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Posted - 2011.06.15 19:06:00 -
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Unless CCP wants people to stop developing eve-related sites and services this is stupid on an epic scale. As a web developer I, like many others, have small side-projects dedicated to hobbies.
Many developers will devote hundreds of hours to making a site/app/service with the vain hope that when they hit it big they will be able to buy... I don't know... a new monitor. Almost never happens. Like 99% of the time.
I doubt this is about the money for CCP, however the $99 yearly charge is simply ill-thought out.
A one-time $20 fee sounds about right, adapt or die.
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Posted - 2011.06.15 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dierdra Vaal Edited by: Dierdra Vaal on 15/06/2011 19:25:34 I would urge CCP to amend or clarify their policy to state the following rules:
1: If you make any real-world (dollars, euros, whatever) profit (this means: after covering your costs) off your service/app/website, you need a commercial licence.
2: If you do not make any real world profit off your service/app/website, you can use the non-commercial licence.
This will allow people to monetize their apps for profit, but not hurt those who just provide a service for their corp or for eve, at their own expense (server costs, etc).
Sorry that is almost equally stupid. Like CCP wants to chase developers and audit their nickels and dimes...
As said before, one time low cost fee is the only way out of this mess.
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Posted - 2011.06.15 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Manifest Clarification post will be coming shortly. Just wanted to let ya'll know we know this thread needs it.
More than simply a clarification is needed.
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Posted - 2011.06.15 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atlas
3) This project is not about CCP making money. Whether we charge $100 or $50 or $10 for a commercial license won't make a big difference to our balance sheet. $99 is the lowest that we estimated that we could reasonably go and still justify the cost of the service. If this is too high for app developers, this is something that could possibly be revisited.
This is where the bull**** comes in. If you need to charge to justify the service and developers have the option of a non-commercial license then something doesn't add up.
You provide the service to foster the grassroots community. It's a cost of doing business, call it marketing. If you charge anything other than a one-time nominal fee you will most likely see a decline in developer support.
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Posted - 2011.06.15 20:06:00 -
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First of all, let's clarify that this is not about the money for CCP. MT: Yes, This fiasco: No.
Some suggestions
1. Free development license: allows you to develop your service/website/app or deploy a non-profit version. 2. Nominal fee for ad-supported websites and services: One time $10 or $20. Developers who join will be listed on an "official" eve-hosted list of sites - give a little something back to the developer 3. "Whatever bizdev decides" fee for subscription apps/services: Honestly I don't see the point, but separating a pay-to-use app or service from the average website will inoculate CCP from some of the backlash.
Finally, please no more bull**** about how much it costs to support the service. We love to see the APIs and Static data dumps, it's why we develop services for EVE. If you don't like it shut them down.
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Posted - 2011.06.16 00:49:00 -
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CCP isn't doing this for the money, they are trying to a> police the IP and b> enable people to make money selling their eve-related apps and services.
They just went about it in a spectacularly poor fashion as usual.
Having the CEO roll his eyes at his 'whining customers' doesn't help, and let's us all know where we stand. CCP are one of, if not the most arrogant developers in the business, ask anyone who meets the execs at a GDC.
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