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Erehwon Rorschach
Minmatar Heretic Army B A N E
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Posted - 2011.06.05 23:26:00 -
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so just wondering what's going on in Querious and whether someone could fill in the blanks?
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Austneal
Minmatar Nero Fazione Consortium.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 00:24:00 -
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Shmak DatAsh got banned for "Isk Selling." My guess is that someone who wanted Shmak gone has a GM in their back pocket. He asked them for proof of his alleged isk selling and they said they "are not obligated to show you proof of anything. The accounts will remain banned."
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Erehwon Rorschach
Minmatar Heretic Army B A N E
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Posted - 2011.06.06 00:31:00 -
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so it does sound like a bit a right royal cluster ****, is this what's brought on all the standing changes and open war? |

Scavy Proximus
Gallente Liberty Storm Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 00:33:00 -
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Free Shmak DatAsh! Signed, Scavy Proximus |

Austneal
Minmatar Nero Fazione Consortium.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 00:35:00 -
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I'm not sure, to be honest. I would guess that they had something to do with Shmak's being banned.... but I can't say for sure. Basically, everyone who rented from K7D and above was reset.
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Silas Vitalia
Amarr Khanid Provincial Vanguard Vanguard Imperium
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Posted - 2011.06.06 03:27:00 -
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No one from K7D and above is renting, thank you very much, but yes Atlas has reset quite a few groups. I'm sure there will be plenty of encouraging and disparaging words thrown about over the next few days.
Silas Vitalia CEO Khanid Provincial Vanguard Open for Recruitment!
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Silas Vitalia
Amarr Khanid Provincial Vanguard Vanguard Imperium
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Posted - 2011.06.06 03:30:00 -
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Also ATLAS can of course speak to this better, but pew pew aside, to my knowledge the RMT allegations against Shmak were untrue.
Silas Vitalia CEO Khanid Provincial Vanguard Open for Recruitment!
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Erehwon Rorschach
Minmatar Heretic Army B A N E
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Posted - 2011.06.06 03:52:00 -
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So in this regard then I'm guessing Atlas aim to regain control of the systems and get a little more living space whilst generally attacking anyone who is in there way of getting the job done.
Does this come with any of the rumours of Atlas helping PL for some pre-attack movement and any of the other mumbo jumbo that's floating around the pipe.
Do -A- endorse these attacks and claims to space? or is it totally irrelevant what they think?
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Austneal
Minmatar Nero Fazione Consortium.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 03:54:00 -
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Edited by: Austneal on 06/06/2011 03:54:58 No, the RMT allegations are true. I'm convinced of his innocence, however. I didn't ask him what the transactions truly were, but others say he was reimbursing people for ship losses. Also, these transactions happened in 2009. Funny how they're just now getting around to it.
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Lady Bonnet
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.06 04:17:00 -
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I too am bi-querious. Wait what?
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Zangorus
Amarr Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 04:22:00 -
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Free shmak
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ACF Cadelanne
Gallente The Disney World Federation Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 04:23:00 -
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Edited by: ACF Cadelanne on 06/06/2011 04:23:26 The ISK transfers happened over two years ago for buying strategic crap. Someone that doesn't like Shmak convinced a GM that Shmak was selling ISK.. so meta
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Jubal Sexton
Minmatar Liberty Storm Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 04:24:00 -
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Free Shmak Datash!!!!!!!!
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72inches
Minmatar Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 04:29:00 -
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aye free shmak datash
oh and ccp: your mom
not sure why you'd want to permaban someone for nothing but **** happens i guess
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Zangorus
Amarr Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 05:00:00 -
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Originally by: Silas Vitalia No one from K7D and above is renting, thank you very much, but yes Atlas has reset quite a few groups. I'm sure there will be plenty of encouraging and disparaging words thrown about over the next few days.
thats just what ur CEOs tell u..
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Noxious Odor
Gallente Jian Products Engineering Group Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 05:52:00 -
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I for one would love to see any proof. Unless anyone can present convincing proof I do not and will not believe it. Also, I would like to raise a point, whats to keep other people from making false allegations and having them banned????? It would be like the Salem witch trials or McCarthyism.
FREE SMAK!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Demitrios
Amarr Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 06:51:00 -
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Edited by: Demitrios on 06/06/2011 06:54:21 FREE SHMAK DATASH!
Also insert another bi-querious joke here. :)
Originally by: Noxious Odor I for one would love to see any proof. Unless anyone can present convincing proof I do not and will not believe it. Also, I would like to raise a point, whats to keep other people from making false allegations and having them banned????? It would be like the Salem witch trials or McCarthyism.
FREE SMAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You aren't the only one that would love to see proof, but "the logs show nothing"...
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Leto Hellrock
Gallente Manson Family Corcoran State
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Posted - 2011.06.06 07:35:00 -
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I didn't really read the thread. I just wanna offer my alliance's services, if/when anyone launches against Atlas. Please, just mail me a date and I will deploy immediately.
Ventro69
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Adonis Gunther
Gallente Broski Federation Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.06 08:12:00 -
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Free Karttoon.
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Headerman
Minmatar Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.06.06 08:34:00 -
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Free BEER!!!
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Erehwon Rorschach
Minmatar Heretic Army B A N E
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Posted - 2011.06.06 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Bonnet I too am bi-querious. Wait what?
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Sir HappyPants
Amarr Phantom Squad Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jubal Sexton Free Shmak Datash!!!!!!!!
Free Shmak Datash!!!!!!!!
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DJB16
Gallente Phantom Squad Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 16:33:00 -
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Edited by: DJB16 on 06/06/2011 16:35:48 shmak asked the alliance he was leading at the time for donations to BUY a station egg and get it however the persons got ganked in highsec so shmak REFUNDED everyone who donated there isk back and decided to reimburse some capital losses at the same time from a fight that happened about the same time
how ever he did it out of HIS OWN POCKET (refunding people is alot easyer with ur own wallet than from the alliance fund i believe but didnt put any reason code into the isk xfers he sent so someone that he refunded must not of liked shmak and gone back and told ccp to get rid of him OR CCP CANT READ LOSS MAILS AND ALLIANCE MAILS FROM THE TIME SO THEY HAVE NO EVIDENCE yet for some reason they just banned him and would not listen
during fleets shamk has given out personal ships (my first cynabal ) and paid for replacements himself and bought alot aswell
the reason shmak had the isk to do it is coz an old mate of his GAVE him several titan fits
he has a LONG TERM DECENT JOB WITH DECENT CASH HE HAS NO NEED OF RMT SO ALL ALLEGATIONS ARE FALSE
FREE SHAMK DATASH!!!! FREE SHAMK DATASH!!!! FREE SHAMK DATASH!!!! FREE SHAMK DATASH!!!! FREE SHAMK DATASH!!!! FREE SHAMK DATASH!!!! FREE SHAMK DATASH!!!! FREE SHAMK DATASH!!!! FREE SHAMK DATASH!!!! FREE SHAMK DATASH!!!! <3 Shmak
i LIKE this game but if CCP are gonna be tossers and ban GOOD LEGIT PLAYERS coz they dont want to right a reason for refunding more than 50 players their isk after something they wanted to get (the station egg) got ganked and destroyed and capital reimbursements from large fights then i just see eve going down the pan with or without walking in stations
north Q got reset coz they were being ahats saying they kicked out test/PL and everyone else when they basicly did jack **** it was planed for some time and cascade and AAA both know and agreed on the rest of these idiots
this is MY opinion and does not reflect my corp or alliances opinions/goals/intentions/etc
FREE SHAMK DATASH!!!! FREE SHAMK DATASH!!!! FREE SHAMK DATASH!!!! FREE SHAMK DATASH!!!! FREE SHAMK DATASH!!!! FREE SHAMK DATASH!!!! FREE SHAMK DATASH!!!! <3 Shmak
*edit i cant be bothered to correct my spelling mistakes so dont bother saying about it and this is all im gonna say on the subject and im not returning to this thread
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Nostradamous
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 16:41:00 -
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Well shmaks not the only one that caught the wrong end of the ban hammer vOv
Originally by: DJB16 during fleets shamk has given out personal ships (my first cynabal ) and paid for replacements himself and bought alot aswell
and he had personal ships to give out because he was always using one of mine.....
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theghosthunter
Caldari Phantom Squad Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 17:52:00 -
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Free Shmak DatAsh!
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Jugs Malone
Gallente Dark Skies Coalition
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Posted - 2011.06.06 18:14:00 -
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Ok.. just to be a bit serious for a moment. Yeah I know where we are. CAOD is not known for seriousness but indulge me.
1. Is there really that much RMT, selling isk/assets etc going on? Give me an idea how big the whole thing has got. 2. If there is as much RMT going on as you, the NC and whoever is loosing the current war/s claim shouldn't the efforts of CCP be applauded when routing out such nefarious actions? 3. Surely the GM's are incorruptible.
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DJB16
Gallente Phantom Squad Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: DJB16 on 06/06/2011 18:47:43 i know i said i wouldnt come back to this thread but i had to
Originally by: Jugs Malone Ok.. just to be a bit serious for a moment. Yeah I know where we are. CAOD is not known for seriousness but indulge me.
1. Is there really that much RMT, selling isk/assets etc going on? Give me an idea how big the whole thing has got. 2. If there is as much RMT going on as you, the NC and whoever is loosing the current war/s claim shouldn't the efforts of CCP be applauded when routing out such nefarious actions? 3. Surely the GM's are incorruptible.
1 goto google and search eve online isk buying and find out chances are ull find atleast 10 websites i ofc WONT post any links ull have to find them urself chances are these websites EMPLOY hackers/people to run chars/accounts via mining ratting missions macro bots (prob over 50 chars on bots) etc(and this is an answer to a question ccp dont ban me for it or u will how show more evidence of my answer in question 3....)
2 heh how about ccp FIX their tools so that they GET IT RIGHT FIRST TIME AND LISTEN TO APPEALS AND FACTS
3 u havent been playing eve that long ask around about t20 mining lasers and the relationship between old bob and gms/devs and how shrike got his (first) titan reimbursed after a very laggy fight when if there was no lag the outcome would have been the same coz the bubbles would have stay up all the time anyway and then turn around and say our logs show nothing in other fights with LESS lag
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Minmatar Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.07 10:21:00 -
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I thought you weren't coming back to this thread? ---
"PT, you are a complete and total jerk."
Yes. Yes I am.
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Headerman
Minmatar Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.06.07 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: DJB16 Edited by: DJB16 on 06/06/2011 18:47:43 i know i said i wouldnt come back to this thread but i had to
Originally by: Jugs Malone Ok.. just to be a bit serious for a moment. Yeah I know where we are. CAOD is not known for seriousness but indulge me.
1. Is there really that much RMT, selling isk/assets etc going on? Give me an idea how big the whole thing has got. 2. If there is as much RMT going on as you, the NC and whoever is loosing the current war/s claim shouldn't the efforts of CCP be applauded when routing out such nefarious actions? 3. Surely the GM's are incorruptible.
1 goto google and search eve online isk buying and find out chances are ull find atleast 10 websites i ofc WONT post any links ull have to find them urself chances are these websites EMPLOY hackers/people to run chars/accounts via mining ratting missions macro bots (prob over 50 chars on bots) etc(and this is an answer to a question ccp dont ban me for it or u will how show more evidence of my answer in question 3....)
2 heh how about ccp FIX their tools so that they GET IT RIGHT FIRST TIME AND LISTEN TO APPEALS AND FACTS
3 u havent been playing eve that long ask around about t20 mining lasers and the relationship between old bob and gms/devs and how shrike got his (first) titan reimbursed after a very laggy fight when if there was no lag the outcome would have been the same coz the bubbles would have stay up all the time anyway and then turn around and say our logs show nothing in other fights with LESS lag
No, you didn't have to.
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Ajurna Jakar
Gallente Jian Products Engineering Group Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.07 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Erehwon Rorschach Does this come with any of the rumours of Atlas helping PL for some pre-attack movement and any of the other mumbo jumbo that's floating around the pipe.
we are helping pl all the time. ATLAS. is just a pl alt corp to get spies in the south. thats why they attacked us when we moved to Q
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Darwin Duck
Caldari Xeno Tech Corp Vanguard Imperium
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Posted - 2011.06.07 13:30:00 -
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I have no idea whats true or not. But I can't believe CCP just ban ppl without any proof. They want ppl playing so they can get our hard earned cash once a month. Waving the ban-stick without reason is not the way to go to keep the money flowing in.
But like I said, I don't know whats happened.
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Roocker
Minmatar Malevolent Intentions Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.07 13:45:00 -
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Free Shmak DatAsh!
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Levaria
Gallente Incertae Sedis Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.07 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ajurna Jakar
Originally by: Erehwon Rorschach Does this come with any of the rumours of Atlas helping PL for some pre-attack movement and any of the other mumbo jumbo that's floating around the pipe.
we are helping pl all the time. ATLAS. is just a pl alt corp to get spies in the south. thats why they attacked us when we moved to Q
Confirming Atlas is aftermentioned red headed step child alt Corp/Alliance of PL. We are currently quite busy and cannot actively reply to this thread and are manhandling the PL batphone. ~Pirates May Cry but Care Bears will die!~
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Nostradamous
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.07 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Darwin Duck I have no idea whats true or not. But I can't believe CCP just ban ppl without any proof. They want ppl playing so they can get our hard earned cash once a month. Waving the ban-stick without reason is not the way to go to keep the money flowing in.
But like I said, I don't know whats happened.
You mind asking if they can return my alt to me then?....
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elgluth
Minmatar Third Return Inc. Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.07 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: elgluth on 07/06/2011 22:26:53 Get it right. He didn't ask for donations, he demanded them, then decided to fly a freighter 5 jumps through lowsec while being tailed by neutrals. Then afterwards started a power struggle in the alliance because no one wanted to hand him another 30 billion just so he could do it again. He deserved to lose it plain and simple. And he did NOT repay his biggest contributors. His whole excuse was "the cap fleet was too far away". He's a noob and probably deserves what he got end of story. As to whether he was involved in RMT that is for ccp to decide. But my guess is he probably was if they say so. He was probably scrambling for a way to get a new egg as no one wanted to give him another isk for it.
Originally by: DJB16 Edited by: DJB16 on 06/06/2011 16:35:48 shmak asked the alliance he was leading at the time for donations to BUY a station egg and get it however the persons got ganked in highsec so shmak REFUNDED everyone who donated there isk back and decided to reimburse some capital losses at the same time from a fight that happened about the same time
how ever he did it out of HIS OWN POCKET (refunding people is alot easyer with ur own wallet than from the alliance fund i believe but didnt put any reason code into the isk xfers he sent so someone that he refunded must not of liked shmak and gone back and told ccp to get rid of him OR CCP CANT READ LOSS MAILS AND ALLIANCE MAILS FROM THE TIME SO THEY HAVE NO EVIDENCE yet for some reason they just banned him and would not listen
during fleets shamk has given out personal ships (my first cynabal ) and paid for replacements himself and bought alot aswell
the reason shmak had the isk to do it is coz an old mate of his GAVE him several titan fits
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Nostradamous
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.07 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: elgluth Stuff
Wow....you okay bro? Maybe eve isn't the game for you as you seem upset....
Also I know for a fact Shmak wasnt RMTing....
FREE SHMAK DATASH......and my alt Sirus McCabe...
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elgluth
Minmatar Third Return Inc. Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.07 22:37:00 -
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Edited by: elgluth on 07/06/2011 22:39:07 Heh, you think I'm upset? You shoulda seen him after he did it. In eve, I can shoot idiots that annoy me...and him and his cronies got shot up plenty in the aftermath. Yea, guess theres a downside. Free shmak so I can pod him! :)
Originally by: Nostradamous
Originally by: elgluth Stuff
Wow....you okay bro? Maybe eve isn't the game for you as you seem upset....
Also I know for a fact Shmak wasnt RMTing....
FREE SHMAK DATASH......and my alt Sirus McCabe...
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Nostradamous
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.07 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: elgluth Heh, you think I'm upset? You shoulda seen him after he did it.
Umm.....I was in ConsortiumDOT and I do believe I was around for that, if not I was back in DTHI and still talkin to em on MsN every day...
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elgluth
Minmatar Third Return Inc. Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.07 22:52:00 -
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Edited by: elgluth on 07/06/2011 22:57:42 Edited by: elgluth on 07/06/2011 22:57:07
Originally by: Nostradamous
Originally by: elgluth Heh, you think I'm upset? You shoulda seen him after he did it.
Umm.....I was in ConsortiumDOT and I do believe I was around for that, if not I was back in DTHI and still talkin to em on MsN every day...
As was I, the corp I am in contributed 10 billion to the first egg, we were never reimbursed, in fact he demanded we contribute another 10 billion or leave the alliance. We left, and shot up alot of consortium[dot] members on the way out and successfully defended our pos from their fail attempt to reinforce it. All because their cap fleet was too far away. He tried to hide the fact that it happened in lowsec from everyone. Even deleted the lossmail from the killboard several times before finally being forced to admit it was lost.
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Havoc Zealot
Amarr Advent Chaos Theory KRYSIS.
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Posted - 2011.06.09 08:01:00 -
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Well, today went pretty good for AtlasDOT and it's allies.
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Silas Vitalia
Amarr Khanid Provincial Vanguard Vanguard Imperium
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Posted - 2011.06.09 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Havoc Zealot Well, today went pretty good for AtlasDOT and it's allies.
Was a fun engagement. To be fair though I wish you all would be a tad more aggressive. Outnumbering us nearly 2:1 for that fight and still waiting on your side of the gate for twenty minutes is a bit boring. You had more people, faster ships, and more backup, and we still had to push the fight on you?
I'm proud of my boys though, knowing the odds I let them all take a vote and the vast majority still wanted to go in guns blazing. We got pasted but very proud of them ;)
More to come I'm sure.
Silas Vitalia CEO Khanid Provincial Vanguard Open for Recruitment!
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Mouse Boy
Caldari Aktaeon Industries The Black Armada
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Posted - 2011.06.10 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Silas Vitalia
Originally by: Havoc Zealot Well, today went pretty good for AtlasDOT and it's allies.
Was a fun engagement. To be fair though I wish you all would be a tad more aggressive. Outnumbering us nearly 2:1 for that fight and still waiting on your side of the gate for twenty minutes is a bit boring. You had more people, faster ships, and more backup, and we still had to push the fight on you?
I'm proud of my boys though, knowing the odds I let them all take a vote and the vast majority still wanted to go in guns blazing. We got pasted but very proud of them ;)
More to come I'm sure.
:popcorn:
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ACF Cadelanne
Gallente The Disney World Federation Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.10 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Silas Vitalia
Originally by: Havoc Zealot Well, today went pretty good for AtlasDOT and it's allies.
Was a fun engagement. To be fair though I wish you all would be a tad more aggressive. Outnumbering us nearly 2:1 for that fight and still waiting on your side of the gate for twenty minutes is a bit boring. You had more people, faster ships, and more backup, and we still had to push the fight on you?
I'm proud of my boys though, knowing the odds I let them all take a vote and the vast majority still wanted to go in guns blazing. We got pasted but very proud of them ;)
More to come I'm sure.
Nearly 2:1? Maybe on the killboard. I had the numbers at 41:53 in FAIL/Atlas favor.
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