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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 06/06/2011 11:21:40
Originally by: Jade Constantine We moved on to confronting and humiliating the entire Amarrian bloc with Operations Judas Goat, Slaughterhouse and Daisy-Cutter.
I certainly didn't feel humiliated by JF's efforts in that campaign, and I suspect that the rest of the Amarr Bloc didn't either.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 11:31:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 06/06/2011 11:31:44
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 06/06/2011 11:21:40
Originally by: Jade Constantine We moved on to confronting and humiliating the entire Amarrian bloc with Operations Judas Goat, Slaughterhouse and Daisy-Cutter.
I certainly didn't feel humiliated by JF's efforts in that campaign, and I suspect that the rest of the Amarr Bloc didn't either.
But then again you didn't feel humiliated by being forced to celebrate Sarum's coronation while being docked in Amarr Family Station with a fleet of angry Matari terrorists and Radical Freespacers gathered outside while you handed out battleship prizes to fellow dock monkeys and got a stern tongue lashing on the subject from your more-militant kinsmen in the KPV.
The obvious conclusion is you lack a proper awareness of shame.
Thats hardly news though! 
Are you talking about the gathering that was advertised in advance as being held inside a station?
Are you still bitter about having to mewl impotently outside?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake Are you talking about the gathering that was advertised in advance as being held inside a station?
I think we considered it a positive triumph for any pilot opposed to Amarrian Nationalist folly to see our enemies reduced to patting themselves on the back across the pews in a station church rather than daring to parade outside in space.
Unfortunately for your cause many of your kinsmen felt the same way.
We decided not to let you disrupt the event, and you didn't. We did things according to our timetable and agenda, not yours.
A few (a small minority) disagreed with that decision, but they're entitled to their opinion.
As for your contention that your enemies had been reduced to patting themselves on the back inside a station, I disagree. Most of the corps present on that day still have an active presence in space. Indeed, PIE pilots continue to this day to engage in combat on a daily basis.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake We decided not to let you disrupt the event, and you didn't.
Short of kicking our way into the cathedral and setting fire to your prayer-cushions I can think of few ways it would have been possible to interfere with an entirely station-bound celebration of Amarrian Nationalist "power".
But that's my point. Had we undocked and destroyed your fleet, the remembrance ceremony would still have been disrupted. So we stuck to the plan.
Fighting at a ceremony to remember the victims of war would have made a mockery of it.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 06/06/2011 14:34:51 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 06/06/2011 14:34:29 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 06/06/2011 14:33:58
Ah yes, the old quoting out of context ruse.
I urge interested parties to read the full text of what was said at the memorial service, rather than just the little snippet presented by Jade.
But since you seem so keen to talk about humilation Jade, shall we talk about the time a Star Fraction fleet failed to intercept a frighter carrying a senior Amarrian VIP because their fleet hadn't had time to set up their blockade properly after chasing a decoy halfway across Domain?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
I find it rather amusing it took you a whole three edits master your wits long enough for that rather piffling reply 
I take it that you don't want to talk about JF being humilated by a monk then.
Would you prefer to talk about the time that you, the arch-advocate of free space, had to make an announcement regarding the closure to neutral vessels of the space that your alliance controlled? I guess that you must have found that rather humiliating.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 06/06/2011 15:17:07
Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 06/06/2011 15:05:43
Originally by: Rodj Blake ... being humilated by a monk then.
Isn't that precisely what we are talking about with your organization attempting to commemorate the fighting at Mekhios by offering Battleships to other loyalists only to be told to keep the ships and use them yourself rather than hiding in a station from your enemies? Do try to keep your wits on the subject.
My point is that you seem to think that us doing something that we planned to is somehow humiliating.
I disagree.
I say that your failure to intercept Brother Joshua's freighter (and the other freighter that was with him. And the three industrials) in Kor-Azor Prime was a humilation.
I say that you announcing that your alliance was closing the space it controlled was a humilation.
And I say that you being caught out employing neutral-flagged IGS proxies must have been quite humiliating as well.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 15:33:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 06/06/2011 15:34:53
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake My point is that you seem to think that us doing something that we planned to is somehow humiliating.
Ah you are confusing yourself Rodj Blake. What I consider is deeply humiliating for your organization is that after resolving to hold a celebration of Amarrian martial prowess and success in a station interior (to avoid your enemies outside) you decided to attempt to reward your fellow nationalists with gift battleships only to be told to "keep them" and try using such things yourself rather than gutlessly coughing out the phrase "amarr victor" from dock.
Except that it wasn't a simple celebration of martial prowess. Note the title of the thread - Honoring the Fallen.
Also get your facts straight. Only one battleship was returned to us. I believe that it later saw combat defending the Empire.
Really Jade, if this is your greatest "victory" over PIE after eight years, you should probably hang your head in shame.
It's hardly a humiliation compared to you messing up your biggest ever chance to affect the Empire, having to retract your NRDS policy in public, or being caught out using a proxy now is it?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 16:05:00 -
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As I've said, I don't feel at all humiliated by what happened.
Jade's reticence to discuss issues such as her public retraction of JF's NRDS policy suggests that she's somewhat embarrased by them though. One might even say humiliated.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 17:45:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 06/06/2011 17:46:52
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake As I've said, I don't feel at all humiliated by what happened. Jade's reticence to discuss issues such as her public retraction of JF's NRDS policy suggests that she's somewhat embarrased by them though.
I see you are hiding your shame and embarrassment behind lies as usual Rodj Blake.
You reference a communication I made seven and half years ago communicating the decision of the NVA council to temporarily close space in its core regions in the face of a giant pirate invasion.
Note that NVA was not "my alliance" it was not even an "alliance" (since formal alliances did not exist at that time). NVA was a lose affiliation of allied corps with a council deciding policy on democratic principles. On the occassion you reference a majority of representatives decided their interests were best served by adopting the policy I communicated on their behalf.
I'm not saying that you agreed with the policy. I'm saying that you must have found it humiliating to make that statement.
Also, if the NVA wasn't an alliance, then what did the A in its acronym stand for?
And really Jade, let's not get into a discussion about lying. Out of the two of us, only one has a reputation for willfully misrepresenting facts, and it's not me.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 06/06/2011 20:04:55 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 06/06/2011 20:04:36
Originally by: Jade Constantine
No letĘs be plain Rodj Blake, you told a direct and obvious lie. You said I had publicly retracted Jericho FractionĘs NRDS policy when I did no such thing. That was a lie, here in black and white. You even quote your own words stating that lie in the same breath you deny it!
Your exact words were
Originally by: Jade Constantine For security reasons, as of 14:00 eve time on the 23-Oct-2003 Venal will be closing it's borders to all non NVA or NAP members. All current non combatents present in venal space are advised to leave immediatly until the war situation can be resolved.
Once the current threat to Venal has been resolved, operations will return to normal and borders once again opened.
Any ships remaining in venal space after 14:00 do so at their own risk. Defensive forces will be operating a KOS policy during this attack.
If your vessel is trapped behind the lines then we advise you to make contact with NVA fleet assets either via local chat, or by joining the NVA public channel and finding an NVA-flagged member.
If you ask permission to leave in safety and cooporate with NVA fleet assets you will not be harmed.
This announcement covers Venal, M-ONENA and HQ6Z-L Regions specifically.
PB, K-Tay, and Fade are not closed at this time, but be aware that heightened NVA fleet patrols in these regions will be on full war alert and it is important to declare your intentions and keep an eye on local chat.
The NVA council thanks you all for your cooporation and understanding in this time of great anxiety and warlike preparation.
Your corporation was a member of the NVA at the time. I believe that you sat on its council. Now, that statement might look to some people that you were announcing that NVA vessels would be firing upon neutrals.
People can draw their own conclusions.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
And now you are wriggling ... earlier you stated plainly and boldly that IĘd made a public retraction of Jericho FractionĘs NRDS policy. Are you prepared to apologize for that mistake or would you prefer to simply have it on record as another lie to add to your history on these forums?
When you said that "defensive forces will be operating a KOS policy" and when your corporation was a part of those defensive forces, well, like I say, people can draw their own conclusions as to whether or not you were saying that your corporation was going to be operating a KOS policy.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Perhaps a problem if one needs to go digging for seven year old threads to cover blushes at being shamed by other nationalists!
I don't see an issue with discussing events of more than seven years ago, especially since this is a thread looking back on eight years of history.
But if you want to discuss more recent JF failures, there are plenty to choose from. Your failures in in space. Your failures on this forum.
And I don't feel shamed by my fellow nationalists. I know that KPV may not agree with everything we've done, but I think that they understand why we've done it. Likewise, they've done things that PIE wouldn't neccessarily have done, but I understand why they've done them.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.07 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sooplex PIE, you can no more blow sand out of your back bobbin now, than you could six years ago. I'm sick of hearing your banal rhetoric polluting this forum. You are a veritable dead dog without any power but the power of words. Deny it if you will, but all sensible observers already know you are powder puff fanatic non-entities.
People have been saying similar things about PIE for as long as I can remember. And yet it was a PIE CEO who was made a member of the Order of the Sacred Throne. It was PIE to whom the Speakers of Truth turned to when one of their number was on a mission of utmost importance. PIE was one of the corporations praised by the Hedion review for its efforts in the Bleak Lands, and it was PIE who Yonis Ardishapur singled out for special praise.
Not too shabby for a bunch of powder puff fanactic non-entities.
Quote: Though I personally appreciate your strength of 'flogging the broken idea' until death, you need to go back to your sanctums and play with your slave boys and girls, and not come out unless you want to show some actual beef to back up your vertical gas.
Don't use this honorable communication to get off on your usual cheap shots and failed literal crap.
You make a comment about playing with slave boys and then accuse me of taking cheap shots. Classy.
I was quite happy to leave this thread alone until your leader brought PIE into the discussion.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.13 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sooplex Rodj, You are a powerful figure through your own designs and clever interpretations. You suck the unwary into your sphere of influence like a man who has no qualms about bringing the dimwitted under your sway with your words. Your followers lack individualism and cohesive thought, and therefore you are left with a bunch of 'hanger-ons', a pathetic and darkly comedic state of affairs.
I do not doubt your intensity, nor do I doubt PIE's unwavering ideology, but you have no power anymore, except for vain bluster and ridiculous literal jabs that mean absolutely nothing to SF.
What? You think that piggy-backing on SF can gain you some kind of propaganda? Think again Captain Has-Been. We have no care for you or your words. I cannot personally think of anything less threatening than your holed up bunch of back-strokers spouting your usual rhetoric.
I am embarrassed that you felt the need to pull yourself from your slumber to make slurs and downright pathetic rubbish against this Corps ideology and celebration of eight years well served.
Whether we included you as part of said history should be no more than us giving you a 'leg up' as you were lucky that the SF crossed your path and pulled those golden ships from their dormant state.
Keep your sanctimonious trap shut, in fact, stick an Abbadon in it, it may just fit.
Waste of time and space, Rodj.
Quote: ...and besides, Rodj has thicker skin than a Guardian, it will take more than mere words to penetrate that gargantuan cranium.
Feel free to carry on trying. Most amusing.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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