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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.06.11 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 11/06/2011 19:47:53
Ok, seriously.Tell us what your thinking for prices! The transparency is like a foggy window. You're telling us every single last details but prices. I mean if there was a better time for you to tell people what's going on, I can't think of one. It's a 3 part interview, and you're not letting us know one of the biggest parts of the design. Do items cost 10 cents each as it seems they will? Or are we looking at 4-5$ items?
Stop being so secretive, tell us the cost of these items!
also why not sell Blueprints if you want the players to build it? sell tattoo blueprints! clothing blueprints! Make up your mind! : (
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.06.11 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 11/06/2011 20:01:56 boooo you let him get away : (
we honestly have no idea with like a week left.
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Lucius Voltar
Gallente The ArchAngel Vanguard
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Posted - 2011.06.11 20:04:00 -
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They're not going to sell blueprints because that would just draw off the income. Presumably the prices are currently on the Sing Server, and of course will probably change as its finalized. Like with all aspects of eve... Have Patience ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Time will tell, sooner or later, time will tell.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.06.11 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Lucius Voltar They're not going to sell blueprints because that would just draw off the income. Presumably the prices are currently on the Sing Server, and of course will probably change as its finalized. Like with all aspects of eve... Have Patience
the prices on Sisi are currently half a cent for a vanity item.
whic would be awesome but somehow I don't buy it without confirmation.
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Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.11 20:49:00 -
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CCP Zinfandel is a gentleman and a scholar
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Lucius Voltar
Gallente The ArchAngel Vanguard
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Posted - 2011.06.11 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Lucius Voltar They're not going to sell blueprints because that would just draw off the income. Presumably the prices are currently on the Sing Server, and of course will probably change as its finalized. Like with all aspects of eve... Have Patience
the prices on Sisi are currently half a cent for a vanity item.
whic would be awesome but somehow I don't buy it without confirmation.
I was only presuming that they might be on there, but as I mentioned prices are more than likely in the final tweeking stages, and may change at a later date anyway to control the prices of PLEX as CCP doesn't want them to go sky high (like they are atm) ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Time will tell, sooner or later, time will tell.
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CCP Zinfandel
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Posted - 2011.06.12 15:17:00 -
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Thanks for watching yesterday. This is my first chance to pop on and answer your questions.
We are still finalizing our pricing for the items. So in order to facilitate testing, we just put everything up for 1 Aurum or 2 Aurum. If you see a price suddenly change from 1 to 2 or 3, it's because I'm making changes in real time to test "offers" and I'm changing the price to be sure it's a new offer that is being displayed. But those prices are not going to resemble the real prices.
But the exchange rate is real. 1 PLEX converts into 3500 Aurum and that's not changing. And it's not variable. PLEX are just too big so we are breaking them down fairly small to give us lots of flexibility.
In this first version of the store, we don't yet have support for BPCs. Specifically, we can't tell the BPC how many runs it has on it. So we can't use that as a way to sell the Ishukone Watch Scorpion battleship. Right now our plan is to temporarily sell whole ships until this fall when we will switch to requiring a normal Scorpion as part of the price. BPCs would have worked too, if we could support that. The CSM felt that a short period of time selling the whole ship would not meaningfully hurt the EVE economy or Scorpion ship builders.
Regarding other blueprints like tattoos and clothing? We are still working on ideas like this. Those take design work but we hope to offer things in that general direction one day. No promises other than we won't get that far this year. We have a big queue of stuff for our designers to work on.
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Salpun
Gallente Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.06.12 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Salpun on 12/06/2011 15:52:13
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel Thanks for watching yesterday. This is my first chance to pop on and answer your questions.
We are still finalizing our pricing for the items. So in order to facilitate testing, we just put everything up for 1 Aurum or 2 Aurum. If you see a price suddenly change from 1 to 2 or 3, it's because I'm making changes in real time to test "offers" and I'm changing the price to be sure it's a new offer that is being displayed. But those prices are not going to resemble the real prices.
But the exchange rate is real. 1 PLEX converts into 3500 Aurum and that's not changing. And it's not variable. PLEX are just too big so we are breaking them down fairly small to give us lots of flexibility.
In this first version of the store, we don't yet have support for BPCs. Specifically, we can't tell the BPC how many runs it has on it. So we can't use that as a way to sell the Ishukone Watch Scorpion battleship. Right now our plan is to temporarily sell whole ships until this fall when we will switch to requiring a normal Scorpion as part of the price. BPCs would have worked too, if we could support that. The CSM felt that a short period of time selling the whole ship would not meaningfully hurt the EVE economy or Scorpion ship builders.
Regarding other blueprints like tattoos and clothing? We are still working on ideas like this. Those take design work but we hope to offer things in that general direction one day. No promises other than we won't get that far this year. We have a big queue of stuff for our designers to work on.
Ishukone Watch Scorpion battleship????
Are you talking about the paint job on the ship? Thanks for the info. You might want to sticky the info somewhere.
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.06.12 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Salpun Edited by: Salpun on 12/06/2011 15:52:13
Ishukone Watch Scorpion battleship????
Are you talking about the paint job on the ship? Thanks for the info. You might want to sticky the info somewhere.
It's essentially a standard Scorpion, but with a lovely dark Ishukone Watch paintjob.
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CCP Zinfandel
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Posted - 2011.06.12 16:25:00 -
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To clarify, the Ishukone Watch Scorpion and the standard Scorpion have exactly the same functionality. Exactly. The only differences are:
- appearance
name descriptive text item ID number market ID number
By having a different market ID, it shows up in the marketplace in a different list than the Scorpion.
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Dalmont Delantee
Gallente Shiloh Technologies
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Posted - 2011.06.12 17:00:00 -
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CCP Zin, Do you have to have the ship first before the paint job.
Please say yes or there will massive fleets of the plant job if people can buy it with money :P Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons |
Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.06.12 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Dalmont Delantee CCP Zin, Do you have to have the ship first before the paint job.
Please say yes or there will massive fleets of the plant job if people can buy it with money :P
That was mentioned yesterday, you'd trade in the base-ship for the modified version, plus the Aurum cost of the modified paintjob.
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Andrew Riviera
Caldari The First Church of the Azure Carrot
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Posted - 2011.06.12 17:45:00 -
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Do the words 'vague ballpark' not work around here? Can you at least give us a vague context for the sort of range we're looking at?
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Jack Dant
Minmatar Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.06.12 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel Right now our plan is to temporarily sell whole ships until this fall when we will switch to requiring a normal Scorpion as part of the price.
So you will be magically spawning ships in exchange for real money? How's that going to affect the economy?
Is it possible to reprocess these ships? So you can get minerals nobody mined?
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Pure Tabasco
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Posted - 2011.06.12 21:17:00 -
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You know, AUR, ISK, PLEX.... All sounds like Wall Street or Forex.
In context: How much of your Real Life worth a in world full of internet spaceships...
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Salpun
Gallente Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.06.12 21:18:00 -
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My guess is the origanal ship gets replaced in your hanger by the new one. Dev sayed all stats that would include reproccesing ammounts will remain the same.
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Morphisat
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2011.06.12 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Dant
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel Right now our plan is to temporarily sell whole ships until this fall when we will switch to requiring a normal Scorpion as part of the price.
So you will be magically spawning ships in exchange for real money? How's that going to affect the economy?
Is it possible to reprocess these ships? So you can get minerals nobody mined?
And so it begins ...
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Terianna Eri
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.06.13 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel But those prices are not going to resemble the real prices.
But the exchange rate is real. 1 PLEX converts into 3500 Aurum and that's not changing.
This is a content-free answer. Are we going to be looking at pants costing 7000 AUR or more in the vein of 50-100? ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.06.13 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel Thanks for watching yesterday. This is my first chance to pop on and answer your questions.
We are still finalizing our pricing for the items. So in order to facilitate testing, we just put everything up for 1 Aurum or 2 Aurum. If you see a price suddenly change from 1 to 2 or 3, it's because I'm making changes in real time to test "offers" and I'm changing the price to be sure it's a new offer that is being displayed. But those prices are not going to resemble the real prices.
But the exchange rate is real. 1 PLEX converts into 3500 Aurum and that's not changing. And it's not variable. PLEX are just too big so we are breaking them down fairly small to give us lots of flexibility.
In this first version of the store, we don't yet have support for BPCs. Specifically, we can't tell the BPC how many runs it has on it. So we can't use that as a way to sell the Ishukone Watch Scorpion battleship. Right now our plan is to temporarily sell whole ships until this fall when we will switch to requiring a normal Scorpion as part of the price. BPCs would have worked too, if we could support that. The CSM felt that a short period of time selling the whole ship would not meaningfully hurt the EVE economy or Scorpion ship builders.
Regarding other blueprints like tattoos and clothing? We are still working on ideas like this. Those take design work but we hope to offer things in that general direction one day. No promises other than we won't get that far this year. We have a big queue of stuff for our designers to work on.
Thanks a lot for taking your time to reply, all lot of things are much clearer now : )
and as much as selling the ship for pure aurum is kinda... breaking a few rules... I gues it's ok if you PROMISE to change it needing a ship, and it's cost in aurum is in line isk value for a battleship+paint job.
Also while I understand the prices will change, and you've stated they aren't final. *it's good to know plex to aurum conversion is set in stone* Can't you give an idea on the prices? As in clothing will be in the single, double or triple digits? i don't need to know more than that. I really think keeping it double or single digits will increases the possiblity of a 2ndary market for sure but I jsut want a little hint at the price range plan.
Thanks again o/ we'll see in 9 days I guess. lol
also instead of Bpcs, maybe see if it's possible to make it a new form of aurum bought skill books. Different skill books give you knownledge of different tattoo designs. Might not be feasible but I think it would be neat. Since knowing how to draw isn't a blueprint type deal in my mind.
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.06.13 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel To clarify, the Ishukone Watch Scorpion and the standard Scorpion have exactly the same functionality. Exactly. By having a different market ID, it shows up in the marketplace in a different list than the Scorpion.
In EVE client there are many variations of faction ships non-flyable by player at the moment (like Blood Rider Maller or Roden Shipyards Megathron and many other npc ships). Also there is still old Scorpion model present and it looks like it's still updating. Is there any possibility that we get someday these awesome ships in the shop?
Also I wonder if we can request somehow some items for the shop in the future. I mean some special outfit that don't break game immersion. Russian naval undershirts will sell good amongst DRF because it's cool and every man have wore this at least for one year in his life
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.06.13 10:19:00 -
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Old model scorpion for aurum would be epic win. : D
I mean i think the new one is better, but it would be add a lot to the game since it's just a drastic change. like the maller basicly looks the same, so havig the old one wouldn't be a big deal. but classic scorpion? hell yes!
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Evelgrivion
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.06.13 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel In this first version of the store, we don't yet have support for BPCs. Specifically, we can't tell the BPC how many runs it has on it. So we can't use that as a way to sell the Ishukone Watch Scorpion battleship. Right now our plan is to temporarily sell whole ships until this fall when we will switch to requiring a normal Scorpion as part of the price. BPCs would have worked too, if we could support that. The CSM felt that a short period of time selling the whole ship would not meaningfully hurt the EVE economy or Scorpion ship builders.
Unacceptable. Even for a ship as uncommon as the Scorpion, the principles of the EVE Online sandbox should not be undermined in such a way. This feature should not launch until a Scorpion, or other T1 ship, is consumed in exchange for the re-skinned variant.
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Vera Coen
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Posted - 2011.06.13 23:04:00 -
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Instead of selling whole ships for Aurum, make a BPO that requires Aurum + a Scorpion battleship. The BPO can sell for 1 ISK if you like and if the Aurum count is low enough then the waste factor won't matter. It won't matter if there are 15,000 of these BPOs owned by players because it will require Aurum for each conversion. Or you can sell the BPO for Aurum and require Aurum as part of the mats.
That would seem to be a cleaner solution and prevent stepping onto a slippery slope.
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Vile'er
Ungrateful Vile
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Posted - 2011.06.14 00:18:00 -
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so... i can just buy scorpions in my outpost in deep 0.0 reprocess them (or are they magically immune to this) and then build my super caps with out ever having to mine again? and if we cant reprocess this....
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cerbus
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.06.14 04:05:00 -
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yeah yeah yeah
Lol mother, I told you already but you didn't believe me :P Also confirming CCP Zinfandel has great hands <3 T'amber
cerbus
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Mithfindel
Zenko Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.06.14 06:41:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel In this first version of the store, we don't yet have support for BPCs. Specifically, we can't tell the BPC how many runs it has on it. So we can't use that as a way to sell the Ishukone Watch Scorpion battleship. Right now our plan is to temporarily sell whole ships until this fall when we will switch to requiring a normal Scorpion as part of the price. BPCs would have worked too, if we could support that. The CSM felt that a short period of time selling the whole ship would not meaningfully hurt the EVE economy or Scorpion ship builders.
"Our code is broken, but we don't care."
By the way, I'd like an Ishukone Leviathan. Could you sell that in the item mall, too? Come on, it doesn't do any harm if you do it only for a short time.
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Nullity
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.14 07:24:00 -
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I'm glad that CCP is rushing out a fix to EVE's most pressing issue: The lack of instantly spawned, pretty Scorpions.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.06.14 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: cerbus yeah yeah yeah
Lol mother, I told you already but you didn't believe me :P Also confirming CCP Zinfandel has great hands <3 T'amber
cerbus
Whatever you ignored every link I posted. The second big benefit of the triple-shaders is that we can more easily create factional variants of assets. Now the problem with the NGS system is that it doesn't play as well as we would like with the triple-shaders with regards to number of packed texture files. With the addition of the sub-mask, we have run out of channels to pack it into (as current double and single shaders only use 2 packed textures - a Diffuse, and a NGS texture), thus a new _P (paint) texture map was created to store the extra data. To make factional variants of assets we would like to change the "paint-job" in some instances, and not just change the colors in the shader settings(Which often leads to a "washed"-look that the art director isn't very fond of. The way the NGS textures are packed would mean we would have to generate a new NGS and P texture of every factional variant. If we repack textures in the PGS way, we would only need to generate a new P texture for every factional variant, thus reducing client size, as we'll be reducing the number of textures needed.
derp cerbus derp
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Adrian Idaho
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Posted - 2011.06.14 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel In this first version of the store, we don't yet have support for BPCs. Specifically, we can't tell the BPC how many runs it has on it. So we can't use that as a way to sell the Ishukone Watch Scorpion battleship. Right now our plan is to temporarily sell whole ships until this fall when we will switch to requiring a normal Scorpion as part of the price. BPCs would have worked too, if we could support that. The CSM felt that a short period of time selling the whole ship would not meaningfully hurt the EVE economy or Scorpion ship builders.
I am speechless. Once again you are releasing half-finished content; CCP hasn't changed a bit. And judging by your track record, it'll be 1-2 years before you fix this problem. *bitter* This is so disappointing.
Furthermore, why can't you simply exchange a standard Scorpion for an Ishukone one? Isn't that basically what the LP store does?! How ****ed up does your code have to be that you can't implement this in an hour or two?
"Specifically, we can't tell the BPC how many runs it has on it." How is it even possible that you can't do that? How does copying a BPO work? Or invention?
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Dodgy Past
Amarr Zor Industries Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.14 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel In this first version of the store, we don't yet have support for BPCs. Specifically, we can't tell the BPC how many runs it has on it. So we can't use that as a way to sell the Ishukone Watch Scorpion battleship. Right now our plan is to temporarily sell whole ships until this fall when we will switch to requiring a normal Scorpion as part of the price. BPCs would have worked too, if we could support that. The CSM felt that a short period of time selling the whole ship would not meaningfully hurt the EVE economy or Scorpion ship builders.
So: a) lol incompetent CSM, anything that breaks the sand box is unacceptable.
b) This is shockingly bad when all you need to do is follow the mechanics of the LP store and either do AURUM + Scorpion = special paint job scorpion, or AURUM = special paint job Scorpion BPC.
But nope, you've chosen to cut corners and immediately demonstrate how incompetence, lazyness and greed > maintaining the Eve economy. Got to hand it to you, none of this thin end of the wedge stuff, just jump straight in and break the game with no subtlety.
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Rixiu
The Inuits
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Posted - 2011.06.14 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel Thanks for watching yesterday. This is my first chance to pop on and answer your questions.
We are still finalizing our pricing for the items. So in order to facilitate testing, we just put everything up for 1 Aurum or 2 Aurum. If you see a price suddenly change from 1 to 2 or 3, it's because I'm making changes in real time to test "offers" and I'm changing the price to be sure it's a new offer that is being displayed. But those prices are not going to resemble the real prices.
But the exchange rate is real. 1 PLEX converts into 3500 Aurum and that's not changing. And it's not variable. PLEX are just too big so we are breaking them down fairly small to give us lots of flexibility.
In this first version of the store, we don't yet have support for BPCs. Specifically, we can't tell the BPC how many runs it has on it. So we can't use that as a way to sell the Ishukone Watch Scorpion battleship. Right now our plan is to temporarily sell whole ships until this fall when we will switch to requiring a normal Scorpion as part of the price. BPCs would have worked too, if we could support that. The CSM felt that a short period of time selling the whole ship would not meaningfully hurt the EVE economy or Scorpion ship builders.
Regarding other blueprints like tattoos and clothing? We are still working on ideas like this. Those take design work but we hope to offer things in that general direction one day. No promises other than we won't get that far this year. We have a big queue of stuff for our designers to work on.
Wait, did you just say we can buy ships for real money? Granted they have the exact same stats but I really hope I misunderstood this but if it's true then eve really is dying, perhaps not the game itself but "eve" as a sandbox.
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Kasidis
Gallente Nexus.6
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Posted - 2011.06.15 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Kasidis on 15/06/2011 00:41:36
Originally by: Rixiu
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel Thanks for watching yesterday. This is my first chance to pop on and answer your questions.
We are still finalizing our pricing for the items. So in order to facilitate testing, we just put everything up for 1 Aurum or 2 Aurum. If you see a price suddenly change from 1 to 2 or 3, it's because I'm making changes in real time to test "offers" and I'm changing the price to be sure it's a new offer that is being displayed. But those prices are not going to resemble the real prices.
But the exchange rate is real. 1 PLEX converts into 3500 Aurum and that's not changing. And it's not variable. PLEX are just too big so we are breaking them down fairly small to give us lots of flexibility.
In this first version of the store, we don't yet have support for BPCs. Specifically, we can't tell the BPC how many runs it has on it. So we can't use that as a way to sell the Ishukone Watch Scorpion battleship. Right now our plan is to temporarily sell whole ships until this fall when we will switch to requiring a normal Scorpion as part of the price. BPCs would have worked too, if we could support that. The CSM felt that a short period of time selling the whole ship would not meaningfully hurt the EVE economy or Scorpion ship builders.
Regarding other blueprints like tattoos and clothing? We are still working on ideas like this. Those take design work but we hope to offer things in that general direction one day. No promises other than we won't get that far this year. We have a big queue of stuff for our designers to work on.
Wait, did you just say we can buy ships for real money? Granted they have the exact same stats but I really hope I misunderstood this but if it's true then eve really is dying, perhaps not the game itself but "eve" as a sandbox.
No, you buy the paint-job in the form of a bpc then buy a real player-made ship and manufacture it. Therefore everything still works as it used too.
EDIT: That will be this fall. Until then you can buy the full ship with AUR, which I'm no too happy with.
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Jaigar
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Posted - 2011.06.15 01:24:00 -
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It doesn't mean it will hurt the scorpion market. If the Aurum cost is roughly 1000 (which is over 100 mil ISK about), how many people do you really think are going to buy the ship as an alternative to buying a normal version with ISK?
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Kasidis
Gallente Nexus.6
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Posted - 2011.06.15 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: Jaigar It doesn't mean it will hurt the scorpion market. If the Aurum cost is roughly 1000 (which is over 100 mil ISK about), how many people do you really think are going to buy the ship as an alternative to buying a normal version with ISK?
Very valid point, considering it has the exact same stats as a scorpion. I'm just worried CCP is going to loose some subs because of this.
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Typhado3
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.15 04:20:00 -
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Edited by: Typhado3 on 15/06/2011 04:20:57 nvm ------------------------------ God is an afk cloaker
I'm keeping the Silhouette till I have tats - I HAVE TATS \o/, behold mortals |
Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.06.15 04:42:00 -
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Keep panicking, folks. I'm sure all those hundreds of thousands of people willing to spend real money on a Scorpion that's even more likely to be primaried will radically destabilize the economy.
"But the p-p-p-p-p-p-p-principle!" I hear you cry.
Well folks, don't worry, I have it on good authority that this is a video game and that further, you should go outside or failing that, try caring about something that actually matters in the world.
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Jareck Hunter
Rubicon Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.15 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel In this first version of the store, we don't yet have support for BPCs. Specifically, we can't tell the BPC how many runs it has on it. So we can't use that as a way to sell the Ishukone Watch Scorpion battleship. Right now our plan is to temporarily sell whole ships until this fall when we will switch to requiring a normal Scorpion as part of the price. BPCs would have worked too, if we could support that. The CSM felt that a short period of time selling the whole ship would not meaningfully hurt the EVE economy or Scorpion ship builders.
Are you ****ing high or something, got to much sun?
Spawning ingame-items for rl-money in a game known for it's realistic economy?
You are crossing a border, that shall not be crossed. I don't care if it is for a short time and 1 item only, because let's be honest, you are becomming a ****ing bunch of greedy bastards in your corporation and nobody is knowing what comes next.... maybe 1 mil sp for 5$?
I allready regret to have renewed my subscription some days ago....
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Ciar Meara
Amarr Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.06.15 12:09:00 -
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Edited by: Ciar Meara on 15/06/2011 12:09:56 THIS
Originally by: Jareck Hunter
[...] Spawning ingame-items for rl-money in a game known for it's realistic economy? You are crossing a border, that shall not be crossed. [...] I allready regret to have renewed my subscription some days ago....
Finish the system as it should be or don't release it!
I work with a years worth of subscription, which I renewed only a month or two ago.
As I said before, I love to have an economic interpretation by our resident doctor in Economy Dr CCP Dr.EyjoG.
Something like this opens up your closed system and any research you do in this system is therefore seriously compromised (I'd guess). ------------------------------------------------- A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
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Salomei
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Posted - 2011.06.15 13:02:00 -
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I think they're trying to figure out what we consider a "micro" transaction. If micro turns out to be "less than $2", they sell the fancy trousers for $3 and claim, "look! no microtransactions!".
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Kagumichan
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Posted - 2011.06.16 22:43:00 -
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I don't quite follow everything everyone is shouting about but I'm gonna try and put in my thoughts on the matter:
Although it will be the case that people can use Aurum to buy a shiny gold scorpion, which will probably sell for a fair bit more than a normal Scorpion even though it's exactly the same but shiny and gold, it may cost say... 3000 Aurum to buy it, making it almost as much as the price of a plex in Aurum standards (since plex will be 3500 Aurum) which translates as about.... ú10 (GBP, dunno how it works out in euro or other currencies). How many people do you suppose are going to keep firing ú10 into the system constantly to get a shiny gold scorpion to sell in the market? Also the people who would want to buy one in the first place would financially be better off buying one by using their own RL money for it (unless they're rich in Eve and could buy one off the bat, in which case they don't lose out on anything and the seller is ú10 worse off in RL but has a few more iskies to spend buying something else). It's a system that's almost identical to how people use PLEX, some buy it with real money from the website and sell it for in-game money, some buy it with in-game money to use it so they don't have to spend real money, and nobody complains about how that works.
Selling ships for Aurum to me seems very similar to what Blizzard do with their store for Warcraft, you can buy mounts and pets for real money IF you want one, sure those aren't transferrable to other people but it's a similar idea.
Plus selling them for aurum to begin with gets the market going and then they can build on that by adding the additions of getting them with aurum + a ship, you have to get the ball rolling in a market first then once it's stabilised you can ease out the profit margin and make it easier for everyone.
I see no problem with what they're doing, it sounds like a great idea, and if people are gonna cry about it then think about how things in real life sell (think back to the days of the Nintendo 64, it was ú200 on first release and some people bought it then because they reeeeaaaally wanted it, after a year it's priced dropped to ú100 so people who wanted one but weren't desperate for it could afford it)
Of course I may have gotten the entire arguement completely wrong and rambled about something totally irrelevant, but as I said at the start, I don't quite follow what everyone is shouting about. (Let the flaming begin :D)
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