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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2011.06.10 13:32:00 -
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Here is my "old" card:
295GTX
Here is the card I see evga offering with Duke Nukem package (reasonable price too)
560GTX
Now at first glance my 295 appears to have better stats for the most part (with the exception its dx10 not dx11)
There is a lot that goes into this though, a lot I know I do not understand.
My old card seems to be two cards sandwiched together (individually, inferior to the 560). Together, are they really better???
Just got witcher 2, can't max settings (though I acknowledge there currently might not be a card that can do that comfortably)...
the fan on my 295 is starting to whistle now and again though i can stave it off a few days w/ some rem oil.
Part of me is just itching to get a new card that might be better. But if there isn't going to be a visible performance increase OR possible even worse, of course i'd rather not buy this 560 and hold off for something better.
Help me OOP-kenobi, you're my only hope.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.10 15:14:00 -
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Passmark rating:
GeForce GTX 295- 1711
GeForce GTX 460 SE - 2084
GeForce GTX 460- 2353
GeForce GTX 470- 2966
GeForce GTX 560- 2652
GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 2956
Theoretical raw shader power stats (GFLOPs):
GeForce GTX 295- 1788.480
GeForce GTX 460 SE - 748.8
GeForce GTX 460- 907.2
GeForce GTX 470 - 1088.64
GeForce GTX 560- 1088.6
GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 1263.4
Practical test results : from here to here.
Note however that the review is for the 560 Ti, not the "just 560", which is weaker than the Ti model.
Long story short - the 295 is sometimes better, sometimes worse compared to the Ti, and almost certainly almost always better than the non-Ti.
The only good reasons to get a 560 instead of your old 295 would be :
* power consumption (170W vs 290W) and maybe noise
* if you really, really want DX11 features and not just DX10.0
* if you're thinking of maybe going SLI mode (eventually)
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2011.06.10 18:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Akita T
Practical test results : from here to here.
Differences appear to be nominal. Not worth throwing down cash.
Thank you for your input.
guru3d.com bookmarked.
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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.06.10 21:14:00 -
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I might finally upgrade my 8800 GTS 512 if BF3 nails it. 560 series cards look most attractive at the moment.
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Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.06.11 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Vogue
I might finally upgrade my 8800 GTS 512 if BF3 nails it. 560 series cards look most attractive at the moment.
Can I have your 8800GTS?
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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.06.11 11:47:00 -
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Well I have modified it:-
If and when I do upgrade I will pm you in game.
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Wilhelm Riley
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Posted - 2011.06.11 12:39:00 -
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Slight derail here: Anyone know if CCP is still doing that hardware4time thing?
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Dyner
Minmatar
Midgard Protectorate
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Posted - 2011.06.11 15:41:00 -
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Should get the 570 HD (has the display port) then OC it to the 800/1600/1955 [Core/Shader/Memory].
...so glad I upgraded from my Superclocked 260
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.11 16:37:00 -
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3-way GTX 580 SLI 
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2011.06.12 00:46:00 -
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anyone speculate on when nvidia's next line might come out? or, anybody have the inside track and like to share?
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Reiisha
EVE University
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Posted - 2011.06.12 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
anyone speculate on when nvidia's next line might come out? or, anybody have the inside track and like to share?
It won't be announced before September, don't expect it to be released before 2012. It will also be bad, as per NVidia rules starting at the 4000 series:
4000: good.
5000: bad.
6000: good.
7000: bad.
8000: good.
9000: meh.
200: good.
400: meh.
500: good.
600: ???
I very much doubt they will break this cycle, so i'd stick with the 500's or wait for what the new AMD brings in September.
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Amarr
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.12 03:30:00 -
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Right now they are redoing the chip and seeing what they can squeeze out, they had no new offering at Computex so we can assume the 500 lineup will be the standard into 2012. That being said they will probably look at more cores on their GPU's maybe do something like intel and AMD did when they hit the single core ghz wall. Add more cores on a single die. But thats just speculation.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.12 05:10:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 12/06/2011 05:18:03
@Reiisha
4000: good. - 150nm fab, Feb 2002 -> early 2003
5000: bad. - few 150, most 130nm fabs, Jan 2003 -> early 2004
6000: good. - 130, 110 and 90nm fabs, April 2004 -> late 2005
7000: bad. - 110 and 90nm fabs, June 2005 -> late 2007
8000: good. - "Tesla" 90, 80 and 65nm fabs, Nov 2006 -> early 2008
9000: meh. - 65 and 55 nm fabs, Feb 2008 -> late 2008
100 : ??? - 55nm fab all in March 2009
200: good. - 65, 55 and 40nm fabs, June 2008 -> late 2009
300 : ??? - 40nm fab, mostly OEM cards, slightly improved 200s, Nov 2009 -> early 2010
400: meh. - 40nm fab "Fermi" March 2010 -> early 2011
500: good. - 40nm fab "Fermi+" Nov 2010 -> May 2011 ?
600: ??? - 28nm fab "Kepler", projected in late autumn or early winter 2011
700: ??? - most likely a "Kepler+" version (still 28nm fab), mid-2012 to late 2012
800: ??? - 22nm fab "Maxwell", probably by mid-2013
"Sauce"...
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Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr
Vengeance Industrial Militia
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Posted - 2011.06.12 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Vogue
Well I have modified it:-
If and when I do upgrade I will pm you in game.
What the hell did you do to tht thing?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.12 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 12/06/2011 21:56:01
Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari
What the hell did you do to that thing?
Either two additional fans glued on, and the one on the right fell off, OR just one extra that was originally glued on the right moved to the left.
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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.06.12 22:44:00 -
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The fan was originally on the right. I removed it then put it on the left. I have since added an additional fan on the right. Though the second fan has had little effect on heat dissipation.
My latest DIY mod creation is a large layered wooden enclosure for a SCSI hard disk I am using with an old HP workstation PC. As SCSI hard drives are intended for use in servers in separate rooms it is of no consequence if they make a lot of noise - and my one does. The enclosure is made out of cuts of spare wood and chipboard from the garage. It looks abysmal but the noise from the SCSI hard disk has been greatly suppressed.
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Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr
Vengeance Industrial Militia
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Posted - 2011.06.14 15:14:00 -
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Now can you modify a GTX 590 to make it more effecient?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.14 16:52:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 14/06/2011 16:53:11
Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari
Now can you modify a GTX 590 to make it more effecient?
Define "efficient".
Get more FPS regardless of heat ?
Use less power for a certain target FPS ?
Improve the cooling system ?
What exactly ?
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Posted - 2011.06.15 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
400: meh. - 40nm fab "Fermi" March 2010 -> early 2011
The early versions of the 400 where pretty bad, this was mostly down to the manufacturing process. Recent versions are much better, meaning less heat and power requirement issues.
I have the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 480 SUPER OC, it cost me ú210 and gives me 580 speeds.
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Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.15 11:19:00 -
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I was merely copypasting and filling into Reiisha's very short list of "judgments", then kept adding more and more info without removing the initial text.
I have a GTX 460 myself and I'm rather happy with it.
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