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Headerman
Minmatar Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.06.10 23:36:00 -
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Hi all,
As you know, the Hel looks awesome. Also, you may know it is one of the least flown ships in the game. I for one believe it is not just the unusual bonus given to the Hel that makes it unviable, but also the implants available to be used in it.
First and most obvious one? Crystal set. This doesn't work on capitals at all, so useless on the Hel. As there is no slave set equivelent for shields, what does that leave? Snake set? lol. LG Nomad set? It's not the nano wars again. The only implants useful for the Hel from slots one to 5 is the Jackal set to help prevent Jamming.
What about slot 6? Besides the faction Omega implant, there is one very important implant for the Hel: The cap recharge bonus Squire CR2-10.
Slot 7? About the only useful implant here is the Zainu Gnome KVA500-3000 series for up to 6% extra shields
Slot 8? The CC10 provides up to 6% extra cap amount. Or, there is the Gnome KXA 3000, providing 6% less cap requirement for shield emission mods.
Slot 9? Nothing much useful there, unless you want a better shield recharge by up to 6%.
Slot 10? Nothing relevent.
All in all, some not very useful implants. And there are more than some designed for the same slot
What would be great? A cap recharge set to use in conjunction with the Hels shield RR bonus.
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Murtific
Caldari Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.10 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Headerman The only implants useful for the Hel from slots one to 5 is the Jackal set to help prevent Jamming.
I know for sure you don't have a clue what you're talking about m8..... 
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Parl Kilkington
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Posted - 2011.06.10 23:55:00 -
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Edited by: Parl Kilkington on 10/06/2011 23:55:39
Originally by: Murtific
Originally by: Headerman The only implants useful for the Hel from slots one to 5 is the Jackal set to help prevent Jamming.
I know for sure you don't have a clue what you're talking about m8..... 
(not empty quoting)
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Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos Word of Chaos Undivided
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Posted - 2011.06.11 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Parl Kilkington Edited by: Parl Kilkington on 10/06/2011 23:55:39
Originally by: Murtific
Originally by: Headerman The only implants useful for the Hel from slots one to 5 is the Jackal set to help prevent Jamming.
I know for sure you don't have a clue what you're talking about m8..... 
(not empty quoting)
ditto.
~No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously.~
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.06.11 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Parl Kilkington Edited by: Parl Kilkington on 10/06/2011 23:55:39
Originally by: Murtific
Originally by: Headerman The only implants useful for the Hel from slots one to 5 is the Jackal set to help prevent Jamming.
I know for sure you don't have a clue what you're talking about m8..... 
(not empty quoting)
------------------------------- When I mitigate risks in business, they call me financially sound. When I mitigate risk in PVP, they call me a coward.
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Headerman
Minmatar Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.06.11 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Murtific
Originally by: Headerman The only implants useful for the Hel from slots one to 5 is the Jackal set to help prevent Jamming.
I know for sure you don't have a clue what you're talking about m8..... 
... sarcasm...
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Gandar Kimokanen
NibbleTek Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.11 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Headerman
Originally by: Murtific
Originally by: Headerman The only implants useful for the Hel from slots one to 5 is the Jackal set to help prevent Jamming.
I know for sure you don't have a clue what you're talking about m8..... 
... sarcasm...
Backpedaling much are we?
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Headerman
Minmatar Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.06.11 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Gandar Kimokanen
Originally by: Headerman
Originally by: Murtific
Originally by: Headerman The only implants useful for the Hel from slots one to 5 is the Jackal set to help prevent Jamming.
I know for sure you don't have a clue what you're talking about m8..... 
... sarcasm...
Backpedaling much are we?
Sorry, thought it was obvious with the Immune to all forms of Electronic Warfare.
On a slightly more serious note, can you think of or know of implants that help the Hel?
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Aamrr
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Posted - 2011.06.11 00:33:00 -
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Your best bets are either Nomads, overheated-MWD drive-by station ganks or Edge implants, to get some more juice out of boosters.
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.06.11 01:24:00 -
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Edited by: Patient 2428190 on 11/06/2011 01:26:41 Slaves
Dual tank it like a boss and hope it never dies. 
Edit: +5s to train for a real super ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
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Bean Giant
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Posted - 2011.06.11 08:11:00 -
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Snake set and just outrun the focused points. Seriously though. Nano Hel.
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Adacia Calla
Minmatar Firebird Squadron Terra-Incognita
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Posted - 2011.06.11 09:00:00 -
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Edited by: Adacia Calla on 11/06/2011 09:00:36
Originally by: Bean Giant Snake set and just outrun the focused points. Seriously though. Nano Hel.
Nano Ragnarok is where it's at. Get with the times:
[Ragnarok, Serious Stuff] Domination Nanofiber Structure Domination Nanofiber Structure Domination Nanofiber Structure Domination Nanofiber Structure Damage Control II Tobias' Modified Gyrostabilizer
Cormack's Modified 100MN MicroWarpdrive Tobias' Modified Warp Disruptor Tobias' Modified Warp Scrambler Tobias' Modified Stasis Webifier Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Estamel's Modified Heat Dissipation Field Estamel's Modified Photon Scattering Field
6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, Arch Angel EMP XL Gjallarhorn Jump Portal Generator I
Large Projectile Burst Aerator II Large Core Defence Field Extender I Large Core Defence Field Extender I
With HG Snakes, AY-2.5, GY-2.5 and Zor's Hyperlink and a Command Loki, this badboy does:
Max Velocity: 254m/s (302m/s Overheated) Align time: 21.3 seconds DPS: 9218 / 10601 Overheated (This is without Gjallarhorn active) EHP: Who cares, you're a nanoboat
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Ms Sofi
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.11 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Adacia Calla Edited by: Adacia Calla on 11/06/2011 09:00:36
Originally by: Bean Giant Snake set and just outrun the focused points. Seriously though. Nano Hel.
Nano Ragnarok is where it's at. Get with the times:
[Ragnarok, Serious Stuff] Domination Nanofiber Structure Domination Nanofiber Structure Domination Nanofiber Structure Domination Nanofiber Structure Damage Control II Tobias' Modified Gyrostabilizer
Cormack's Modified 100MN MicroWarpdrive Tobias' Modified Warp Disruptor Tobias' Modified Warp Scrambler Tobias' Modified Stasis Webifier Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Estamel's Modified Heat Dissipation Field Estamel's Modified Photon Scattering Field
6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, Arch Angel EMP XL Gjallarhorn Jump Portal Generator I
Large Projectile Burst Aerator II Large Core Defence Field Extender I Large Core Defence Field Extender I
With HG Snakes, AY-2.5, GY-2.5 and Zor's Hyperlink and a Command Loki, this badboy does:
Max Velocity: 254m/s (302m/s Overheated) Align time: 21.3 seconds DPS: 9218 / 10601 Overheated (This is without Gjallarhorn active) EHP: Who cares, you're a nanoboat
36 guns seems a bit excessive
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Naomi Knight
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.11 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Sofi
36 guns seems a bit excessive
not for minmatar they are all about guns
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Unsuspicous guy
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Posted - 2011.06.11 14:07:00 -
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EFT-WARRIORING WITHOUT NUMBERS TO PROVE ME RIGHT:
30 Wyverns + 40 Hels have enough spidertank to outtank the dps of 100 Nyxes. |

Mastah Mazoku
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Posted - 2011.06.11 19:53:00 -
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Edited by: Mastah Mazoku on 11/06/2011 19:53:40
Originally by: Unsuspicous guy EFT-WARRIORING WITHOUT NUMBERS TO PROVE ME RIGHT:
30 Wyverns + 40 Hels have enough spidertank to outtank the dps of 100 Nyxes.
What about Lag dude ? 
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Cyn0 A17
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Posted - 2011.06.11 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Mastah Mazoku Edited by: Mastah Mazoku on 11/06/2011 19:53:40
Originally by: Unsuspicous guy EFT-WARRIORING WITHOUT NUMBERS TO PROVE ME RIGHT:
30 Wyverns + 40 Hels have enough spidertank to outtank the dps of 100 Nyxes.
What about Lag dude ? 
He said he was eft warrioring. That means 0 lag sitting at zero on a target (or a set range) no one moving and everyone max skills. Just to name a few traits in the land of eft
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.06.11 21:12:00 -
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Use a cheap clone to save money and treat the Hel as a suicide boat. Tech I fittings and insurance...
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Wait...
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Nope, perfect.
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Unsuspicous guy
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Posted - 2011.06.12 22:45:00 -
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No, Really. Just change it's 5% Rep bonus to a 3% Command Bonus on all Warfare Link Modules.
Capital Commandship with worst EHP of all Supercaps. |

Atius Tirawa
Minmatar Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.12 23:35:00 -
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Aside fom not knowing anything about moms. . . th problem is not only implants, but the role a mom is supposed to play - the current hel needs either a boost to its logistics (as does the niddy) which could make it imba (7.5% rep amount & 5% reduction to cap use per level) or change its bonus all-together (something to do with FB tracking) - which would be a shame, but very possible.
Thats before we get to slot layout and so on. . . and implants come at the tail end of that.
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Gabba Tron
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Posted - 2011.06.13 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Val'Dore
Originally by: Parl Kilkington Edited by: Parl Kilkington on 10/06/2011 23:55:39
Originally by: Murtific
Originally by: Headerman The only implants useful for the Hel from slots one to 5 is the Jackal set to help prevent Jamming.
I know for sure you don't have a clue what you're talking about m8..... 
Hory **** (not empty quoting)
ditto.
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