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clamslayer
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Posted - 2011.06.02 18:36:00 -
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Hello,
I have been playing Eve as a trader/pirate on and off for 3 years or so.
Over the years I have put together a great trading strategy. Currently I have a good portion of my funds tied up in assets that are on the market that are taking longer to get rid of than expected.
I want to continue my trading strategy so i need a loan. I have never tried to get a loan before.
I'm offering 7% monthly return.
I'm willing to release all information except my trade strategy.
if anyone is interested let me know.
Thanks
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Lando Antilles
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Posted - 2011.06.02 18:40:00 -
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Edited by: Lando Antilles on 02/06/2011 18:41:03
stop me if you've heard this one...
collateral?
or maybe...
audit?
or better yet,
pirate/trader?
EDIT - fell for the troll/scam bait.
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Salene Gralois
K-2
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Posted - 2011.06.02 18:47:00 -
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 Originally by: clamslayer
Currently I have a good portion of my funds tied up in assets that are on the market that are taking longer to get rid of than expected.
So, your strategy doesn't really work then? 
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clamslayer
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Posted - 2011.06.02 19:40:00 -
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I'm not trying to scam anyone.
I don't have collateral, i roll everything back into the market. why would a trader have a high valued asset if he could just sell it and roll the isk into the market?
what does an audit disclose?
I'm not trying to scam, I'm trying to make isk for myself and others.
Just cuz i pirate does not mean im not trustworthy...
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Lando Antilles
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Posted - 2011.06.02 19:46:00 -
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The lack of collateral is logical, but an audit or simple fact check will at least verify that you've got some *profitable* market experience.
Originally by: clamslayer
Just cuz i pirate does not mean im not trustworthy...
pi+rate /ˈpaɪrət/ Show Spelled
[pahy-ruht] Show IPA
noun, verb, -rat+ed, -rat+ing.
ûnoun
1. a person who robs or commits illegal violence at sea or on the shores of the sea [in space for us].
2. a ship used by such persons.
3. any plunderer, predator, etc.: confidence men, slumlords, and other pirates.
Or maybe I'm jumpin to conclusions
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Fred Barbossa
Free Mineral Collective
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Posted - 2011.06.02 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lando Antilles
Or maybe I'm jumpin to conclusions
No your right anyone who pvps in this game is obviously evil. Trust is only for people who don't leave high sec.
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Jordus Melicia
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Posted - 2011.06.02 20:13:00 -
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THIS LOOKS LEGIT.
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Rafia Landras Audeles
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.02 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Fred Barbossa
Originally by: Lando Antilles
Or maybe I'm jumpin to conclusions
No your right anyone who pvps in this game is obviously evil. Trust is only for people who don't leave high sec.
Gee, I wonder why people might think that investing on random sociopaths is a bad idea.
Unprofitable ones, at that.
Perhaps you should start off this quality offering, Fred. You know, show how trustworthy he is with your own money and all that.
Also pirate = anyone who pvp's. Nice leap of logic there.
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Rot Thun
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Posted - 2011.06.02 20:28:00 -
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Evemail sent.
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.06.02 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Rot Thun
Evemail sent.
Alt detected.
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clamslayer
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Posted - 2011.06.02 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: clamslayer on 02/06/2011 21:11:50
no,not an alt... and im not trying to **** people over, i have around 18 billion in assets, every time i take a break i give my isk away in an effort to never come back, but i always do, i have made tens of billions, i dont need to steal isk...
how does collateral work? is a third party used? what are the fees?
thanks
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The Illustrious Juden
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Posted - 2011.06.02 21:17:00 -
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Edited by: The Illustrious Juden on 02/06/2011 21:18:16
Originally by: clamslayer
I'm willing to release all information except my trade strategy.
If you post your API I think that it would go a long way in terms of trustworthiness.
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Mintala Arana
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.03 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: clamslayer
how does collateral work? is a third party used? what are the fees?
Collateral: Noun: property as security against loan: property or goods used as security against a loan and forfeited if the loan is not repaid.
So if you want to borrow X billion, you put up X billion of goods as collateral. "Goods" could be BPOs, ships, modules, etc. The collateral is held by a (trusted) third party, who usually manages the loan as well (there may well be a fee for this service, I've never requested a loan of isk so I don't know from personal experience). If the loan is paid off, the collateral is returned to the borrower; if the borrower defaults, the collateral is sold (market, contracts) to pay back the lender(s).
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Commander Godsmack
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Posted - 2011.06.03 16:32:00 -
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clam it could help if you say how much it is that your looking to get a loan for
I'm neutral to all ppl until proven one direction or the other; as far as for you if you want some advice you did dun' ****ed up good when you say how you keep trying to give all your money away but now your so rich....
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btw all the piranhas looking to tear the OP a new one are engaging in a form of pvp thus by some1's previous quote making you'all pirates aswell.
Pirates preaching morales
trolls r not being detected
/me gets popcorn anyway
btw we need to get Socialized medicine ppl -i know its random but just throwing it out there; survival of the fittest model dosnt work for a civilized society.
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clamslayer
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Posted - 2011.06.03 18:20:00 -
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honesty is ****ing me over... anyone know the top escrow groups out there?
thanks
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.06.03 18:38:00 -
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If you want, I'll take a look at your API and verify any claims you may want verified.
I don't usually hold escrow, but I will help you with that too, if you want. The usual practice is valuing whatever you have in escrow at 80% of market price (or NPC price for BPO's). This is to account for fluctuations in price, and generally, to make sure that it is more attractive to you to repay the loan than dissapear while using the escrow as a pawn shop.
Go make a new disaster, that's what I'm counting on. You're someone else's problem, now I only want you gone...
http://www.eveonline.com/iNgameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1516147mcvs![/u |
clamslayer
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Posted - 2011.06.03 19:49:00 -
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what will an api show?
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Commander Godsmack
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Posted - 2011.06.03 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: clamslayer
what will an api show?
You give into peer-pressure.
m04r serious though it allows for examination of your assets + financials 'n-stuff which an audit can make conclusions about your trade strategy which you mentioned before you are not interested in disclosing.
If i may postulate theories i'd say ppl are mistrustful of you b/c u hide your face 
ppl dont like sending money an anonymous face unless Swiss banks and Cayman Island accounts are involved.
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The Illustrious Juden
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Posted - 2011.06.03 20:23:00 -
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I'd like to see if he has any trade skills.
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clamslayer
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Posted - 2011.06.03 20:42:00 -
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like i said before im not going to release anything that will show my strategy, the best i could do is release screen shots of my wallets and edit out sensitive info, but i dont know how to do that.
so its looking like this isnt going to work.
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The Illustrious Juden
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Posted - 2011.06.03 21:07:00 -
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I meant it literally but, doesn't matter
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Commander Godsmack
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Posted - 2011.06.03 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: clamslayer
so its looking like this isnt going to work.
Ofc. it wont until you say exactly how much you want to borrow otherwise you look just a hobo walking around with a sign asking for sex.
Originally by: clamslayer
like i said before im not going to release anything that will show my strategy, the best i could do is release screen shots of my wallets and edit out sensitive info, but i dont know how to do that.
If running windows....
Start>Programs>Accesories>Paint>File>Open>$[folder name/location of your screenshots]>##select file*>>> : Select censoring tool of choice - apply "members only" stickers over the naughty stuff > File > save as > ect > ect
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clamslayer
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Posted - 2011.06.03 23:45:00 -
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Edited by: clamslayer on 03/06/2011 23:55:04
Edited by: clamslayer on 03/06/2011 23:46:49
well i have my screen shots now i just need to figure out how to make them available for everyone to see...
cant figure it out... im not much of a computer guy.
also, i was thinking, with all the hate i get on here, i cant help but to think there is a chance ill get screwed over by escrow just because im a pirate. any thoughts?
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Rafia Landras Audeles
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.03 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: Rafia Landras Audeles on 03/06/2011 23:58:24
Originally by: clamslayer
Edited by: clamslayer on 03/06/2011 23:55:04
Edited by: clamslayer on 03/06/2011 23:46:49
well i have my screen shots now i just need to figure out how to make them available for everyone to see...
cant figure it out... im not much of a computer guy.
also, i was thinking, with all the hate i get on here, i cant help but to think there is a chance ill get screwed over by escrow just because im a pirate. any thoughts?
Do you really think anyone would throw their reputation out just to screw a no name faceless random?
Seriously now.
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clamslayer
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Posted - 2011.06.04 00:01:00 -
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where would the proof be? some -10 does not have much credibility... im sure im wrong... new to this loan thing
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The Illustrious Juden
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Posted - 2011.06.04 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: clamslayer
Edited by: clamslayer on 03/06/2011 23:55:04
Edited by: clamslayer on 03/06/2011 23:46:49
now i just need to figure out how to make them available for everyone to see...
cant figure it out... im not much of a computer guy.
http://www.eve-files.com/upload.dxdx
upload them there, don't forget your trade skills.
Now may I direct everyone's attention to the Brock scam thread.
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clamslayer
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Posted - 2011.06.04 01:45:00 -
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**** forgot skills...
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clamslayer
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Posted - 2011.06.04 05:08:00 -
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Edited by: clamslayer on 04/06/2011 05:09:27
ok,pretty sweet site...
anyhow, i trade with these 4 character slots.
18 billion in isk/assets on the market
another 2-3 billion in sensitive items
^^^ if i did this wront just search clam1 clam2 clam3 clam4
im legit, not trying to **** anyone over, unless i can warp scram you :)
This is an opportunity for investors to make a 7% monthly return, at the moment i dont want to take more than 3 billion in debt
edit*** ok so i didnt do it right, just search clam1 clam2 clam3 clam4 on the above mentioned site
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The Illustrious Juden
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Posted - 2011.06.04 12:45:00 -
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Yeah, I found them. If there's anyway you could put some collateral toghether I would be happy to give you a loan. Even a small collateralized successful loan would help you to get a larger one, even uncollateralized in the future. It's not about you or even the fact that you're a pirate it's more about the history of scammers and MD. That I can't offer you a large uncollateralized first time loan but you might find someone who will. Good Luck
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Mintala Arana
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.04 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: clamslayer
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im legit, not trying to **** anyone over, unless i can warp scram you :)
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If you can catch me, I deserve it. 
I agree with others who have already said that they'd consider a small loan with appropriate collateral. Is there any way you can sc**** that up? Without it, given your lack of history, you're unlikely to get a loan.
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