| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Rek Jaiga
Minmatar
Crimson Path
Shaktipat Revelators
   |
Posted - 2011.06.09 23:10:00 -
[1]
Oh boy, here we go again...
It is neither religion nor the lack thereof that causes people to be irrational or lack humility/etc. It is the individual person. The fact that there are both theists and atheists that are equally stupid and vain demonstrates this.
Unity Prevails. |
Rek Jaiga
Minmatar
Crimson Path
Shaktipat Revelators
|
Posted - 2011.06.12 01:57:00 -
[2]
I'm not sure how the scriptures regard slavery. It is said that those who need to be brought to the light of God most be put in the holy bonds of slavery. What if these holy bonds are not literal slavery, but a metaphor for human nature? What if all of us are in the holy bonds of slavery; what if we are all slaves to sin and human nature?
Can anyone more learned in Amarrian theology discuss this with me?
Unity Prevails. |
Rek Jaiga
Minmatar
Crimson Path
Shaktipat Revelators
|
Posted - 2011.06.13 21:37:00 -
[3]
 Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Actually, I once wrote a logically sound proof of the Amarrian God's nonexistence.
You realize the word "sound" has a very strict definition in the context of logical proofs, right? You say you won't repeat it here, but please present this argument to me for evaluation. I like analyzing formal arguments.
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Oh, I'm a big supporter of civil rights. I tend to draw the line at ideologies which intend to destroy humanity.
Technically the true goal of the Amarr religion is to bring enlightenment and the light of God to the entire cluster. That really is their honest goal; don't let the propaganda flicks build too convincing a straw man. There are plenty of peaceful adherents to the Amarrian faith within your own Federation and even the Republic that discredit the view of the Amarr faith attempting to destroy humanity.
Unity Prevails. |
Rek Jaiga
Minmatar
Crimson Path
Shaktipat Revelators
|
Posted - 2011.06.13 21:47:00 -
[4]
Originally by: Sir Oliver Midwestshire
We may a tough time proving our God is true, but you have no chance in proving he isn't. And plus, it's better to believe in God and find out he doesn't exist than to not believe and find out he does.
That's some pretty weak reasoning, though. Arguing that you are justified in something simply because it cannot be disproven is an informal logical fallacy known as "argument from ignorance". As for the "gamble" scenario you presented, if an individual were to live their life out not believing in God and found out that (s)he does in fact exist that would still be a pretty postive situation: a die-hard atheist granted eternal life (albeit one full of suffering and punishment) is still better than...not existing. To have your existence be permanent is excellent.
All I'm saying is there are stronger arguments that justify the belief in God.
Unity Prevails. |
Rek Jaiga
Minmatar
Crimson Path
Shaktipat Revelators
|
Posted - 2011.06.13 22:08:00 -
[5]
Edited by: Rek Jaiga on 13/06/2011 22:08:53
Originally by: Sir Oliver Midwestshire
You have eternal life, yes, but it can either be a gift or a curse. A curse set aside for those who do not accept the Amarrian faith.
Depends on one's viewpoint. An atheist might view it as an upgrade; if you can cope with Hell, it can't be that bad, right?
Of course it goes without saying that I do not believe in a no-win situation; if it looks bad, I can always extract something positive from it.
Edit: had more to say.
Unity Prevails. |
Rek Jaiga
Minmatar
Crimson Path
Shaktipat Revelators
|
Posted - 2011.06.13 22:12:00 -
[6]
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
So what happens if you believe in God all your life, and have thusly restricted yourself from a more fulfilling, enjoyable life, and he doesn't exist? You've wasted the only life you have.
If practiced correctly, religion should not at all interfere with leading an enjoyable life and in fact should actually aid one in enjoying life. Clearly, of course, many religions tend to focus on the afterlife and the rewards yielded from practicing "their" religion. This too is the wrong approach, in my mind.
Unity Prevails. |
Rek Jaiga
Minmatar
Crimson Path
Shaktipat Revelators
|
Posted - 2011.06.14 01:02:00 -
[7]
Originally by: Lyn Farel
Originally by: Rek Jaiga
Technically the true goal of the Amarr religion is to bring enlightenment and the light of God to the entire cluster.
No, this is not the main purpose of the Amarr religion, only a secondary goal resulting from the first one, basis of everything.
Oh? Please enlighten me; pardon my theological mistakes.
Unity Prevails. |
| |
|