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Mini Freight
Removers Of Interstellular Debris
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Posted - 2012.09.07 16:31:00 -
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Primae
it's a great looking ship, but it's useless, no one will ever use one for it's intended purpose.
since we have revamped the barges, why not revamp this as well?
increase the size of the commodity hold up to 60-100K for more practical large scale PI use, a t1 industrial has more cargo capacity at lvl 1 skills, making it the clear winner when choosing between PI ships.
Having an increased PI commodity cargohold would have this ship making a comeback and it's just a great looking ship.
as it is now it's completely useless.
unless CCP designs an entirely new ship for Planetary interaction, this ship will continue to remain on the shelves collecting dust in eve, and i don't want to see this.
it would also be a great option for new PI Industrialists with the larger cargo capacity, making it the clear choice of something to work towards when doing PI.
I'd really like to see this ship revamped or a new design for the Primae, i think CCP should look into this.
looking forward to thoughts on this subject |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
1943
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Posted - 2012.09.07 16:32:00 -
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Can't you just use an industrial ship?
Just seems like a PI only ship would be a waste of development time where there is so many other things worth working on over that. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
2758
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Posted - 2012.09.07 16:32:00 -
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Its a freebie and not intended to actually be useful.
Just use a transporter.
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Mini Freight
Removers Of Interstellular Debris
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Posted - 2012.09.07 16:33:00 -
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yes you can use an industrial ship, but you are missing my point, a new ship designed for PI would be great |
Riot Girl
Riot Club
86
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Posted - 2012.09.07 16:34:00 -
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Mini Freight wrote:Primae
increase the size of the commodity hold up to 60-100K
That's too much. |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1054
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Posted - 2012.09.07 16:35:00 -
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I for one like the look of the Primae and would love to see it become more useful.
If CCP's plan is to give every ship a useful role why shouldn't that include "gift" ships as well?
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
2758
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Posted - 2012.09.07 16:38:00 -
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Mini Freight wrote:yes you can use an industrial ship, but you are missing my point, a new ship designed for PI would be great
What does it need to do aside from move stuff?
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Mini Freight
Removers Of Interstellular Debris
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Posted - 2012.09.07 16:38:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Mini Freight wrote:Primae
increase the size of the commodity hold up to 60-100K That's too much.
then how much do you think is a good idea?
remember that the hold in this ship is for PI materials only, and nothing else, making it specialized like the new ore holds on mining barges,
the mackinaw at max skills has a 35K ore bay and it's smaller than the primae and the noctis.
is it so hard to believe that a ship as large as this would have a comparable cargobay as well? |
James 315
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
2678
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Posted - 2012.09.07 16:40:00 -
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Do people still do PI? I thought that was over. 
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HostageTaker
Band of Freelancers
9
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Posted - 2012.09.07 16:41:00 -
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CCP angered a lot of people when they released the Primea. Community loved the ship design so much but hated the useless stats/role it played.
CCP responded with the creation of the Noctis, killing 2 birds with 1 stone; finally giving people a dedicated salvage boat in the Primea hull.
Btw, I agree, buff the Primea so more people actually fly this Hangar Queen!
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Titans on fire outside "The Alamo" of NOL-M9. I watched massive Super Capital fleets glitter in the dark near the BKG-Q2 gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... -á
Time to die. |
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Mini Freight
Removers Of Interstellular Debris
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Posted - 2012.09.07 16:41:00 -
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i love PI i manage over 60 planets put together with alts and multiple characters on accounts, the isk income that is passive is great.
not for lazy ppl :P |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1055
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Posted - 2012.09.07 16:46:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Do people still do PI? I thought that was over. I've actually thought about setting up some PI sites myself, so what if it's apparently not as profitable in highsec as it once was it still looks fun.
Come to think of it, for those who want to nerf highsec maybe the planetary interaction tax hike in highsec, and apparently how that caused lots of people to stop doing it, should serve as an example of just how easy it is to spoil highsec content with nerfs. Than again I suspect for certain people that's sort of the point...
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Brooks Puuntai
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
721
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Posted - 2012.09.07 16:47:00 -
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Passive and lazy usually go hand in hand. Once you start branching out and having to micro manage multiple accounts with multiple characters no longer is it really passive. |
Arec Bardwin
Perkone
Caldari State
719
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Posted - 2012.09.07 16:50:00 -
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Mini Freight wrote:...., the isk income that is passive is great.
not for lazy ppl :P Doesn't sound much passive to me.
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Solstice Project
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
1730
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Posted - 2012.09.07 16:55:00 -
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Mini Freight wrote:i love PI i manage over 60 planets put together with alts and multiple characters on accounts, the isk income that is passive is great.
not for lazy ppl :P You call managing 60 planets passive income ?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA xD
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Mini Freight
Removers Of Interstellular Debris
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Posted - 2012.09.07 19:11:00 -
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2 billion a month for 2 hours of maintainance a month? yep |
Mini Freight
Removers Of Interstellular Debris
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Posted - 2012.09.07 19:12:00 -
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but back on topic, still need to rework the Primae to make it worthwhile.
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stoicfaux
1550
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Posted - 2012.09.07 19:16:00 -
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Primae needs a pirate faction version that can transport goods to/from the planet while avoiding customs office taxes.
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Zera Kerrigan
Dark Tempest Enterprises
41
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Posted - 2012.09.07 19:32:00 -
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I
also
write
like
this. |
Cede Forster
52
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Posted - 2012.09.07 20:10:00 -
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i think the point was to bypass some game restriction and allow trial accounts to try out PI
working as intended - but then again, they buffed the noobship so... |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2408
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Posted - 2012.09.07 20:31:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:James 315 wrote:Do people still do PI? I thought that was over. I've actually thought about setting up some PI sites myself, so what if it's apparently not as profitable in highsec as it once was it still looks fun. Come to think of it, for those who want to nerf highsec maybe the planetary interaction tax hike in highsec, and apparently how that caused lots of people to stop doing it, should serve as an example of just how easy it is to spoil highsec content with nerfs. Than again I suspect for certain people that's sort of the point...
Well, since High Sec PI is booming, most planets in Low Sec have POCO's, and Null seems to be using them as well... I'd say the point being made is that for all of the wailing and gnashing of teeth in reality nothing was ruined. In fact, Low Sec got quite a bit more traffic out of it without significantly affecting High Sec PI.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Solstice Project
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
1731
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Posted - 2012.09.07 20:53:00 -
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He makes me want to buy a ps3 just so i can blow his things apart...
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
2759
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Posted - 2012.09.07 22:21:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:He makes me want to buy a ps3 just so i can blow his things apart...
You can soon hire me to do it for you.
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Lord Arakkis
Vestige of Vehemence
Dragon Swarm Dynasty
47
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Posted - 2012.09.07 22:24:00 -
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Mini Freight wrote:Primae
it's a great looking ship, but it's useless, no one will ever use one for it's intended purpose.
since we have revamped the barges, why not revamp this as well?
increase the size of the commodity hold up to 60-100K for more practical large scale PI use, a t1 industrial has more cargo capacity at lvl 1 skills, making it the clear winner when choosing between PI ships.
Having an increased PI commodity cargohold would have this ship making a comeback and it's just a great looking ship.
as it is now it's completely useless.
unless CCP designs an entirely new ship for Planetary interaction, this ship will continue to remain on the shelves collecting dust in eve, and i don't want to see this.
it would also be a great option for new PI Industrialists with the larger cargo capacity, making it the clear choice of something to work towards when doing PI.
I'd really like to see this ship revamped or a new design for the Primae, i think CCP should look into this.
looking forward to thoughts on this subject
So...where do you do your PI? Please be specific (which system and planet, and what time you do pick ups). It for uh...research. Yea.
Your still a child in the eyes of the universe |
Sabrina Solette
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2012.09.07 22:39:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Can't you just use an industrial ship?
Just seems like a PI only ship would be a waste of development time where there is so many other things worth working on over that.
Hardly much development time needed just to alter one of it's attributes. |
Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
106
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Posted - 2012.09.07 22:48:00 -
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I think i miss the point but why do you need a "ship for planet interaction for" only for storage or what? if thats the case pick a industrial or freighter. So its great to have some sort op ships but i dont see the benefit from it. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
68
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Posted - 2012.09.07 23:01:00 -
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This topic needs some focus on blockade running instead of cargo-hold optimalisation. Whats wrong with an industrial fitted for survivability? |
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
165
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Posted - 2012.09.08 02:57:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Do people still do PI? I thought that was over.
Update heads every few days. Haul a load into a trade center every couple of weeks. PI is a no brainer. Why not do it. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
443
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Posted - 2012.09.08 06:25:00 -
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Perhaps giving it a bonus to orbital bombardment might help
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Journies End
130
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Posted - 2012.09.08 07:07:00 -
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Tbh Id have to agree with the OP on this one. Its a useless ship even for newbies. As tbh most newbies arent going to know what to do nor wish to train the skills JUST to do PI early on. And even if they do the primae is just useless even in that role. A 14 or 21 day trial account and they wish to do PI? No not really.
But for active accounts and that DUST is coming out soon I could see a new role for it. Not just a larger PI only cargohold but also perhaps some useful skill trait to help out or move DUST players around. Maybe scouting or added bonuses to bombardment or accuracy. Being able to see more of what the colonies planetside consist of. Or being able to go into deployed mode, like the rorqual, using a fuel of some sort to aid defenses or attack values in relation to bombardment. Better scanning while in the ship itself, more harvesting per cycle if the job is installed with the ship in space, uncloaked, in a deployed mode of a few minutes while in range of the POCO? Making it both vulnerable for a time period while gaining the increased rewards.
Really theres a LOT of nifty things you could use it for other than just a hangar queen. And seeing as its a one time GIFT ship its limited isnt it? But theres a crapton out there still. Which would mean that having it "killed" would raise the value of those surviving given some decent really USEFUL roles if its forced into a combat scenario which in turn would raise its value in attack or defense as its numbers diminish.
Just... thoughts.... nothing special.
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