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Raho Ure
TYER Ltd
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Posted - 2011.09.28 02:53:00 -
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Flying the Cynabal now and was thinking, for solo roaming would I be better packing 5x Warriors and 5x ECM 300s or 5x ECM 600's
I already have a Medium Neut to deal with Frigs, but would I be better off back more of a escape plan? |
Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.28 07:38:00 -
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Warriors and EC-300 is what you should carry. Also be aware that the medium neut will only "deal with" frigates without a nos, if they have one then you're depending on Warriors or EC-300s to gtfo. |
Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.09.28 09:03:00 -
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You want the mix, neut and warriors for frigates and the ewar drones are really only for GTFO moments when you need to lose a scram (neut also helps shut off scrams too obviously).
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Mara Abraham
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.09.28 16:03:00 -
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Good day:
I've used mediums as they work well against BC down solo targets.
http://www.rifterdrifter.com/2011/04/why-i-hate-ecm-drones/ does a good job at giving percentage success for ecm drones against ship classes.
The light ECM drones work ok against BC to frigates, but the jam % is low; and doesn't last too long when it does hit (long enough to get out of that's your intent).
Thank you.
--- Mara Abraham
* http://www.factionalwarfare.info/
* http://evepiratelife.com/ |
Mumtaz Khan
Nagrom Security Syndicate
Flatline.
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Posted - 2011.09.28 16:30:00 -
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Personally, I prefer damage drones while soloing., but I have almost maxed drone skills. You should be focusing on killing your opponent as quickly as possible. ECM drones have a very low chance to jam, and you could go the whole fight without getting one off. Your light drones are guaranteed to at least put some damage on your opponent, whereas you're taking a chance with the ECM. But considering you SP in drones and how little damage light drones do in an unbonused ship, it's p[ersonal preference really.
In alliance fleets though, all ships with less than 50mb/s drone band carry ECMs. Having that many ecm drones out ensures a much higher chance of lock break, and is wonderful for taking out paired guardians. |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.09.28 17:16:00 -
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For a cyn, ecm + warriors are the way to go
Is sexy time? |
Mara Abraham
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.09.28 18:06:00 -
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Good day, Mumtaz Khan:
Medium ECM's against a frigate hull are close to 100% jam success; and against up to bc it should be most of the time.
When I fly my Cynabal solo, the ECM plus neut is mainly for the get out factor.
Thank you.
--- Mara Abraham
* http://www.factionalwarfare.info/
* http://evepiratelife.com/ |
Skyly
Spricer
Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.09.29 12:43:00 -
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Say no to dishonour drones! 
However, if you want every edge and don't care about your space honour, this is the way to go:
Princess Nexxala wrote:For a cyn, ecm + warriors are the way to go
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.29 13:11:00 -
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TBH if you want a gtfo option then an ECM burst is pretty much guaranteed (totally guaranteed if a Rifter has scram) to break the scrams on you. For a Cynabal that's often enough to gtfo on overheated mwd. Its a decent enough option given you have a "spare" midslot on the Cynabal.
/me rummages......
Something like this works :
[Cynabal, ECM]
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Large Shield Extender II
'Cetus' ECM Shockwave I
Large Shield Extender II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Medium Nosferatu II
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
No point in having a neut if you got an ECM burst really. You can suggest a medium nos is a bad idea and I wouldn't argue much, but a small nos is useless and the medium might let you pop the ECM burst one more time.
I'm not recommending the fit but it does work for "oh bollox" moments. Doesn't really need the T2 rigs, I had them anyway. RF point makes a HUGE difference to the way you fly a Cynabal but is expensive so substitute for T2.
The "spare" midslot on Cynabal is great fun - put a track with range script in and Harbys can barely hit you. Loads of options other than the cookie-cutter invuln/LSE2.... |
Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2011.09.29 13:41:00 -
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Skyly wrote:Say no to dishonour drones!
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Mara Abraham
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.09.29 13:43:00 -
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Good day:
Having tested the ECM burst.... it has a lot of issues from cap to how long it takes, etc.
So if you want to lower your tank or other features, use it. Otherwise medium ecm drones work 100% of the time against frigate hulls, and most of the time up to bc hulls.
You can also use a mix as noted -- warrior II's and the light ECM drones (but lights don't work 100% of the time against any size target).
Thank you.
--- Mara Abraham
* http://www.factionalwarfare.info/
* http://evepiratelife.com/ |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.09.29 15:25:00 -
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Since when did honor equate to being a complete moron?
Skyly wrote:Say no to dishonour drones! However, if you want every edge and don't care about your space honour, this is the way to go: Princess Nexxala wrote:For a cyn, ecm + warriors are the way to go
Is sexy time? |
Skyly
Spricer
Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.09.29 17:53:00 -
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Princess Nexxala wrote:Since when did honor equate to being a complete moron? Skyly wrote:Say no to dishonour drones! However, if you want every edge and don't care about your space honour, this is the way to go: Princess Nexxala wrote:For a cyn, ecm + warriors are the way to go
Since ECM drones are the equivelant of fitting stabs pre-nerf...
Also, obligatory "U mad?" |
Goose99
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.29 19:14:00 -
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Mara Abraham wrote:Good day: I've used mediums as they work well against BC down solo targets. http://www.rifterdrifter.com/2011/04/why-i-hate-ecm-drones/ does a good job at giving percentage success for ecm drones against ship classes. The light ECM drones work ok against BC to frigates, but the jam % is low; and doesn't last too long when it does hit (long enough to get out of that's your intent). Thank you.
Jam % doesn't matter. EC-300s are better because they're faster, which means more jam -> return -> jam rinse and repeat. It only needs to break lock once for you to get away. Jam % is way too low even with ec-600s. If you use them the old fashioned way, you'll pop by the time a cycle gets through. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2011.09.29 21:15:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:
Jam % doesn't matter. EC-300s are better because they're faster, which means more jam -> return -> jam rinse and repeat.
It doesn't work that way now. The drones try to jam at the end of a cycle, not the start. A reasonably elegant solution to the recall/relaunch drones documented exploit. |
Goose99
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.29 21:26:00 -
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Othran wrote:Goose99 wrote:
Jam % doesn't matter. EC-300s are better because they're faster, which means more jam -> return -> jam rinse and repeat.
It doesn't work that way now. The drones try to jam at the end of a cycle, not the start. A reasonably elegant solution to the recall/relaunch drones documented exploit.
Bummer. I gotta get with the fotm... |
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