentrate all their efforts on EVE and fulfilling the whims of every single one of their subscribers until they go broke. Please, CCP give up any pretentions you have to operate like a real company and face facts, the forum is all powerful and you should drop all development on your new projects and spend your days making every would be Darth Vader happy. 
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.05.25 01:43:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 25/05/2011 01:58:07
They were making a profit. They survived the GFC in one of the hardest hit countries of the world.
Maybe it's just that now they have to feed WhiteWolf as well as their own family.
Remember, if they lose Eve, they lose it all. There is no diversification without Eve.
Using the neglect of Eve to gain the resources needed to expand was a BIG mistake.
http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=400&h=220&o=f&c=1&y=r&b=ffffff&n=666666&r=2y&u=eveonline.com&
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Aeronwen Carys
Empire of Dust
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Posted - 2011.05.25 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas
Over the years I have become increasingly bemused by what CCPs vision for eve is.
Where is eve heading? Personally it seems for large 0.0 warfare with low and high sec just peripheries to the game.
But it just seems the development of eve is pretty adhoc, I would really like to get an official response on where CCP sees eve in 5 years time, so I can determine whether to keep wasting my money or not.
First up, if you consider it a waste of money now, then do us all a favour and quit. Secondly, CCP is a fairly large company with offices on three different continents, spending and investing tens of millions of dollars a year on their various projects. Of course they have a plan for where EVE is heading you utter idiot. Now stop making stupid threads asking stupid questions that have obvious answers.
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Scarlet des Loupes
Gallente
University of Caille
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Posted - 2011.05.25 05:01:00 -
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Originally by: Takita Yukida
This is an easy one: EVE: A future vision
That's not a vision, CCP never intended an interaction between DUST and EVE, especially not planetary bombardments.
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Astroka
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Posted - 2011.05.25 05:09:00 -
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Originally by: Scarlet des Loupes
CCP never intended an interaction between DUST and EVE
Confirming you have no idea what DUST 514 is.
Originally by: Ioci
Welcome to the bustedness of EVE.
1 guy can disband a 2000 man alliance and wipe out trillions, that's cool.
Give back a noob 10 mill? No, that's game breaking.
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Scarlet des Loupes
Gallente
University of Caille
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Posted - 2011.05.25 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Astroka
Originally by: Scarlet des Loupes
CCP never intended an interaction between DUST and EVE
Confirming you have no idea what DUST 514 is.
You do? They don't even use the same engine. Things like that vid will never happen.
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Astroka
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Posted - 2011.05.25 05:17:00 -
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Edited by: Astroka on 25/05/2011 05:18:26
Originally by: Scarlet des Loupes
Originally by: Astroka
Originally by: Scarlet des Loupes
CCP never intended an interaction between DUST and EVE
Confirming you have no idea what DUST 514 is.
You do? They don't even use the same engine. Things like that vid will never happen.
The entire point behind DUST 514 is for EVE players to hire DUST players (mercenaries) in order to capture strategic planetary installations, most likely impacting sovereignty and integrating with PI. Also, realize, since they don't use the same client - if something like orbital strikes was possible, then when it was performed on the EVE servers, it could happen simultaneously on the DUST 514 servers (assuming they don't run on the same servers - the whole point is for them to exist on one universe). Servers can ping other servers you know.
Have you paid any attention to what CCP is doing with DUST and just don't believe it's possible or are you assuming everything because you don't know anything about it?
EDIT: TL;DR: It is a console shooter MMO running in the EVE universe.
Originally by: Ioci
Welcome to the bustedness of EVE.
1 guy can disband a 2000 man alliance and wipe out trillions, that's cool.
Give back a noob 10 mill? No, that's game breaking.
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Scarlet des Loupes
Gallente
University of Caille
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Posted - 2011.05.25 05:27:00 -
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Edited by: Scarlet des Loupes on 25/05/2011 05:33:22
Originally by: Astroka
The entire point behind DUST 514 is for EVE players to hire DUST players (mercenaries) in order to capture strategic planetary installations, most likely impacting sovereignty and integrating with PI. Also, realize, since they don't use the same client - if something like orbital strikes was possible, then when it was performed on the EVE servers, it could happen simultaneously on the DUST 514 servers (assuming they don't run on the same servers - the whole point is for them to exist on one universe). Servers can ping other servers you know.
Have you paid any attention to what CCP is doing with DUST and just don't believe it's possible or are you assuming everything because you don't know anything about it?
EDIT: TL;DR: It is a console shooter MMO running in the EVE universe.
I know all that (part of it is pure speculation), I just don't believe CCP will make any significant real-time interaction between DUST and EVE. And as far as I've read they even never made such an intention. Adding real-time interaction with DUST on top of already existing lagfests in nul, you really beleive that wil happen?
Also: CCP explicitely stated there will never be the option of fighting between players in stations. So the whole elimination thing is utter nonsense as well.
The chance of this vid ever happening is as realistic as the Clear Skies vids are.
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Astroka
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Posted - 2011.05.25 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Scarlet des Loupes
Edited by: Scarlet des Loupes on 25/05/2011 05:31:39
Originally by: Astroka
The entire point behind DUST 514 is for EVE players to hire DUST players (mercenaries) in order to capture strategic planetary installations, most likely impacting sovereignty and integrating with PI. Also, realize, since they don't use the same client - if something like orbital strikes was possible, then when it was performed on the EVE servers, it could happen simultaneously on the DUST 514 servers (assuming they don't run on the same servers - the whole point is for them to exist on one universe). Servers can ping other servers you know.
Have you paid any attention to what CCP is doing with DUST and just don't believe it's possible or are you assuming everything because you don't know anything about it?
EDIT: TL;DR: It is a console shooter MMO running in the EVE universe.
I know all that (part of it is pure speculation), I just don't believe CCP will make any significant real-time interaction between DUST and EVE. And as far as I've read they even never made such an intention.
Also: CCP explicitely stated there will never be the option of fighting between players in stations. So the whole elimination thing is utter nonsense as well.
The chance of this vid ever happening is as realistic as the Clear Skies vids are.
Well yeah. I personally expect DUST to fail within a week or two because it will be nothing like how CCP envisioned it, and it will not be worth the effort. I'm just saying, that's what it's supposed to be.
For the record, though, the video was made using current game engines, though obviously with a lot of post-processing effects.
Originally by: Ioci
Welcome to the bustedness of EVE.
1 guy can disband a 2000 man alliance and wipe out trillions, that's cool.
Give back a noob 10 mill? No, that's game breaking.
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ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.25 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: Astroka
For the record, though, the video was made using current game engines, though obviously with a lot of post-processing effects.
Yeah, and that¦s part of what¦s so scary.
It looks like CCP vision is for us to only walk around in our pretty avatars (that assassination part in the trailer is pure BS IMHO), or use the same clunky 8+ year old(by then) space client while the consoleros run around in yet another tired FPS clone on the ground.
So after all the ozom cinema cuts and ¦splosions in that trailer, CCP¦s vision seems to be pretty bland. 
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Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.`
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.25 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Uuali
Originally by: Takita Yukida
This is an easy one: EVE: A future vision
That video has been proven to be fake. That is not officially sanctioned by CCP. Some dufus threw that one together and unlawfully slapped CCP's logo on it. Litigation is pending.
No, CCP does not have a vision let alone a FUTURE vision. Whatever the CSM complains about in regards to null sec is the next logical step taken.
Just FYI. No word 'til World of Darkness comes out. Or as I like to call it ù World of Not Live Action Role Play Anymore.
Lols!
Oh, I must have watched a fake fanfest 2011. I feel sad now.
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Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Hermosa Diosas
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.05.25 11:10:00 -
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The simple thing is all companies have a 3-5 year business plan, of where they are going, what they are planning to do, a roadmap. Even if its not set in concrete its still a vision, or ideas of what they want to achieve. You have to do this for resource, budgetry, investor etc purposes. Some business can only work a year at time knowing exactly what they want to do and the business plan is refreshed every year.
But there is pretty much always a 3-5 year plan of some sort. So what has CCP got in store for eve? Whats its 5,10 year vision. Where do they see eve in that timescale? What is eve to become? I cant belive they just develop eve on a adhoc basis, even though it feels like that sometimes.
I personally dont want to be spending my money on a game thats not going where I will enjoy it. Now for others this maybe exactly where they want it to go. We are all individuals ofc 
But maybe this is perhaps why CCP dont tell you their vision or plans, just incase you do stop subbing. The more you play, the more you have to lose. How many people would just stop playing a game after say 3/4 years with all the time and investment you put into it? Thats why I keep playing, purely because I have spent alot of time and money in this game, that to stop would be a total waste, even though I dont actually enjoy the game like I used to.
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