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Mathhew Kane
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.05.28 15:09:00 -
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Why is it that I can hear a ship go boom in the vast nothingness of space? That's a more important question then why a direct energy weapon produces recoil!
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Dunn Idaho
Caldari
Core Impulse
Auctorita Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.28 15:15:00 -
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As you know there is no sound in space, but when we were developing the capsules we found that people wanted to use as many of their senses as possible, thus we added the sound. By letting a computer create three dimensional sound we also add to the awareness you have while in battles, for instance."
Several seconds later Pirkotan could hear the audio synthesizers kick in; he could hear the low humming noise of the propulsion system and the sudden hissing sound of course-correctional thrusters. Anu came back on: "Now we'll test the audio system."
Suddenly a missile was launched from one of the missile bays. It flew majestically out from the ship and disappeared to the right of Pirkotan's vision. Pirkotan turned the camera and watched it fly away from the ship. Then a stab of green and yellow light came from the Jovian vessel, accompanied by a loud crackling noise. The weapon burst hit the missile and it exploded. Pirkotan heard the explosion clearly and when he turned the camera to the Jovian vessel he could still hear the explosion's residue in the background
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2011.05.28 15:20:00 -
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EVE space is actually filled with a viscous fluid that sound can propagate through. It also slows your ship's maximum velocity and is the other secret ingredient in Quafe Zero.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.05.28 15:23:00 -
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Its simulated to increase situtational awareness.
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JC Anderson
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.05.28 15:23:00 -
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Dunn is correct.
Awhile back CCP actually came up with that reason after people kept asking why we could hear sounds in space. I think it was in a chronicle or something.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.28 17:06:00 -
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As you know there is no sound in space
I have been there and say there is, and ask you to prove otherwise. WIkipedia is not an acceptable answer as wikipedia has not been to space.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.05.28 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
Quote:
As you know there is no sound in space
I have been there and say there is, and ask you to prove otherwise. WIkipedia is not an acceptable answer as wikipedia has not been to space.
Originally by: Xenuria
I don't need a LICENSE to take a photoshooped image and lay it on top of the game client and make pretend my character is naked.
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JC Anderson
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.05.28 17:25:00 -
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How do I astronaut.
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.28 18:38:00 -
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'They' all got an F in physics.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.05.28 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mathhew Kane
Why is it that I can hear a ship go boom in the vast nothingness of space?
The same reason you can hear it on your PC is the reason why a fictional podpilot can fictonally hear it - they're both simulations.
For you, it's the PC simulating it, for the fictional pilot it's the fictional gear on the fictional pod fictionally simulating it.
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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2011.05.28 18:46:00 -
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Space is a vacuum. However, this does not necessarily mean that space is completely empty. The researches in the last couple of decades have revealed that a variety of things, such as particles and waves called electromagnetic waves, are moving through space.
These particles and waves come from both our Sun and from outside our Solar System. Galactic cosmic ray is the name of those particles and waves that travel great distances from our Solar System. Radiation and particles, known as the "Solar Wind", are emitted by our Sun.
Sound is a sequence of waves of pressure that propagates through compressible media such as air or water. (Sound can propagate through solids as well, but there are additional modes of propagation). During propagation, waves can be reflected, refracted, or attenuated by the medium.
so if there is enough particles in an area (like a nebula) there is a "medium" for sound to travel...
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.05.28 18:54:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 28/05/2011 18:54:51
Originally by: MeBiatch
so if there is enough particles in an area (like a nebula) there is a "medium" for sound to travel...
And the speed of sound in that medium will not be very fast.
In fact, just look at the speed of sound in Earth's atmosphere, the higher up you go, the SLOWER the speed of sound gets (from about 340 m/s at ground level to under 300 m/s at 10km altitude).
So if you would be looking at a ship exploding 20km from you (which is not particularly far in EVE), neglecting for a moment the intensity that would arrive, the sound would need over a minute to get to your ship - which is obviously not what you get in EVE.
So no, the answer is not that... it's really, really simple, and it's even in the chronicles.
The pod SIMULATES the sounds.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.05.28 19:06:00 -
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This exact question has been answered hundreds of times on these forums.
I'm surprised you didn't ask "do ships have crews?" too.
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Andr Katelo
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Posted - 2011.05.28 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kyra Felann
This exact question has been answered hundreds of times on these forums.
I'm surprised you didn't ask "do ships have crews?" too.
If we are to trust the EvE wiki, pod pilots need crew! Ow my, turns out I have 200-300 people on my Ferox? When did they get on board? What do they eat? I don't think my Ferox has any restrooms either.
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Zag'mar Jurkar
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Posted - 2011.05.28 19:19:00 -
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There is midgets in your ship simulating the sound things should do. That's where the sound come from.
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Culmen
Caldari
Vigrior
The Dominion Empire
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
So no, the answer is not that... it's really, really simple, and it's even in the chronicles.
The pod SIMULATES the sounds.
In space, no one can hear you scream...
Thus the pod can simulate the sound for your listening pleasure.
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Astroka
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:52:00 -
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It's stated in the EVE lore that the sound is simulated via the ship's computer so the pod pilot doesn't go insane, and so they can be more immersed. So, this has already been answered by CCP.
Originally by: Ioci
Welcome to the bustedness of EVE.
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Give back a noob 10 mill? No, that's game breaking.
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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2011.05.29 05:45:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 28/05/2011 18:54:51
Originally by: MeBiatch
so if there is enough particles in an area (like a nebula) there is a "medium" for sound to travel...
And the speed of sound in that medium will not be very fast.
In fact, just look at the speed of sound in Earth's atmosphere, the higher up you go, the SLOWER the speed of sound gets (from about 340 m/s at ground level to under 300 m/s at 10km altitude).
So if you would be looking at a ship exploding 20km from you (which is not particularly far in EVE), neglecting for a moment the intensity that would arrive, the sound would need over a minute to get to your ship - which is obviously not what you get in EVE.
So no, the answer is not that... it's really, really simple, and it's even in the chronicles.
The pod SIMULATES the sounds.
well ok then...
but... dark energy consists of 70% of the universe and dark mater is around 23% with only around 6-7% regular matter...
since we don't have dark energy or mater to study in a lab we have no idea if this could be a substitute medium for sound to travel in...
though yeah simple answer usually best...
though will simulated sounds will be enough to stave off the Jovian insane disease that always comes with prolonged pod lives and deaths... like scar from battle star... constantly dying and being reborn becoming numb to the effects of the finality that death should bring... type of thing?
it would be cool if there were a chronicle where the neural interface thing malfunctions and sends your conciseness to two clones... where they eventually become enemies and kill each other... some Freud type of stuff....
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David Hassan
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Posted - 2011.05.29 05:57:00 -
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Jovian Wetgrave Backstory
I'm pretty sure its mentioned in this. There is no sound is space, but pods have auditory simulators for environmental awareness.
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Uuali
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Posted - 2011.05.29 07:41:00 -
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If we can hear sound in our pod then I want to hear screaming as a pod goes poof.
Because in space, no one can hear you scream.
Ba dum chhh!
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Ben Harrigan
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Posted - 2011.05.29 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
The same reason you can hear it on your PC is the reason why a fictional podpilot can fictonally hear it - they're both simulations.
For you, it's the PC simulating it, for the fictional pilot it's the fictional gear on the fictional pod fictionally simulating it.
In your face science, you can't beat Akita.
It sounds a bit like a fictional wife ... I wish that old hag would stay away from my fictionally simulated fantasies.
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Paranoid Lemming
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Posted - 2011.05.29 08:05:00 -
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Turn EVE sounds off. Adds to immersion.
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Lost Greybeard
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.29 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
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As you know there is no sound in space
I have been there and say there is, and ask you to prove otherwise. WIkipedia is not an acceptable answer as wikipedia has not been to space.
Human audible range is 20Hz - 20kHz. With a pressure of 10E-6 (interplanetary) to 10E-8 torr, the mean free path of molecules (a characterization of at what point the gas stops acting like a bunch of independent molecules and starts acting like a coherent fluid capable of things like pressure waves and other statistical effects) is larger than wavelengths associated with those frequencies given the relevant speed of sound.
And in a theoretical complete vacuum (no content whatsoever) momentum can't be transmitted across the space at all, so sound is by definition not transmissible.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.05.29 09:05:00 -
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Edited by: Nova Fox on 29/05/2011 09:08:36
Edited by: Nova Fox on 29/05/2011 09:07:34
Originally by: Lost Greybeard
Human audible range is 20Hz - 20kHz. With a pressure of 10E-6 (interplanetary) to 10E-8 torr, the mean free path of molecules (a characterization of at what point the gas stops acting like a bunch of independent molecules and starts acting like a coherent fluid capable of things like pressure waves and other statistical effects) is larger than wavelengths associated with those frequencies given the relevant speed of sound.
And in a theoretical complete vacuum (no content whatsoever) momentum can't be transmitted across the space at all, so sound is by definition not transmissible.
Alas space isnt a true vacuum devoid of ALL material, there is more than enough material in space to cause enough friction to make any solid object going faster the speed of light to go nova with that much friction. Let alone there is more than enough material out there to tear current space apart to the point that it will not reform into the big bang eventually or any time sooner than originally estimated. To escape the material density of our space as we know it you will have to go to the place that hasnt happened yet. Which as far as we are concnerned is over 10 billion light years away as far as we can tell.
Finally another definition of noise is more akin to military terms, Space if effing noisy by that standard, squawks of IR, microwaves, gamma, radio, ultravoilet, x-rays and visible light specturm is practically inescapable to pick up in the galaxy, if you don't belive me go turn your tv on to a white noise channel if space wasnt noisy that channel would be black instead of static.
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Nyro Akirason
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Posted - 2011.05.29 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dunn Idaho
As you know there is no sound in space
Not true! There is sound in space; it travels too slowly for any human to hear it due to the lack of atmosphere. Learned that in my Physics class a few weeks ago.
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