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Dach Starwind
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Posted - 2011.06.05 17:44:00 -
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How do I do it ? Got most obvious mod - polymer reactor array - it gets the reaction blueprint - what I need next ? Thanks in advance.
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Unar Xilen
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Posted - 2011.06.05 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Unar Xilen on 05/06/2011 20:14:50 I believe this may help http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Polymer_Reactor_Array |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
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Posted - 2011.06.05 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 05/06/2011 21:34:53
You need: * 1x Polymer Reactor Array * 1x Coupling Array (for mineral reactant input - don't use a silo, as minerals are TINY) * 2x Biochemical Silo (for fullerite gas reactant inputs) * 1x Hybrid Polymer Silo (for polymer output) * 1x Hybrid Polymer Reaction
1. Connect them all on the tower (drag-and-drop outputs on right onto inputs on left). 2. Fill the mineral and reactants storage. 3. Online the reactants and polymer storage. 4. Put the reaction in the reactor. 5. Online the reactor.
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Xearal
Minmatar SOL Industries Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.06 10:11:00 -
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Tau almost got it right.. but the precise way of setting up a reaction is thus:
Originally by: Tau Cabalander
1. Put the reaction in the reactor. 2. Set all storages to the proper type of what they need to be holding for your reaction. ( ie the right mineral for the coupler, the right gasses for the silo's, the right polymer for the output silo ) 3. Connect them all on the tower Processes tab (drag-and-drop outputs on right onto inputs on left). ( you can't do this without having set the silos to the proper types, and having the reaction in the reactor ) 4. Fill the mineral and reactants storage. 5. Online the reactants and polymer storage. 6. Online the reactor.
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Dach Starwind
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Posted - 2011.06.06 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 05/06/2011 21:40:43
You need: * 1x Polymer Reactor Array * 1x Coupling Array (for mineral reactant input - don't use a silo, as minerals are TINY) * 2x Biochemical Silo (for fullerite gas reactant inputs) * 1x Hybrid Polymer Silo (for polymer output) * 1x Hybrid Polymer Reaction
1. Connect them all on the tower Processes tab (drag-and-drop outputs on right onto inputs on left). 2. Fill the mineral and reactants storage. 3. Online the reactants and polymer storage. 4. Put the reaction in the reactor. 5. Online the reactor.
Don't do maintenance near a tower tick time (when the tower consumes fuel and does a reaction). To figure out the tower tick time, remove all but 23 Robotics and wait an hour for the low fuel warning EVE-mail, then put all the Robotics back. Look at the timestamp on the low fuel warning EVE-Mail. Avoid that time by at least 15 minutes or more before.
thank you!
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Avraham Avinu
Children of Noah
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Posted - 2011.06.06 19:24:00 -
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You might also want to put up a POS and reaction on the test servers if you've never done it before if you don't have a lot of cash for cushion on TQ. However, I'm not sure if gas if for sale on TQ.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
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Posted - 2011.06.06 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Xearal Tau almost got it right.. but the precise way of setting up a reaction is thus:
If I had a nickel for every time I edited that post... and I still messed it up.
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Dach Starwind
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Posted - 2011.06.06 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Avraham Avinu You might also want to put up a POS and reaction on the test servers if you've never done it before if you don't have a lot of cash for cushion on TQ. However, I'm not sure if gas if for sale on TQ.
Got plenty of gas - tho dunno if all this will be profitable - doing it now just for fun - to feel im not just sacking sigs and sell stuff in jita. Thinking about training up to manufacture hybrid components - dunno if that profitable too - but Science V is useful anyway
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Avraham Avinu
Children of Noah
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Posted - 2011.06.06 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dach Starwind
Originally by: Avraham Avinu You might also want to put up a POS and reaction on the test servers if you've never done it before if you don't have a lot of cash for cushion on TQ. However, I'm not sure if gas if for sale on TQ.
Got plenty of gas - tho dunno if all this will be profitable - doing it now just for fun - to feel im not just sacking sigs and sell stuff in jita. Thinking about training up to manufacture hybrid components - dunno if that profitable too - but Science V is useful anyway
Hybrid components don't have a high amount of trade volume, so I wouldn't put components as your end-of-chain selling item. Most hybrid gases are usually profitable, albeit with a very small margin.
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Xearal
Minmatar SOL Industries Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.07 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Avraham Avinu Edited by: Avraham Avinu on 06/06/2011 21:28:57 You might also want to put up a POS and reaction on the test servers if you've never done it before if you don't have a lot of cash for cushion on TQ. However, I'm not sure if gas if for sale on Singularity.
yes good idea.. and read up on the various silos and types.. you don't want to end up buying the worongs like I did on TQ and had to go back to Jita to get new ones.
Oh and Tau.. I feel you... when I first started playing with reactions, it was hell to get it all working properly, especially when I set up some more complicated stuff with multiple reactions doing paralel stuff with in/outs so catalists were going into reaction 1, coming out, then going into reaction two etc. Was worth it though, made for a much more efficient, if more demanding setup manufacturing twice the amount of stuff with less than twice the amount of upkeep in Heavy water and Liquid Ozone.
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Dach Starwind
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Posted - 2011.06.08 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Avraham Avinu
Originally by: Dach Starwind
Originally by: Avraham Avinu You might also want to put up a POS and reaction on the test servers if you've never done it before if you don't have a lot of cash for cushion on TQ. However, I'm not sure if gas if for sale on TQ.
Got plenty of gas - tho dunno if all this will be profitable - doing it now just for fun - to feel im not just sacking sigs and sell stuff in jita. Thinking about training up to manufacture hybrid components - dunno if that profitable too - but Science V is useful anyway
Hybrid components don't have a high amount of trade volume, so I wouldn't put components as your end-of-chain selling item. Most hybrid gases are usually profitable, albeit with a very small margin.
Didnt do research for jita prices - but its strange why margin is so low ? Its take fair amaunt of time to make the polymers - and logistics and poses... definetly strange
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Celia Therone
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Dach Starwind
Originally by: Avraham Avinu
Hybrid components don't have a high amount of trade volume, so I wouldn't put components as your end-of-chain selling item. Most hybrid gases are usually profitable, albeit with a very small margin.
Didnt do research for jita prices - but its strange why margin is so low ? Its take fair amaunt of time to make the polymers - and logistics and poses... definetly strange
A lot of people live in wormholes and have to have POSs up to live there. The fuel for the POS is a sunk cost that you pay even if you do nothing productive at the POS. This means that you don't really care if you don't make much money from the reaction because positive money is better than no money.
This is coupled with the fact that reaction products, like c3-ftm acid, have much smaller volumes than the gases themselves. REacting them and selling the products makes logistics much easier - fewer trips through fewer wormholes to move your loot out and convert it into isk.
I'm not really sure about the low margins. Some of the reactions are consistently awful, others are quite spiky, and the ones from class 5/class 6 wormholes (c320/c540) tend to be decent.
I've tried trading a little in components (buying to make t3 hulls) and the volume has been pretty consistently sucky. If you have the skills to make the hulls/subsystems you can make the components and there isn't much investment needed for them so I guess everyone does it themselves.
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