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Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.16 14:16:00 - [31] Page 8 says 2 characters per account... I havent read anything about accounts per player YET.
Rasz Lin Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated	Posted - 2011.06.16 18:48:00 - [32] You need to remember that CCP counts PLEXed accounts as paying subscribers, now look how Buddy program works and laugh. They are cooking books.
Terrante	Posted - 2011.06.16 18:53:00 - [33] Originally by: Rasz Lin You need to remember that CCP counts PLEXed accounts as paying subscribers, now look how Buddy program works and laugh. They are cooking books. Somebody had to buy those PLEX with RLM! For subscribers check: MMO Data.net
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.06.16 18:53:00 - [34] Originally by: Rasz Lin You need to remember that CCP counts PLEXed accounts as paying subscribers, now look how Buddy program works and laugh. They are cooking books. Riight, because EEEVERYBODY is continuously making fresh buddy accounts and dropping them as soon as the "free" period is over, amirite ? We're somewhere in between 340k and 360k accounts, and between 1.2 to 1.4 actual accounts per player. Actual active player count, between 240k and 300k. Give or take. Then subtract 15k bots and another 25k players that just go in to change skills, and you're around 200k to 260k actual people you're likely to ever talk with. _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts
Rasz Lin Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated	Posted - 2011.06.18 04:43:00 - [35] Edited by: Rasz Lin on 18/06/2011 04:44:49 Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Rasz Lin You need to remember that CCP counts PLEXed accounts as paying subscribers, now look how Buddy program works and laugh. They are cooking books. Riight, because EEEVERYBODY is continuously making fresh buddy accounts and dropping them as soon as the "free" period is over, amirite ? Not everybody, only all the people i know. Free scouting alt you can run next to your main without trial limitations for 51 days.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.06.18 04:45:00 - [36] It's important to note they don't count trail accounts towards the total.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island	Posted - 2011.06.18 04:51:00 - [37] I haz 1 account Originally by: Xenuria I don't need a LICENSE to take a photoshooped image and lay it on top of the game client and make pretend my character is naked.
Rasz Lin Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated	Posted - 2011.06.18 05:14:00 - [38] Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 18/06/2011 04:52:47 It's important to note they don't count trail accounts towards the total. has one account its important to note converting trial to "full paid" 51 day account is FREE I like how some people dont get that fact ..
Markis Silvairi Infinite Covenant BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.06.18 05:17:00 - [39] Just a guess here but I would think the main reason Eve has more multi-account users is that you can really only train one toon at a time whereas the other mmo's you can work on all toons on a single account. Granted that's mainly cause of the length of time to train skills and having to stop training on one to do the other instead of "leveling" as you go on who you choose to play at the time.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.06.18 05:21:00 - [40] Originally by: Rasz Lin Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 18/06/2011 04:52:47 It's important to note they don't count trail accounts towards the total. has one account its important to note converting trial to "full paid" 51 day account is FREE I like how some people dont get that fact .. how Is it free? why does the cost matter? How does that change the fact they don't count trail accounts towards total sub numbers?

Jojo Jackson Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.18 05:31:00 - [41] Originally by: Katrina Cortez Their latest expansion, Incursion, is also generally better received by the playerbase than the previous, Tyrannis and it seems CCP is listening more to the players now than ever. You mean they listen more to the 4% which post here? Is it cleaver to listen to 4% and ignore 96% ?
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.06.18 09:11:00 - [42] Originally by: Brooks Puuntai I don't think I trust a site that spells January as Januari and July as Juli Those months are written in Swedish.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.06.18 09:16:00 - [43] Originally by: Rasz Lin Not everybody, only all the people i know. Free scouting alt you can run next to your main without trial limitations for 51 days. You might want to tell these acquaintances of yours to read the stickies in that case. _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.06.18 09:37:00 - [44] DINSDALE! ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Rasz Lin Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated	Posted - 2011.06.18 10:18:00 - [45] Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: Rasz Lin Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 18/06/2011 04:52:47 It's important to note they don't count trail accounts towards the total. has one account its important to note converting trial to "full paid" 51 day account is FREE I like how some people dont get that fact .. how Is it free? as in ISK and money duh Originally by: MotherMoon why does the cost matter? How does that change the fact they don't count trail accounts towards total sub numbers? those are NOT trial accounts, you can make 10 of them per month and they will be counted as "full paid" ones while being totally free for you for 51 days, seriously how dense are you? Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Rasz Lin Not everybody, only all the people i know. Free scouting alt you can run next to your main without trial limitations for 51 days. You might want to tell these acquaintances of yours to read the stickies in that case. Maybe you should read it whats under that link.
Katra Novac	Posted - 2011.06.18 10:25:00 - [46] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Rasz Lin You need to remember that CCP counts PLEXed accounts as paying subscribers, now look how Buddy program works and laugh. They are cooking books. Riight, because EEEVERYBODY is continuously making fresh buddy accounts and dropping them as soon as the "free" period is over, amirite ? We're somewhere in between 340k and 360k accounts, and between 1.2 to 1.4 actual accounts per player. Actual active player count, between 240k and 300k. Give or take. Then subtract 15k bots and another 25k players that just go in to change skills, and you're around 200k to 260k actual people you're likely to ever talk with. I have 5 accounts, only 1 active atm, but I also know of people with 10 active accounts. So 1.2 to 1.4 actual accounts per player seems a bit low unless you are adding all the trial accounts.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.06.18 12:04:00 - [47] Edited by: Akita T on 18/06/2011 12:06:38 Originally by: Rasz Lin Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Rasz Lin Not everybody, only all the people i know. Free scouting alt you can run next to your main without trial limitations for 51 days. You might want to tell these acquaintances of yours to read the stickies in that case. Maybe you should read it whats under that link. "[...]Abusing the Buddy System is considered an exploit and will not be tolerated. Incidents will be handled on a case by case basis [...] Abuse includes, but is not limited to[...]" Maybe you should UNDERSTAND what it says there. Originally by: Katra Novac I have 5 accounts, only 1 active atm, but I also know of people with 10 active accounts. So 1.2 to 1.4 actual accounts per player seems a bit low unless you are adding all the trial accounts. Keyword "seems". And, to you. People with loads of accounts generally hang out with people with loads of accounts, and people with plenty of accounts are far more likely to be encountered than people with just one account. As to why that is, it should be obvious. People that play longer and in more involved fashions will tend to have multiple accounts, so each of them will be online longer, and combined far, far more compared to the single account of the guy that has no alts. Basically, it just SEEMS almost everybody has a zillion alts - because that's who you usually find online. _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts
Rasz Lin Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated	Posted - 2011.06.19 01:01:00 - [48] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 18/06/2011 12:11:00 Originally by: Rasz Lin Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Rasz Lin Not everybody, only all the people i know. Free scouting alt you can run next to your main without trial limitations for 51 days. You might want to tell these acquaintances of yours to read the stickies in that case. Maybe you should read it whats under that link. "[...] Abusing the Buddy System is considered an exploit and will not be tolerated. Incidents will be handled on a case by case basis and action taken may include bans for all accounts involved [...] Abuse includes, but is not limited to [...]" Maybe you should UNDERSTAND what it says there. Creating fresh non-trial scout alts and keeping them active without actually paying for any of them is a textbook case of abusing the system, and WILL lead to warnings or even bans of the mains if reported/discovered. Great, report me then and see how it goes.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.19 03:06:00 - [49] Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 19/06/2011 03:08:54 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 16/06/2011 03:38:22 I think it's up to 600k accounts so income from players is about 9m a month. CCP takes RMT to the max I'm not even thinking about Blizzard though, those numbers make my eyes cross 600k is the crazy stupid target Hilmar set when they hit 250k or so last year (year before?). Since then they've hidden the stats as to reveal them would cause further fail-cascade.


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