Pages: [1] :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Shanara As
Psy Corp Ltd.
0
|
Posted - 2012.09.10 11:00:00 -
[1] - Quote
TBH,
my first try in Dust Beta was going like this: Paid for PSnetwork Plus. to get into Beta.
Downloaded for hours. Installed, downloaded some more (more hours) started the game. "Captains Quarters" openend and i was a bit -- down after that. Did a bit walking around, not very intuitive but so what.
Chose my battle-outfit and took the "Instant Battle" Route.
Worked very well up to this point. no Hickups, no glitches, all great.
After a few seconds I was asked to choose ma spawn point ? Took the standard one because I didnt know better.
Got killed 3 seconds later....3 times.
Chose a different spawn point...
got killed 3 seconds later.... 4 times.
next step: ragequit deinstalled.
yesterday: downloaded again. will try again.
no way that my poor skills with a controller and my total lack of understanding of game mechanics will hinder me in getting a full view of the game.
reason: if dust wins, eve wins. and i love the idea that one time i can get more planets to work PI for me because i can hire a bunch of maniacs attacking and conqering those planets...
|
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
623
|
Posted - 2012.09.10 11:04:00 -
[2] - Quote
Look for blues and greens around your spawn points. They're on your side.
Reds around your spawn point means there are enemies waiting nearby. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
Shanara As
Psy Corp Ltd.
0
|
Posted - 2012.09.10 11:06:00 -
[3] - Quote
Steve Ronuken wrote:Look for blues and greens around your spawn points. They're on your side.
Reds around your spawn point means there are enemies waiting nearby.
thx. will hopefully help a lot :-) |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
623
|
Posted - 2012.09.10 11:11:00 -
[4] - Quote
Another thing to do is join us on the #dust514-beta channel, on irc.coldfront.net
Instructions here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=22699&find=unread
Having people to talk to, in an nda approved environment, is always useful FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
Celgar Thurn
Department 10
53
|
Posted - 2012.09.10 11:45:00 -
[5] - Quote
I've decided I am going to get a PS3 to play DUST 514 although I will probably get other games for it as well. But I know very little about PS3 and the 'PSnetwork Plus' you mentioned. If I had a beta code from CCP via subscribing to EVE Online or bought the Mercenary pack,for example, do I have to pay to join 'PSNetwork Plus' or something else on the PS3 as well to be able to play DUST 514 ? |
Shanara As
Psy Corp Ltd.
0
|
Posted - 2012.09.10 11:48:00 -
[6] - Quote
well ihad the code from ccp (of corse i appield for beta) and yet when i logged into the psn store it tolde me i couldnt download it so i had to upgrade to psn plus. but TBH, i dont know if that was just for me becaise it took me 6 freakin weeks to get a www-connection in my new apartment hus my ccp voucher wasn-¦t there anymore...
|
Nicholas Barker
Reikoku The Retirement Club
1
|
Posted - 2012.09.10 11:57:00 -
[7] - Quote
If you're hoping to mouse and keyboard support, prepared to be horribly disappointed. |
Shanara As
Psy Corp Ltd.
0
|
Posted - 2012.09.10 11:58:00 -
[8] - Quote
Nicholas Barker wrote:If you're hoping to mouse and keyboard support, prepared to be horribly disappointed.
i thought thats already implemented ?
|
Nicholas Barker
Reikoku The Retirement Club
1
|
Posted - 2012.09.10 12:01:00 -
[9] - Quote
Shanara As wrote:Nicholas Barker wrote:If you're hoping to mouse and keyboard support, prepared to be horribly disappointed. i thought thats already implemented ?
They've implemented something, but it ain't mouse support. |
Domer Pyle
Northwest Industries International Technical Exploration Conglomerate of Hemera
21
|
Posted - 2012.09.10 17:58:00 -
[10] - Quote
Shanara As wrote:TBH,
...
Got killed 3 seconds later....3 times.
Chose a different spawn point...
got killed 3 seconds later.... 4 times.
next step: ragequit deinstalled.
...
that's called spawn camping, and it's a staple of nearly every fps ever. welcome to the genre. |
|
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
679
|
Posted - 2012.09.10 22:55:00 -
[11] - Quote
Celgar Thurn wrote:I've decided I am going to get a PS3 to play DUST 514 although I will probably get other games for it as well. But I know very little about PS3 and the 'PSnetwork Plus' you mentioned. If I had a beta code from CCP via subscribing to EVE Online or bought the Mercenary pack,for example, do I have to pay to join 'PSNetwork Plus' or something else on the PS3 as well to be able to play DUST 514 ?
get PSN+, the free games you get are a decent bargain. I haven't bought many games in the 2 years I had a ps3 because i just play whatever I get on PSN+.
also fat princess is an amazing game, ffs people try the demo then judge it. |
Optimo Sebiestor
The Society Calyxes
1
|
Posted - 2012.09.10 22:59:00 -
[12] - Quote
Domer Pyle wrote:Shanara As wrote:TBH,
...
Got killed 3 seconds later....3 times.
Chose a different spawn point...
got killed 3 seconds later.... 4 times.
next step: ragequit deinstalled.
...
that's called spawn camping, and it's a staple of nearly every fps ever. welcome to the genre.
Say you have a mate, say he has some brains. Maybe you can work your way around the camping issue.
|
Shanara As
Psy Corp Ltd.
0
|
Posted - 2012.09.11 07:27:00 -
[13] - Quote
Optimo Sebiestor wrote:Domer Pyle wrote:Shanara As wrote:TBH,
...
Got killed 3 seconds later....3 times.
Chose a different spawn point...
got killed 3 seconds later.... 4 times.
next step: ragequit deinstalled.
...
that's called spawn camping, and it's a staple of nearly every fps ever. welcome to the genre. Say you have a mate, say he has some brains. Maybe you can work your way around the camping issue.
nice genre then :-) and yeah i heard that teamplay is an essential factor in playing these games :-) thx |
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
166
|
Posted - 2012.09.11 07:42:00 -
[14] - Quote
Domer Pyle wrote:Shanara As wrote:TBH,
...
Got killed 3 seconds later....3 times.
Chose a different spawn point...
got killed 3 seconds later.... 4 times.
next step: ragequit deinstalled.
...
that's called spawn camping, and it's a staple of nearly every fps ever. welcome to the genre.
Not just FPS - any PVP game with unbalanced "sides". It was very common in WAR, it happened in WoW, it kind of happens in eve when people camp the undock. It's fun for a while if you get to do the camping, but it gets boring after a while. The best PVP is more balanced. |
Shanara As
Psy Corp Ltd.
0
|
Posted - 2012.09.11 07:57:00 -
[15] - Quote
Anya Ohaya wrote:Domer Pyle wrote:Shanara As wrote:TBH,
...
Got killed 3 seconds later....3 times.
Chose a different spawn point...
got killed 3 seconds later.... 4 times.
next step: ragequit deinstalled.
...
that's called spawn camping, and it's a staple of nearly every fps ever. welcome to the genre. Not just FPS - any PVP game with unbalanced "sides". It was very common in WAR, it happened in WoW, it kind of happens in eve when people camp the undock. It's fun for a while if you get to do the camping, but it gets boring after a while. The best PVP is more balanced.
regarding spawn camping: I remember spawn-kill-routes from Unreal Tournament. You would just run from one loot / player spawn to the next and kill everything on the way. regarding PVP balancing: have to strongly agree- especially eve PVP is not what it used to be. the day when blob warfare became the new pvp in eve still was the saddest day in eve-lution...i know its a viable strategy (whatever wroks wins is the best) but its ugly and requires no skill at all. just to be there.
|
Lyric Lahnder
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
108
|
Posted - 2012.09.18 17:31:00 -
[16] - Quote
Nicholas Barker wrote:Shanara As wrote:Nicholas Barker wrote:If you're hoping to mouse and keyboard support, prepared to be horribly disappointed. i thought thats already implemented ? They've implemented something, but it ain't mouse support.
Turn speed on mouse in keyboard right now slows response time to that of a controller.
Being in a scout suit with your sensivitivy set all the way up tends to help negate this but its still there.
Both of you give it a shot see if it helps. Noir. and Noir Academy are recruiting apply at www.noirmercs.comI Noir Academy: 60 days old must be able to fly at least one tech II frigate. I Noir. Recruits: 4:1 k/d ratio and can fly tech II cruisers. |
Shanara As
Psy Corp Ltd.
403
|
Posted - 2012.09.18 17:52:00 -
[17] - Quote
i was playing Dust extensively during the weekend. not for days but so mch that i racked up some kills ...finally.
I still see the mechanics somewhat.... flawed.
the game itself seems to me as pay2win, as the good weapons and modules cost aurum. also players with distinct halo or PS3 / console shooter experience just pawn everyone on the map.
its just not balanced at all. movement and turning / aiming is brutally slow.
i have to admit I bight the merc pack just to get some stuff (and since I got a new job i can aforrd to spend for my hobby) but I seriously doubt i will train enough with the controller to be able to really enjoy the game.
and that-¦s what i would have to do: rack up ample training time to really stay alive. getting killed 8 times for every kill i inflict just aint fun.
"Gotta spend money to make money" "A fool talks, a wise man listens" "He who doesn-¦t wanna listen, talks the most"
|
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4651
|
Posted - 2012.09.18 20:51:00 -
[18] - Quote
Shanara As wrote: the game itself seems to me as pay2win, as the good weapons and modules cost aurum.
You can't buy equivalent items for ISK? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
650
|
Posted - 2012.09.18 20:54:00 -
[19] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Shanara As wrote: the game itself seems to me as pay2win, as the good weapons and modules cost aurum.
You can't buy equivalent items for ISK?
You can.
Aurum is pretty much: Pay to avoid having to grind. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
212
|
Posted - 2012.09.18 22:36:00 -
[20] - Quote
Steve Ronuken wrote:Malcanis wrote:Shanara As wrote: the game itself seems to me as pay2win, as the good weapons and modules cost aurum.
You can't buy equivalent items for ISK? You can. Aurum is pretty much: Pay to avoid having to grind. This, except for the aurum only SP boosters which are kinda both (public knowledge, so no NDA violations) - though that'll cease to be an issue once the markets up and running properly.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Mate. |
|
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
655
|
Posted - 2012.09.18 22:40:00 -
[21] - Quote
Even the SP boosters are just: Pay to avoid having to grind
It's not like you can't get the same number of SP, by just playing more. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
Shanara As
Psy Corp Ltd.
409
|
Posted - 2012.09.19 11:32:00 -
[22] - Quote
well. you need SP to skill up and be en par. and money to buy weapons to be en par with all the rest.
you can now either
grind your ass out or pay aurum , which costs RL-money.
so, imagine not everyone has a job where 4 hours / day will suffice. so grinding is out of the question. so he needs to get aurum to be en par.
lets say he grinds his ass out. yeah he-¦s en par.
but only with those who do one of those options.
what about those players, who grind like kids in a chinese sweatshop AND pay for aurum.
wouldnt those few elite players hold a distinct advantage over the others ?
so , please tell me again that ANY form of enabling the normal skill-development to be faster / better / advanced is not Pay2Win and does not give a distinct advantage and I will strongheartedly disagree.
also, I don-¦t think that the concept o skill development for item prerequsitites like in eve go well together with a real life skill needed of a FPS game. no matter how greta my game-skills that give me access to better items will be, i might as well drop down dead and surrender into POW status on the server once a lifelong Halo-Padawan or any other PS3 FPS veteran comes around. thats the basic realisation i came to when I last played the game.
"Gotta spend money to make money" "A fool talks, a wise man listens" "He who doesn-¦t wanna listen, talks the most"
|
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
85
|
Posted - 2012.09.22 08:52:00 -
[23] - Quote
as the skill system is similar to EVE's you can only max out so much.. as in EVE, the 'distinct advantage' would be to be more versatile and adaptive.. If CCP ever wanted this to stop they'd need to put in a ceiling on those SP a char can amass, but as this is not a problem it won't change. Get used to it. As for getting better on those controllers via training.. yeah, unless someone invents a brain-upload-device that would let you have the abilities of the top-controller-guy for some hard cash get used to the drivel that is learning+training something to get better at it ;-) |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
661
|
Posted - 2012.09.22 19:32:00 -
[24] - Quote
There is an answer for this, unfortunately, it's covered by the NDA FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
90
|
Posted - 2012.09.24 10:52:00 -
[25] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Shanara As wrote: the game itself seems to me as pay2win, as the good weapons and modules cost aurum.
You can't buy equivalent items for ISK?
As far as I'm aware from what CCP have said you can buy items for AUR or Isk.
The AUR items are no better then the Isk items, you'll just get to use them without as much skills needed or whatever.
This isn't pay to win, this is pay to not spend ages grinding skills. This is basically the same as EVEs pay not to grind isk. With enough time an Isk only player should be able to beat an AUR player, or more accurately go toe to toe.
If someone wants to pay daft money to not wait a few months for skills thats fine by me. In a few months I'll be doing for free what they paid to do. |
|
|
|
Pages: [1] :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |