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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2012.09.19 10:40:00 -
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Here is an idea, how about you concrete on finding out why the what, 85% is it, of the Eve population who actually doesn't give a flying **** about the CSM and don't vote, why they don't.
Once you accomplish this and maybe say half that figure then the issue of block voting will most likely become much less of an issue as many more eve players who are not part of those coalitions will be voting.
I say this knowing that the CSM will most likely never tackle this problem head on as it would mean they would find it much more difficult to be re-elected which after all is what this is all about.
It has nothing to do with making the voting system fairer or helping the "disenfranchise voter". It is simply a way to further help to ensure that certain CSM members get re-elected so they continue on their little power trips and feel more important then everyone else.
Whilst I am not a goon and have no particular feelings towards kittens, I have to admit that when he was chairman of the CSM they certainly appeared to accomplish a lot more then any other CSM and there was a lot more game issues discussed then pointless threads like this one.
As I said before, instead of trying to pass this off as a discussion on making the voting system fairer, trying finding out why approx 85% of Eve players don't vote and get that number down.
Once you have accomplished this then take another look at the voting system and see if it needs changing. |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2012.09.23 14:50:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:The real reason that this stupid trainwreck of a thread even came up is because highsec is so smothered in cotton wool and bubble-wrap that the bulk of the residents there have no reason to lift a finger to improve their place in-game, and so aren't motivated to vote, let alone organise to determine the most effective candidate to articulate their non-existent concerns.
Highsec, deep down, knows how good they have it compared to the rest of the game, and so the only real 'platform' that its' occupants could rally around would be "CCP, please leave everything exactly the same as it is now forever and ever".
Whilst there is some truth to this when you look at the numbers its not just HS dwellers who are not voting.
For what ever reason the vast majority of Eve players appear to have no interest in the CSM.
I am sure that the reasons are varied and people will speculate what those reasons are but until CCP actually do something to find out we can not know for sure.
What I would like to see is CCP send out a survey as they do anyway, asking people what their opinion of the CSM is, if they vote and there reasons why do / do not
Maybe then we can have a proper discussion with some facts instead of conjecture.
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2012.09.27 07:12:00 -
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If you really want to change the voting system then how about this
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I am fully aware that I will flamed to Hell and Back but this is something I would actually support
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I would keep the CSM but remove the whole voting for candidates.
Instead I would have say the 10 largest Alliance each put forward 1 Candidate with 1 Assistant and make the CSM up with that.
Why?
Well the most 2 important things for me anyway is that these alliances will actually care a great deal about how the game is developed,and will have a very good understanding how the game mechanics work.
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2012.09.27 09:47:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:If you really want to change the voting system then how about this
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I am fully aware that I will flamed to Hell and Back but this is something I would actually support
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I would keep the CSM but remove the whole voting for candidates.
Instead I would have say the 10 largest Alliance each put forward 1 Candidate with 1 Assistant and make the CSM up with that.
Why?
Well the most 2 important things for me anyway is that these alliances will actually care a great deal about how the game is developed,and will have a very good understanding how the game mechanics work. The only problems I see with that are: They won't necessarily know about WH mechanics, as not all alliances have WH wings. HS people will whine despite likely being better represented. It's undemocratic (of course, as this is an advisory, rather than parliamentary body, that may not be a problem).
What a lot of people who have only ever lived HS need to realise is that if a lot of problems in null are fixed then by default HS will improve.
You can also argue that people have had years to put together a dedicated HS lobby group and have failed to do so.
You can solve the WH issue by simply inviting a couple of members for various well know WH Alliances / Corps.
Yes it undemocratic but I do not see the CSM as anything other as a advisory body anyway, so you might as well put people who have a good knowledge of all aspects of the game and a solid fundamental understanding of the game mechanicals in that advisory body.
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2012.09.27 09:50:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:~rabble rabble rabble nullsec-dominated CSM rabble rabble rabble~
You know.. good as it is only the null sec alliances that have the knowledge required to advise CCP.,
I have no allegiances to any of the big Null sec entities yet even I can see that a advisory council made of of people in those alliances will be able to give better advice to CCP then somebody who has never lived out of HS. |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:03:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:In all honesty almost anything would be better than what we have currently. The system in it's current form is exploitable and a new system or a hybrid of systems is in order.
I would love to know why you think the current system is "exploitable" |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2012.10.02 10:57:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Xenuria wrote:In all honesty almost anything would be better than what we have currently. The system in it's current form is exploitable and a new system or a hybrid of systems is in order. I would love to know why you think the current system is "exploitable" He means that people keep voting for candidates other than Xenuria.
Personally I think anybody who did cast a vote for Xenuria should have their accounts deleted and IP's perma banned but that just me  |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2012.10.25 10:48:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Yes, let's do that so the hisec pubbies can whine even harder about nullsec taking over the CSM.
Awesome idea.
Thing is.. nullsec already control the CSM and have done for a long long time and for good reason, they are the only group of players who actually really do care about Eve.
If other players outside of null sec alliances cared then they would of formed some sort of group, so far in they haven't. |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2012.10.25 14:23:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Malcanis wrote:Prince Kobol wrote: the top 10 Alliances in Eve Defined by what metric? Members? Sov systems? Killboard stats? NPCs killed? How blue they are to me? Make the metrics for CSM memberships the number of macks and orcas killed. It'll be awesome during election months.
Damn that would be funny :) |
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