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Culmen Caldari Vigrior The Dominion Empire	Posted - 2011.06.01 02:53:00 - [1] First of all, yes it looks pretty. Second of all, it's now much more difficult to read. The old color scheme stood out across a variety of conditions. Now it blends in with red nebulae, and there's a lense flare in the way. Seriously, who exactly was clamoring for this change? Was there really anyone who said... I really like EVE, but the cap readout needs a lense flare!!! Now I'm ok with UI changes most of the time, but why exactly is there not an option to just turn off the lense flare and transparency, or even change the cap readout color to something more visible? CCP these minor UI things are really small, but they can improve and detract from the game greatly. A little customization would go a really long way. PS: This definitely isn't quit worthy, but it's agrevatting and further more why do i even need a sig?
Rion Deteisan	Posted - 2011.06.01 02:57:00 - [2] Originally by: Culmen First of all, yes it looks pretty. Second of all, it's now much more difficult to read. The old color scheme stood out across a variety of conditions. Now it blends in with red nebulae, and there's a lense flare in the way. Maybe its an attempt to kill off some macros ratters and miners that read light levels on the screen.
JC Anderson Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.06.01 02:59:00 - [3] I haven't logged in yet since the patch.. Your serious? L flare on the cap readout?!
Skinae	Posted - 2011.06.01 03:01:00 - [4] Originally by: Rion Deteisan Maybe its an attempt to kill off some macros ratters and miners that read light levels on the screen. I totally forgot that bots did this, if CCP implemented this because of botters, good job.
Henry Haphorn Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.01 03:02:00 - [5] Originally by: Rion Deteisan Originally by: Culmen First of all, yes it looks pretty. Second of all, it's now much more difficult to read. The old color scheme stood out across a variety of conditions. Now it blends in with red nebulae, and there's a lense flare in the way. Maybe its an attempt to kill off some macros ratters and miners that read light levels on the screen. I approve this message and/or service.
JC Anderson Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.06.01 03:05:00 - [6] Originally by: Henry Haphorn Originally by: Rion Deteisan Originally by: Culmen First of all, yes it looks pretty. Second of all, it's now much more difficult to read. The old color scheme stood out across a variety of conditions. Now it blends in with red nebulae, and there's a lense flare in the way. Maybe its an attempt to kill off some macros ratters and miners that read light levels on the screen. I approve this message and/or service. Haven't seen it yet but it doesn't sound pleasant. HOWEVER, if that is the reason then I am completely willing to live with it without complaint.
Culmen Caldari Vigrior The Dominion Empire	Posted - 2011.06.01 03:06:00 - [7] Originally by: Henry Haphorn Originally by: Rion Deteisan Originally by: Culmen First of all, yes it looks pretty. Second of all, it's now much more difficult to read. The old color scheme stood out across a variety of conditions. Now it blends in with red nebulae, and there's a lense flare in the way. Maybe its an attempt to kill off some macros ratters and miners that read light levels on the screen. I approve this message and/or service. Do you know what would really stop all the botters? Removing all windows, tabs and graphics! I'd like to see them bot if logging into eve just permanently resulted in a blank screen from start to finish regardless of lag or activity! That would surely end all botting in EVE! and further more why do i even need a sig?
Jefferson H Clay	Posted - 2011.06.01 03:57:00 - [8] Originally by: Culmen I'd like to see them bot if logging into eve just permanently resulted in a blank screen from start to finish regardless of lag or activity! That would surely end all botting in EVE! You jest good sir but there are some of us who'd welcome CCP unhooking the GFX from the client side communication portion. Those of us who's operating systems favour OpenGL instead of DirectX. Yes I brought a Mac. Stop laughing. please?
Terminal Insanity Minmatar Convex Enterprises	Posted - 2011.06.01 04:39:00 - [9] Originally by: Rion Deteisan Originally by: Culmen First of all, yes it looks pretty. Second of all, it's now much more difficult to read. The old color scheme stood out across a variety of conditions. Now it blends in with red nebulae, and there's a lense flare in the way. Maybe its an attempt to kill off some macros ratters and miners that read light levels on the screen. you know what would be a great way to **** macro ratters over, is give scrams to random frigs, not just the specialy named ones
Poetic Stanziel	Posted - 2011.06.01 04:44:00 - [10] Originally by: JC Anderson I haven't logged in yet since the patch.. Your serious? L flare on the cap readout?! No light flare on the readout ... but light flare can drown out the display.

Ghoest	Posted - 2011.06.01 05:01:00 - [11] I just tested this - ya its pretty lame. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Culmen Caldari Vigrior The Dominion Empire	Posted - 2011.06.01 07:02:00 - [12] Originally by: Poetic Stanziel Originally by: JC Anderson I haven't logged in yet since the patch.. Your serious? L flare on the cap readout?! No light flare on the readout ... but light flare can drown out the display. Theres a difference? Whatever, theres a reason no game puts light flares on information vital to your survival, namely because it's information vital to your survival... and further more why do i even need a sig?
Btweeduizend Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2011.06.01 07:04:00 - [13] Pff if i have to watch a see trough screen with 10% opacity to stop botters i'm willing to take that for granted.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.01 07:14:00 - [14] Originally by: Terminal Insanity Originally by: Rion Deteisan Originally by: Culmen First of all, yes it looks pretty. Second of all, it's now much more difficult to read. The old color scheme stood out across a variety of conditions. Now it blends in with red nebulae, and there's a lense flare in the way. Maybe its an attempt to kill off some macros ratters and miners that read light levels on the screen. you know what would be a great way to **** macro ratters over, is give scrams to random frigs, not just the specialy named ones Ooh or another idea, if you rat at random times an npc titan will appear, doomsday you, and go away again. That will kill quite some bots. Serious while from other threads it should be clear I very much hate bots and want them all permabanned, making the UI even more horrible is not an option. It is probably just CCP incompetence and completely unrelated to bots, but if it is related to bots it would be stupid, giving humans a headache is not a counter to bots. Also I seriously doubt it would be hard for a bot to tell the capacitor display, if the capacitor indicator has a colour difference of 1 bit compared to the background a bot can easily find it, a human cannot. Simply said: a bot is better at reading a capacitor display that is barely vissible due to the background. Plan B: bot knows exact ship stats and knows how often he cycles shield boosters (granted warp might be bit harder to calculate), so during the times when it is invissible (for both humans and bots) it can easily calculate its approximate cap levels, way more accurate than a human can do it. In other words, if anything it is more of a boost to bots than a nerf.
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.06.01 07:19:00 - [15] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 01/06/2011 07:19:40 Its kinda hard to read the capacitor now (not that it was really pleasant before). It'd be nice if we could get a shader/texture behind it that "dims" the background/nebulas. And yes, I'm color blind. -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Jagga Spikes Minmatar Sebiestor Tribe	Posted - 2011.06.01 07:24:00 - [16] do not like. transparent UI is bad. the whole point of HUD is to be readable, and EVE UI is not. if i wanted to take pretty screenshot, i would remove UI. if i wanted to read UI data, i'm not at all interested in background behind it. even a simple black mask would do. ________________________________ : Forum Bore 'Em : Foamy The Squirrel - [jedi handwave] "There is no spoon."

CCP Spitfire C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.01 08:24:00 - [17] It is actually a bug and we're working on fixing it as soon as possible. Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online

Neamus	Posted - 2011.06.01 10:09:00 - [18] Originally by: Jefferson H Clay Originally by: Culmen I'd like to see them bot if logging into eve just permanently resulted in a blank screen from start to finish regardless of lag or activity! That would surely end all botting in EVE! You jest good sir but there are some of us who'd welcome CCP unhooking the GFX from the client side communication portion. Those of us who's operating systems favour OpenGL instead of DirectX. Yes I brought a Mac. Stop laughing. please? Oh gawd, another young life snuffed out in its prime.
Hermosa Diosas Ministry Of Mining And Industry	Posted - 2011.06.01 10:13:00 - [19] its a transparent cap readout so no matter where you spin your ship stuff underneath can be seen.. im not sure why ccp change it anyway
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.01 10:13:00 - [20] Originally by: Culmen First of all, yes it looks pretty. Second of all, it's now much more difficult to read. The old color scheme stood out across a variety of conditions. Now it blends in with red nebulae, and there's a lense flare in the way. Seriously, who exactly was clamoring for this change? Was there really anyone who said... I really like EVE, but the cap readout needs a lense flare!!! Now I'm ok with UI changes most of the time, but why exactly is there not an option to just turn off the lense flare and transparency, or even change the cap readout color to something more visible? CCP these minor UI things are really small, but they can improve and detract from the game greatly. A little customization would go a really long way. PS: This definitely isn't quit worthy, but it's agrevatting Totally agreed on everything. I'd like the old 'yellow cap' back, please. --

Joss56 Gallente Unleashed' Fury	Posted - 2011.06.01 10:17:00 - [21] Originally by: CCP Spitfire It is actually a bug and we're working on fixing it as soon as possible. Bug or not I like it better like this ________________________________________________ "You do realise you live on a globe, right? And that there places outside the USA/UK?"
Alotta Baggage Amarr Coarition of Poorry Stereotyped Asian Peopre	Posted - 2011.06.01 10:18:00 - [22] Not sure what's going on... don't undock due to making birrions on the prex market Originally by: Valkoinen Heteromies I for one would love to be able to walk on stations and fly spaceships in the body of a little cute catgirl!
Tosser Galore	Posted - 2011.06.01 10:23:00 - [23] Please bring back (optional) the black "fake widescreen" black borders for all the whiners and us bitter vets. One of the greatest features of that black border was that the modules (as well as the row of target boxes) didn't get obscured by the pretty fishbowl.
Joss56 Gallente Unleashed' Fury	Posted - 2011.06.01 10:27:00 - [24] Originally by: Tosser Galore Please bring back (optional) the black "fake widescreen" black borders for all the whiners and us bitter vets. One of the greatest features of that black border was that the modules (as well as the row of target boxes) didn't get obscured by the pretty fishbowl. I'd rather ask for those borders an option to make them invisible, excell at the screeen is not very "fashion" ________________________________________________ "You do realise you live on a globe, right? And that there places outside the USA/UK?"
Tosser Galore	Posted - 2011.06.01 10:43:00 - [25] Originally by: Joss56 Originally by: Tosser Galore Please bring back (optional) the black "fake widescreen" black borders for all the whiners and us bitter vets. One of the greatest features of that black border was that the modules (as well as the row of target boxes) didn't get obscured by the pretty fishbowl. I'd rather ask for those borders an option to make them invisible, excell at the screeen is not very "fashion" Yes that's why I said "optional". Also the new 3d-esque UI [coming this summer] wil get rid of the spreadsheetness of the current overview. Capisce?
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.06.01 10:49:00 - [26] instead of widescreen an option to have a black black thick outline to the module UI
Kiandoshia	Posted - 2011.06.01 11:02:00 - [27] Originally by: CCP Spitfire It is actually a bug and we're working on fixing it as soon as possible. The flare or the colour =X
Send More ISK	Posted - 2011.06.01 11:10:00 - [28] Edited by: Send More ISK on 01/06/2011 11:10:19 Originally by: CCP Spitfire It is actually a bug and we're working on fixing it as soon as possible. The game or the player?
Tira Mitzu Sphere Industries	Posted - 2011.06.01 11:13:00 - [29] Originally by: CCP Spitfire It is actually a bug and we're working on fixing it as soon as possible. Dear CCP, Your Eve community, claiming to be the toughest out there, almost ranted about something. When someone made the assumption it was to battle bots, they turned into lambs, almost resulting in a "GJ CCP!" "I can't see my cap, but it's for the botters so Hooah!" Perhaps now you're seeing how desperate we are for a sollution to bots, we're willing to take a hit ourselves. Kind regards.
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2011.06.01 11:37:00 - [30] Originally by: JC Anderson HOWEVER, if that is the reason then I am completely willing to live with it without complaint. Then sir, you can be assured that CCP will give you a reason since it's cheaper than fixing it. I realize that CCP makes some things more difficult on the user to combat bots. But frankly, these difficulties can generally be worked around by the bots leaving the game only more difficult on the user. So what's the point?

Reeper 2435	Posted - 2011.06.09 14:20:00 - [31] I too deal with varied color issues due to my fathers genetics lol. Most in my family are red/green color blind. When i'm spinning my camera around sometimes i lose sight of my entire capacitor on the background. The old yellow worked great for us that are sight impaired to varied degrees. Might we get a toggle switch to choose our capacitor look? Not to mention you could use that tool to judge how your clientele want things to better guess what we'd find cool in the future.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.06.09 15:11:00 - [32] Originally by: CCP Spitfire It is actually a bug and we're working on fixing it as soon as possible. Any news on when the transparency and visibility is getting fixed? How about an option in the menu? Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Xercodo Amarr Daj'Juntar	Posted - 2011.06.09 15:18:00 - [33] Originally by: Mag's Originally by: CCP Spitfire It is actually a bug and we're working on fixing it as soon as possible. Any news on when the transparency and visibility is getting fixed? How about an option in the menu? Um, it already happened, and works quite nicely actually. -------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie
salty Milk	Posted - 2011.06.09 15:18:00 - [34] why is it hard to have a selectable completely opaque black panel to sit it on? why arent we allowed this? is there a patent on readable displays held by some obscure patent troll somewhere?
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.06.09 15:21:00 - [35] Originally by: Xercodo Originally by: Mag's Originally by: CCP Spitfire It is actually a bug and we're working on fixing it as soon as possible. Any news on when the transparency and visibility is getting fixed? How about an option in the menu? Um, it already happened, and works quite nicely actually. Um actually no, in certain lighting it's still terrible. Either make it solid, or give us the option. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Frank Corncob	Posted - 2011.06.09 15:45:00 - [36] It's like that commercial on TV where the airport security is "touching" the mans genitals while his chainsaw is going through the X-ray machine. At the end of the commercial he is on the plane with his chainsaw. It's pretty funny. linky


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