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Devil's Call
Caldari Malicious Destruction War Against the Manifest
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:08:00 -
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I was wondering what's the idea behind the 'physics' of your ship hangar which you can look at from your captains quarters in incarna.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqwQecPcqpM
Does the ship float in a vacuum, or is it being kept a float with magnets...? I don't even know how magnets work?!
But really, what's the idea behind this:-)?
Sincerely wondering. <3
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KHAN SUNE
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:11:00 -
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Anti-grav obviously

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Delkana Fox
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:15:00 -
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It's safe to assume that gravity on the station is artificial. I ask you why waste money running gravity in a hanger when you can charge pilots exorbitant prices to turn off the gravity service that was never on in the first place? |

Suen Jynx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:16:00 -
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shouldn't you be worrying why your incarnation doesn't float through the hangar by herself?
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Devil's Call
Caldari Malicious Destruction War Against the Manifest
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:18:00 -
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Could you elaborate? I'm not really that aware of sience fiction stuff. But anti-gravity sounds like bull**** to me=p? I can't imagine the force being needed to cancel a Nightmares weight out, let alone a freakin' Orca or freighter.
Wtb lessons in siencefiction physics haha.
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Devil's Call
Caldari Malicious Destruction War Against the Manifest
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Suen Jynx shouldn't you be worrying why your incarnation doesn't float through the hangar by herself?
That's what all the comotion is about, obviously, or why she doesn't sufficate in there, that's why I want to know what the idea behind this stuff is.
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Tanaka Kharn
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:25:00 -
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No one really gets gravity someone prove me wrong.
SO i think its fair for fiction to do what ever the hell it likes with it.
Tldr: Its magic.
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Devil's Call
Caldari Malicious Destruction War Against the Manifest
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:27:00 -
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Coman, it's simple, appels fall from tree's, newton is my hero!
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Tanaka Kharn
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:29:00 -
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Yea and still why do they fall?
Cos mass is attracted to mass? er wtf why ?
MAGIC
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Devil's Call
Caldari Malicious Destruction War Against the Manifest
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Tanaka Kharn Yea and still why do they fall?
Cos mass is attracted to mass? er wtf why ?
MAGIC
Magnets, how do they work?! You can't explain that.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:31:00 -
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Since the stations don't spin, anything in them will float. Like your ship. You should better be asking what keeps *you* from floating as well. 
Magnetic soles perhaps? :)
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Tanaka Kharn
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Devil's Call
Originally by: Tanaka Kharn Yea and still why do they fall?
Cos mass is attracted to mass? er wtf why ?
MAGIC
Magnets, how do they work?! You can't explain that.
Also Magic
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Devil's Call
Caldari Malicious Destruction War Against the Manifest
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Serpents smile
Since the stations don't spin, anything in them will float. Like your ship. You should better be asking what keeps *you* from floating as well. 
Magnetic soles perhaps? :)
Anti-gravity plating! Damn I'm starting to become good at this.
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Isha Steel
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Devil's Call Edited by: Devil''s Call on 10/06/2011 14:29:41 Edited by: Devil''s Call on 10/06/2011 14:28:29 Coman, it's simple, appels fall from tree's, newton is my hero! Under general relativity, gravity is the result of following a spatial geometry (change in the normal shape of space) caused by local mass-energy. This theory holds that it is the altered shape of space, deformed by massive objects, that causes 'gravity', which is actually a property of deformed space rather than being a true force. Although the equations cannot produce a "negative geometry" normally, it is possible to do so using a "negative mass". The same equations do not, of themselves, rule out the existence of negative mass.
Negative mass
.....as far as we know.
Just to say the Einsteins theories are by no means the be all and end all, science is constantly developing with different views on past theories, just because that the "best fit" we have now doesn't me it works for every situation.
You can't say "there's no such thing as anti-gravity" just because you haven't come across it, or your mathematical formulas say it can't happen.
Well i suppose you could say that, but you'd be wrong try proving that anti-gravity exists rather than dismissing it out of hand ;)
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Zixie Draco
The Queue
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Devil's Call
Does the ship float in a vacuum, or is it being kept a float with magnets...? I don't even know how magnets work?!
Sincerely wondering. <3
please tell me we didn't just get trolled by an ICP fan
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Mithrasith
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Posted - 2011.06.10 15:03:00 -
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Edited by: Mithrasith on 10/06/2011 15:03:56
Originally by: Tanaka Kharn Edited by: Tanaka Kharn on 10/06/2011 14:28:02 No one really gets gravity someone prove me wrong.
This tbh. Gravity is one of the big mysteries in the Universe.
There are several theories (ranging from Gravitons move between dimensions, which is why they are such a relatively "weak" force etc) but they also fall apart at the quantum level.
There is a significant apparent discrepancy between the Macro (covered by the theory of relativity and special theory of relativity) and the Micro (quantum mechanics). The theory of relativity falls apart in spectacular fashion at the Quantum level.
Theoretically speaking, it does make sense at some level to posit that there are gravitons and anti-gravitons....however one moves into the ub3r conjecture realm with only a quark to stand on to make that claim.
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stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.10 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: stoicfaux on 10/06/2011 15:21:45
Originally by: Devil's Call
Originally by: Serpents smile
Since the stations don't spin, anything in them will float. Like your ship. You should better be asking what keeps *you* from floating as well. 
Magnetic soles perhaps? :)
Anti-gravity plating! Damn I'm starting to become good at this.
/facepalm. The station is already in zero-gravity, adding anti-gravity isn't going to help.
The correct answer is "gravity plating," specifically one-sided gravity plating.
edit: Someone else can explain why only one side of one-sided gravity plating creates gravity and why that gravity is completely out of proportion to its mass.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.10 15:21:00 -
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Space Magic
The Real Space Initiative - V7
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voiddragon
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Posted - 2011.06.10 15:28:00 -
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Einstein never accepted quantam mechanics and strived for 30 years to find a uniform field theory before dying. It makes you wonder if he just couldn't accept it or if he was genuinely onto something.
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JMERCENARY
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Posted - 2011.06.10 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Devil's Call I was wondering what's the idea behind the 'physics' of your ship hangar which you can look at from your captains quarters in incarna.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqwQecPcqpM
Does the ship float in a vacuum, or is it being kept a float with magnets...? I don't even know how magnets work?!
But really, what's the idea behind this:-)?
Sincerely wondering. <3
the gravimetric forcefield simulates a bosonian state of flux density apparatus that cancels the Einstein-Rosen Bridge of arcing positrons through the visible ultraviolet matrix and stimulates enough mass of anti protons to create a gravitic lens effect. 
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Xervish Krin
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Posted - 2011.06.10 15:47:00 -
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Artificial gravity decking along the bridge and in the quarters so you don't float off.
No artificial gravity in the hangar, maybe some magnetic field to clamp the ship in place.
Problem solved.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.06.10 15:49:00 -
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Can someone tell me what this has to do with captains quarters?
Eve hanger has always had magically floating ships in a station which is obviously inhabited by humans. But why is this thread about CQ?
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stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.10 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Xervish Krin Artificial gravity decking along the bridge and in the quarters so you don't float off.
No artificial gravity in the hangar, maybe some magnetic field to clamp the ship in place.
Magnetic fields powerful enough to restrain ships are problematic.
Use variable gravity plating in the hanger walls, floor and ceiling to pull the ship (make it fall) into its desired location.
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.10 15:58:00 -
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Superconducting magnet anchors. Read The Burning LifeÖ ____________
Originally by: CCP Guard Nobody gets to ruin EVE but us!
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Devil's Call
Caldari Malicious Destruction War Against the Manifest
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Posted - 2011.06.10 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: stoicfaux
Originally by: Xervish Krin Artificial gravity decking along the bridge and in the quarters so you don't float off.
No artificial gravity in the hangar, maybe some magnetic field to clamp the ship in place.
Magnetic fields powerful enough to restrain ships are problematic.
Use variable gravity plating in the hanger walls, floor and ceiling to pull the ship (make it fall) into its desired location.
So what if a lighter ship fly's by? |

KHAN SUNE
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Posted - 2011.06.10 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Devil's Call
Originally by: stoicfaux
Originally by: Xervish Krin Artificial gravity decking along the bridge and in the quarters so you don't float off.
No artificial gravity in the hangar, maybe some magnetic field to clamp the ship in place.
Magnetic fields powerful enough to restrain ships are problematic.
Use variable gravity plating in the hanger walls, floor and ceiling to pull the ship (make it fall) into its desired location.
So what if a lighter ship fly's by?
FFS go get laid.... worked for me.
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Zixie Draco
The Queue
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Posted - 2011.06.10 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Devil's Call
Magnets, how do they work?! You can't explain that.
Why are pants different than shirts?
Are children small or just far away?
Why do some mountains look like presidents?
How does your luggage always know where to find you?

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Farrisen
Caldari Nth Dimension
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Posted - 2011.06.10 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Devil's Call
Magnets, how do they work?! You can't explain that.
Indeed
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Metal Icarus
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.10 18:21:00 -
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Your a clone in space that has died hundred of times, and you guys are complaining about the infastructure in a space station that uses coils with antimatter flowing at high speed to create artificial gravity under you feet?
pick ur battles ppl
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Jake Sato
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Posted - 2011.06.10 19:08:00 -
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This is simple to explain.
We can assume that the ships are actually free floating and the station has some small magnets, graviton plates, or fields that keep it floating in place.
There is obviously either a glass window or force field keeping oxygen inside of the captain's quarters. There could be a force field at the dock entrance, meaning the entire inside of the station has an atmosphere and not just the quarters.
The floor plates have graviton particles, which is an elementary particle that generates gravitational force when electricity is applied to them. The gravity's force can then be easily adjusted by changing the amount of electricity flowing through the graviton plates.
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