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FireBug JR	Posted - 2011.05.24 23:19:00 - [1] how bout remove local but have constellation chat? so your never sure where anyone is, but you atleast know there out there
Tyme Xandr Gallente Stones Inc. Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.05.25 06:01:00 - [2] Ive always advocated removal of local from nullsec. I kind of like ur idea. My change would be: Hisec: Local and Constellation Lowsec: Constellation, no local. Nullsec: No local, no constellation. Spam that dscan ...
Amaroq Dricaldari Amarr Vengeance Industrial Militia	Posted - 2011.05.25 06:11:00 - [3] And without Local Chat, you wouldn't be so upset about AFK Cloakers because if they were in the same system, you wouldn't know, and without local chat, you would suspect that they are in a different system. ________ The little things
Tyme Xandr Gallente Stones Inc. Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.05.25 06:49:00 - [4] Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari And without Local Chat, you wouldn't be so upset about AFK Cloakers because if they were in the same system, you wouldn't know, and without local chat, you would suspect that they are in a different system. yup. Theres another problem solved.
Cidwm	Posted - 2011.05.25 07:38:00 - [5] How exactly does delayed local work anyways? Because you could just go into a null sec system, D-scan to see if people are there and shout hi in local chat thus broardcasting your presense couldnt you?
Jint Hikaru OffWorld Exploration Inc	Posted - 2011.05.25 08:07:00 - [6] Originally by: Cidwm How exactly does delayed local work anyways? Because you could just go into a null sec system, D-scan to see if people are there and shout hi in local chat thus broardcasting your presense couldnt you? This! I often wondered about people claiming that 'remove local' was the answer to life, the universe and everything! "Hi, I'm cloaked in your system" Go off to work.... ------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------
Barbara Nichole Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2011.05.25 09:31:00 - [7] Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari And without Local Chat, you wouldn't be so upset about AFK Cloakers because if they were in the same system, you wouldn't know, and without local chat, you would suspect that they are in a different system. here here!
Amaroq Dricaldari Amarr Vengeance Industrial Militia	Posted - 2011.05.25 09:44:00 - [8] Because of this, I will finally be able to leave a Cloaked Titan Chock-Full of Armor Hardeners and Invulnerability Fields out in the open without getting in trouble, if I ever get the skills and money to get a Titan, and if this would get implemented. ________ The little things
Greystal Amarr Citadel Security Inc.	Posted - 2011.05.25 12:08:00 - [9] Edited by: Greystal on 25/05/2011 12:09:03 My opinion is this. You will have these "local" chats: grid, system, constelation, region. You only see people in grid if they are not cloaked, and not in other local chats, unless they spoke something then you were in system already. Armor shatters; Raven`s shadow obscures my sight; Capsule cracks. - Khanid Death Poem.
flummox	Posted - 2011.05.25 16:30:00 - [10] they already made this change to the game, folks. it's called a WORMHOLE. where there is no local unless you choose to speak. i don't understand why people are so dumb. if you hate local chat, then go to a wormhole... aroo

Tyme Xandr Gallente Stones Inc. Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.05.25 17:29:00 - [11] Originally by: flummox they already made this change to the game, folks. it's called a WORMHOLE. where there is no local unless you choose to speak. i don't understand why people are so dumb. if you hate local chat, then go to a wormhole... Wow, your an idiot. This isnt about WHs numbnuts. Its about removing local. Yes we know WHs dont have local, but not everyone hangs out in WHs all day. Theres far more people who own nullsec space and roam lowsec space. Check this game called EVE Online out, u might learn a thing or two.
flummox	Posted - 2011.05.26 03:56:00 - [12] Originally by: Tyme Xandr Originally by: flummox they already made this change to the game, folks. it's called a WORMHOLE. where there is no local unless you choose to speak. i don't understand why people are so dumb. if you hate local chat, then go to a wormhole... Wow, your an idiot. This isnt about WHs numbnuts. Its about removing local. Yes we know WHs dont have local, but not everyone hangs out in WHs all day. Theres far more people who own nullsec space and roam lowsec space. Check this game called EVE Online out, u might learn a thing or two. wow man. relax a bit and lay off the name calling. and, it's "you are an idiot" or the contraction "you're an idiot". also, this is a discussion about local chat. and if you dig deeper into some of the lore and dev blogs, you'll find local chat and WH space VERY closely linked... 2nd of all, we're supposed to be friends. you should check people out before raging. i'm not your gym teacher... aroo
Amaroq Dricaldari Amarr Vengeance Industrial Militia	Posted - 2011.05.26 04:45:00 - [13] Originally by: flummox And, it's "you are an idiot" or the contraction "you're an idiot". Good Example: You're stupid. Thank you. It will be reported within 5 minutes. Bad Example: Your stupid. My stupid? My stupid what? Anyway, back on topic: This idea is very important. Wormholes don't have local, but what he wants is for CCP to remove Local from Low-Sec and Null-Sec. ___167820___ ^^My Signature is Better than Yours^^
Tyme Xandr Gallente Stones Inc. Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.05.26 05:02:00 - [14] Originally by: flummox Originally by: Tyme Xandr Originally by: flummox they already made this change to the game, folks. it's called a WORMHOLE. where there is no local unless you choose to speak. i don't understand why people are so dumb. if you hate local chat, then go to a wormhole... Wow, your an idiot. This isnt about WHs numbnuts. Its about removing local. Yes we know WHs dont have local, but not everyone hangs out in WHs all day. Theres far more people who own nullsec space and roam lowsec space. Check this game called EVE Online out, u might learn a thing or two. wow man. relax a bit and lay off the name calling. and, it's "you are an idiot" or the contraction "you're an idiot". also, this is a discussion about local chat. and if you dig deeper into some of the lore and dev blogs, you'll find local chat and WH space VERY closely linked... 2nd of all, we're supposed to be friends. you should check people out before raging. i'm not your gym teacher... And you are supposed to use capital letters at the begining of each sentence. I am not your english teacher, especially considering english isnt my first language.
t'raq mardon	Posted - 2011.05.26 05:11:00 - [15] Edited by: t''raq mardon on 26/05/2011 05:12:12 Local was removed from WH space so that those of you who wish to play with out local can do so. The real issue is that you want it to be easier to get kills by surprising unsuspecting ratters/miners. though the constellation chat idea is a cool one
Tyme Xandr Gallente Stones Inc. Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.05.26 05:58:00 - [16] Originally by: t'raq mardon Edited by: t''raq mardon on 26/05/2011 05:12:12 Local was removed from WH space so that those of you who wish to play with out local can do so. The real issue is that you want it to be easier to get kills by surprising unsuspecting ratters/miners. though the constellation chat idea is a cool one So according to you, the reassn WHs were made was because people didnt want a local? ... Wow ...
Cedims	Posted - 2011.05.26 08:13:00 - [17] Originally by: FireBug JR how bout remove local but have constellation chat? so your never sure where anyone is, but you atleast know there out there They could also just remove the character listing in local altogether and add a "close" to it. This really does not change too much, since people that utilitze local can continue to do so, and the rest of us would be happy just closing it. I.e. like any other chat window. Maybe it's time to revamp the chat communications and remove the logical boundaries and use a "physical" distance instead?
t'raq mardon	Posted - 2011.05.26 14:32:00 - [18] Originally by: Tyme Xandr Originally by: t'raq mardon Edited by: t''raq mardon on 26/05/2011 05:12:12 Local was removed from WH space so that those of you who wish to play with out local can do so. The real issue is that you want it to be easier to get kills by surprising unsuspecting ratters/miners. though the constellation chat idea is a cool one So according to you, the reassn WHs were made was because people didnt want a local? ... Wow ... No, if you'll actually read what i posted you might understand what i said. While making WH space they removed local in an effort to appease those who were whining that local should be removed. Part of the reason it is so easy to live in WH space safely (without the threat of cyno drops, cap fleets, or well organized gangs) is because removing local makes the game much more intensive to play, something that most players would not be able to handle. That would mean people would start quitting eve because it was to hard to play, and it would not cause any real influx in new players. CCP might even start losing money and would then close, meaning no more eve. To avoid the possibility of this and protect their pocketbook CCP determined that WH and removing local were a good fit since WH were so much harder to locate and attack.
Dobas	Posted - 2011.05.26 14:48:00 - [19] Eve is the only mmorpg Ive ever played that has a local that shows eveyone within that area. I think its ******ed for strategic reasons. Local wont save you from someone that wants to gank you while you mine in HS so get that out of your head. More than not I will pop into nullsec from a wh usually and hit D scan. Bam a bunch of people mining and some fighters for defense or there will be a few BC's and a bunch of npc wrecks. Within a minute though they are usually posd up all because one person showed up in local that isnt blue. Local should only show those that are conversing no matter what security the system is. Seems people are to lazy to hit dscan and would rather have an instant notification that someone has entered system. Say your corp is war decd its almsot impossible to chase after someone cause they run when they see a couple enemies pop into that system. To me local has far more negative effects than positive. If your so worried about getting killed while your mining afk maybe eve isnt for you. I mean really your afk thats not playing a game. Its like turning on the tv then walking away and saying your watching tv.
Dro Nee	Posted - 2011.05.26 16:30:00 - [20] Just going to leave this here.... Originally by: CCP Greyscale We're generally of the opinion that simply putting local into delayed mode is a bad fix.

flummox	Posted - 2011.05.26 16:47:00 - [21] Originally by: Tyme Xandr Originally by: flummox Originally by: Tyme Xandr Originally by: flummox they already made this change to the game, folks. it's called a WORMHOLE. where there is no local unless you choose to speak. i don't understand why people are so dumb. if you hate local chat, then go to a wormhole... Wow, your an idiot. This isnt about WHs numbnuts. Its about removing local. Yes we know WHs dont have local, but not everyone hangs out in WHs all day. Theres far more people who own nullsec space and roam lowsec space. Check this game called EVE Online out, u might learn a thing or two. wow man. relax a bit and lay off the name calling. and, it's "you are an idiot" or the contraction "you're an idiot". also, this is a discussion about local chat. and if you dig deeper into some of the lore and dev blogs, you'll find local chat and WH space VERY closely linked... 2nd of all, we're supposed to be friends. you should check people out before raging. i'm not your gym teacher... And you are supposed to use capital letters at the begining of each sentence. I am not your english teacher, especially considering english isnt my first language. no i'm not. capital letters is to make it easier to see beginning and ends of sentences. nothing more. i feel that the punctuation is good enough. this isn't a blatant moronic mistake like yours is. this is a choice. and to stay on topic, the answer is YES. go read some of the lore and dig up the old debates about removing local. once again, you'll see them closely related to the wormholes... aroo
Tyme Xandr Gallente Stones Inc. Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.05.26 17:07:00 - [22] Originally by: t'raq mardon Originally by: Tyme Xandr Originally by: t'raq mardon Edited by: t''raq mardon on 26/05/2011 05:12:12 Local was removed from WH space so that those of you who wish to play with out local can do so. The real issue is that you want it to be easier to get kills by surprising unsuspecting ratters/miners. though the constellation chat idea is a cool one So according to you, the reassn WHs were made was because people didnt want a local? ... Wow ... No, if you'll actually read what i posted you might understand what i said. While making WH space they removed local in an effort to appease those who were whining that local should be removed. Part of the reason it is so easy to live in WH space safely (without the threat of cyno drops, cap fleets, or well organized gangs) is because removing local makes the game much more intensive to play, something that most players would not be able to handle. That would mean people would start quitting eve because it was to hard to play, and it would not cause any real influx in new players. CCP might even start losing money and would then close, meaning no more eve. To avoid the possibility of this and protect their pocketbook CCP determined that WH and removing local were a good fit since WH were so much harder to locate and attack. Actually no. WHs are placed either in a different time or universe 'be it parallel or mirror. Go read those annoying pop up pages when u warp into an anomaly. This is another reason why u cant cyno in caps and such, because each area isnt connected in any form. WHs werent made to combat local, and werent made to be 'easier'. They were meant to be a different style of lawless gameplay and they did a good job making it so. They were meant to not become over run by powerblock alliances as they arent directly connected to anywhere specific (most of the time) to allow for anyone (with a decent logistics backbone) to profit and make an area home.
t'raq mardon	Posted - 2011.05.31 14:05:00 - [23] Originally by: Tyme Xandr Actually no. WHs are placed either in a different time or universe 'be it parallel or mirror. Go read those annoying pop up pages when u warp into an anomaly. This is another reason why u cant cyno in caps and such, because each area isnt connected in any form. WHs werent made to combat local, and werent made to be 'easier'. They were meant to be a different style of lawless gameplay and they did a good job making it so. They were meant to not become over run by powerblock alliances as they arent directly connected to anywhere specific (most of the time) to allow for anyone (with a decent logistics backbone) to profit and make an area home. And CCP felt that WH were a place where they could remove local since entry was limited, cynoing was not possible, and the rats aggressed any ship that warped into an annomoly making the residents pretty much immune to individuals or even small gangs trying to gank them. WH space is extremely safe to live in from a PVP stand point since roams aren't going to come through, there isn't time to organize a fleet op to go in and take on over, and a very limited number of capital ships can actually enter. The PVE/Logistics are much harder but actually living in the system without being kicked out is much much easier.
Shieko Chan	Posted - 2011.05.31 17:02:00 - [24] Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Because of this, I will finally be able to leave a Cloaked Titan Chock-Full of Armor Hardeners and Invulnerability Fields out in the open without getting in trouble, if I ever get the skills and money to get a Titan, and if this would get implemented. I doubt it.
Sakaras Lane	Posted - 2011.06.03 06:02:00 - [25] I wish they would make local like wh unless the alliance put up a com hub
Vaju Katru	Posted - 2011.06.03 09:39:00 - [26] Supported, kill LOCAL
Deadloch Amarr One Wounded Wing	Posted - 2011.06.03 15:19:00 - [27] Local chat must be abolished... Region chat however would be GRAND!!!
Val'Dore Word Bearers of Chaos Word of Chaos Undivided	Posted - 2011.06.03 16:41:00 - [28] Originally by: t'raq mardon Local was removed from WH space so that those of you who wish to play with out local can do so. The real issue is that you want it to be easier to get kills by surprising unsuspecting ratters/miners. though the constellation chat idea is a cool one No, Local was removed from W-Space so CCP could see how the playerbase will get along without it in every other system in EvE. And having Local makes it easier to find people to kill, not harder. ~No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously.~ Tiericide
Mabah Vin	Posted - 2011.06.03 17:04:00 - [29] Local does'nt need to be 'removed'... Just have an option to join local or not join.
Unoriginality Gallente Unoriginal Enterprises	Posted - 2011.06.03 23:24:00 - [30] I like the Contellation chat idea, I could sit cloaked in any system and pick a random name from it and go, I CAN SEE YOU! Might cause a few lulz until they turn around and ask; Where am I then?



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