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Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.06.17 05:49:00 - [1] Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 17/06/2011 05:52:48 Market Capitalization - 4,000,000,000 (4,000,000 Shares x 1000 ISK) Net Profit - 223,273,419 Price to Earning's - 18 to 1 (4,000,000,000/223,273,419) Per Share Practical Value (IPO) 1000 ISK Per Share Practical Value (Current) 1027 ISK (111,636,709+4,000,000,000/4,000,000) Dividends Paid to Date 111,636,709 ISK Current Market Capitalization 4,111,536,709
Vinita Queen	Posted - 2011.06.17 05:53:00 - [2] Edited by: Vinita Queen on 17/06/2011 05:56:07 Reserved. Damn forum Changeups. Market Alt.
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.06.17 05:58:00 - [3] Reserved. Trying to have the other removed.
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.06.17 07:13:00 - [4] Reserved.
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:39:00 - [5] Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 22/06/2011 01:40:28 111,636,709 ISK Paid to Shareholders on 6/17/11
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:41:00 - [6] 117196854 ISK Paid to Shareholders on 6/22/11
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.06.28 09:25:00 - [7] Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 28/06/2011 09:25:05 108,368,524 ISK Paid to Shareholders on 6/28/11
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.07.06 20:47:00 - [8] Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 06/07/2011 20:47:19 89,216,565 ISK Paid to Shareholders on 7/06/11
OllieNorth Gallente R-K Industries	Posted - 2011.07.06 21:37:00 - [9] Me likey, keep it up Caliph.
Migrator Soul Minmatar 15 Minute Outliers	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:41:00 - [10] Caliph, way to go man, keep taking care of business. You may actually set a trend of decent investments in eve. You have treated your investors well, me being one of them, and kept us informed and involved in the decision making processes. +1
br00tor	Posted - 2011.07.11 19:54:00 - [11] How would one become an investor for this?
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.07.12 11:22:00 - [12] Originally by: br00tor How would one become an investor for this? Put a order in this thread for how many you want. Its likely to cost you the current market assessed value per share. When you put in the order contact me and be ready to send me the isk. I will then broker a deal between those on my list and the purchaser. Under certain circumstances (a rather large order) a vote may be called to expand the base number of shares. We are currently in the process of how best to handle share expansion and its leaning towards internal first and then brokering to the public. Whatever the case your purchase will be covered within a day or two (people might not be logged on that second) or you will recieve a full refund. You will have to transfer the money to me first as there is no trade window for shares and it can only be done safely through third party. The second option is to wait for a public offering of shares, which may or may not be cheaper and has no guarentee of when nor how many shares will be available.
Liberty Eternal	Posted - 2011.07.12 11:37:00 - [13] I have to say that it really bugs me that an example of blatant intimidation and censorship is being seen to work. Just my $0.02
Tigerras Smash Incorporated	Posted - 2011.07.12 23:20:00 - [14] Originally by: Liberty Eternal I have to say that it really bugs me that an example of blatant intimidation and censorship is being seen to work. Just my $0.02 I'm clearly missing something --------------------------------------- Tigerras's Audits and Third-Party Servicing
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.07.16 18:24:00 - [15] 119,907,658 ISK Paid to Shareholders on 7/16/11
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.07.25 16:54:00 - [16] 256,389,104 ISK Paid to Shareholders on 7/25/11
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.08.05 16:03:00 - [17] 216,928,048 ISK Paid to Shareholders on 8/05/11
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.08.16 23:44:00 - [18] 216,168,851 ISK Paid to Shareholders on 8/16/2011.
RAW23	Posted - 2011.08.17 12:41:00 - [19] Originally by: Tigerras Originally by: Liberty Eternal I have to say that it really bugs me that an example of blatant intimidation and censorship is being seen to work. Just my $0.02 I'm clearly missing something See his original thread in which he threatens to release rl personal data on anyone who criticises his offering (http://eve-search.com/thread/1523236/page/2).
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.08.17 12:48:00 - [20] Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 17/08/2011 12:48:35 Originally by: RAW23 Originally by: Tigerras Originally by: Liberty Eternal I have to say that it really bugs me that an example of blatant intimidation and censorship is being seen to work. Just my $0.02 I'm clearly missing something See his original thread in which he threatens to release rl personal data on anyone who criticises his offering (http://eve-search.com/thread/1523236/page/2). I didn't threaten anything, I linked it as it was posted on the net. I don't make idle threats. And furthermore it linked one fake poser Roguehalo and not a soul else. So **** off.
Lauren Hellfury Full Pocket Aggro	Posted - 2011.08.17 12:52:00 - [21] Linkified and pointed at the post because I am a nice person. In addition I'd like to point out that since Caliph has yet to reach 2 years in game his whole "1B max uncollat per year" schtick obviously doesn't apply to him Double standard much?
Lauren Hellfury Full Pocket Aggro	Posted - 2011.08.17 12:54:00 - [22] Oh, Caliph, whilst I remember: I agree there are too many **** threads at the top...... oh snap.
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.08.17 12:55:00 - [23] Originally by: Lauren Hellfury Linkified and pointed at the post because I am a nice person. In addition I'd like to point out that since Caliph has yet to reach 2 years in game his whole "1B max uncollat per year" schtick obviously doesn't apply to him Double standard much? Hey Lauren if you checked your orders you'd see my name up there. I can demonstrate my market moves. You've bought stuff from me. Smooches.
Lauren Hellfury Full Pocket Aggro	Posted - 2011.08.17 12:56:00 - [24] Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Originally by: Lauren Hellfury Linkified and pointed at the post because I am a nice person. In addition I'd like to point out that since Caliph has yet to reach 2 years in game his whole "1B max uncollat per year" schtick obviously doesn't apply to him Double standard much? Hey Lauren if you checked your orders you'd see my name up there. I can demonstrate my market moves. You've bought stuff from me. Smooches. And what, exactly, does that have to do with anything I mentioned in the post you quoted? Stop being terrible.
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.08.17 13:04:00 - [25] Originally by: Lauren Hellfury Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Originally by: Lauren Hellfury Linkified and pointed at the post because I am a nice person. In addition I'd like to point out that since Caliph has yet to reach 2 years in game his whole "1B max uncollat per year" schtick obviously doesn't apply to him Double standard much? Hey Lauren if you checked your orders you'd see my name up there. I can demonstrate my market moves. You've bought stuff from me. Smooches. And what, exactly, does that have to do with anything I mentioned in the post you quoted? Stop being terrible. It has to do with me being able to back up what I say. Through laying out a business plan, having the will to do the work and make it work, so on and so forth.
RAW23	Posted - 2011.08.17 13:12:00 - [26] Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Originally by: RAW23 See his original thread in which he threatens to release rl personal data on anyone who criticises his offering (http://eve-search.com/thread/1523236/page/2). I didn't threaten anything, I linked it as it was posted on the net. I don't make idle threats. And furthermore it linked one fake poser Roguehalo and not a soul else. One troll who wanted to make it a point to ruin my thread with psuedointellectual claims of scamming. Anyway Raw you can kiss my as.s P.iss on you and your fake ass MD Cred. Of course. I forgot you don't threaten to do these things. You actually do them. You also said in your thread that you would falsify claims of scamming against people that annoyed you. Presumably that was what this was all about (Impotence and incoherence).
Lauren Hellfury Full Pocket Aggro	Posted - 2011.08.17 13:12:00 - [27] Originally by: Caliph Muhammed It has to do with me being able to back up what I say. Through laying out a business plan, having the will to do the work and make it work, so on and so forth. No it doesn't. Because your "proof" is just an assertion. Besides, you spam your bullcrap "1b per year in game" without any apparent thought to the proposed plan or even seek to establish any proof beforehand. It's very simple: Monkey see new offer thread. Monkey see how old char is. Monkey spam 1b per year crap. If you expect me to "prove" you do trade then you're gonna have to pay me. There are literally thousands of individual names in my wallet history. Why shouldn't you have cropped up once? Oh, and how are you doing with finding out RL info on me?
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.08.17 13:19:00 - [28] Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 17/08/2011 13:20:14 Originally by: Lauren Hellfury Originally by: Caliph Muhammed It has to do with me being able to back up what I say. Through laying out a business plan, having the will to do the work and make it work, so on and so forth. No it doesn't. Because your "proof" is just an assertion. Besides, you spam your bullcrap "1b per year in game" without any apparent thought to the proposed plan or even seek to establish any proof beforehand. It's very simple: Monkey see new offer thread. Monkey see how old char is. Monkey spam 1b per year crap. If you expect me to "prove" you do trade then you're gonna have to pay me. There are literally thousands of individual names in my wallet history. Why shouldn't you have cropped up once? Oh, and how are you doing with finding out RL info on me? I dont need you to prove anything for me. My fund is already going. Those that choose to participate in it can vouch for recieving there money exactly as stated. Hell I think at this point they've recieved 50% back of their initial investment in dividends. I mean if it were a scam I think at this point giving 50% back documented as it is would be a little ridiculous. Hell, with the level of intelligence on this forum it would be much simpler to just make the crap offerings inundating the forum already. One guy walked away with like 3-4 billion in what a day? Im busting my ass to make something worth bothering with and im getting griefed. Gimme a break.
Lauren Hellfury Full Pocket Aggro	Posted - 2011.08.17 13:22:00 - [29] Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Gimme a break. No. See above posts, particularly from RAW.
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.08.17 13:22:00 - [30] Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 17/08/2011 13:23:05 Originally by: RAW23 Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Originally by: RAW23 See his original thread in which he threatens to release rl personal data on anyone who criticises his offering (http://eve-search.com/thread/1523236/page/2). I didn't threaten anything, I linked it as it was posted on the net. I don't make idle threats. And furthermore it linked one fake poser Roguehalo and not a soul else. One troll who wanted to make it a point to ruin my thread with psuedointellectual claims of scamming. Anyway Raw you can kiss my as.s P.iss on you and your fake ass MD Cred. Of course. I forgot you don't threaten to do these things. You actually do them. You also said in your thread that you would falsify claims of scamming against people that annoyed you. Presumably that was what this was all about (Impotence and incoherence). Raw I didn't falsify anything against you, I merely trolled you and after you weighed in on my threads, when I know you are in fact intelligent, you deserved it. And It was a post or two, just playing around. But if you want keep a grudge then do so.
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.08.17 13:28:00 - [31] Originally by: Lauren Hellfury Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Gimme a break. No. See above posts, particularly from RAW. Lauren my question to you, is why are you taking what I say so personal? Is one of the offerings your alt? Myself, i'm tired of seeing people walk away with insane amounts of money in the most obvious scams ever while people who actually try and create a virtual market are disregarded or spammed onto page 5. Im sorry you can't appreciate that. Furthermore my thread was created before the recent rash of posts and actually I recieved about two billion of public funding. Im very close to two years old, this is my main and I have one character alt with no skill points to check a market I dont hang near.
RAW23	Posted - 2011.08.17 13:29:00 - [32] Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Raw I didn't falsify anything against you, I merely trolled you and after you weighed in on my threads, when I know you are in fact intelligent, you deserved it. And It was a post or two, just playing around. But if you want keep a grudge then do so. What's clear is that someone holds a grudge here. Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Anyway Raw you can kiss my as.s P.iss on you and your fake ass MD Cred.
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.08.17 13:33:00 - [33] Originally by: RAW23 Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Raw I didn't falsify anything against you, I merely trolled you and after you weighed in on my threads, when I know you are in fact intelligent, you deserved it. And It was a post or two, just playing around. But if you want keep a grudge then do so. What's clear is that someone holds a grudge here. Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Anyway Raw you can kiss my as.s P.iss on you and your fake ass MD Cred. Raw I told you in your thread I was playing around, I dont have a grudge against you. I'm gonna leave it at that. Perhaps I did get a little upset but why out of the blue would you come and take a dig on my fund? You wanted a reaction and you got one.
Lauren Hellfury Full Pocket Aggro	Posted - 2011.08.17 13:43:00 - [34] Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Lauren my question to you, is why are you taking what I say so personal? Is one of the offerings your alt? Nope. I only ask for isk with this char. Or is this where you start to make stuff up in an attempt to make me look bad? You know, like you said you'd do to people that didn't accept you at your word without question? Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Myself, i'm tired of seeing people walk away with insane amounts of money in the most obvious scams ever while people who actually try and create a virtual market are disregarded or spammed onto page 5. Im sorry you can't appreciate that. What makes you think that my annoyance over your craptastic "method" for establishing risk and your endeavours to spam it into as many threads as possible has anything to do with not wanting to see a better standard in here? Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Furthermore my thread was created before the recent rash of posts and actually I recieved about two billion of public funding. Im very close to two years old, this is my main and I have one character alt with no skill points to check a market I dont hang near. And because quite honestly, if someone doesn't stand up and do something you can forget about ever having a real market discussion or world because all MD will ever be is a haven for scammers and the daft. You'll fit right in then. What you are doing in no way helps and by that I mean both your attitude when dealing with criticism and spamming useless bullcrap. Get a clue.
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.08.17 13:50:00 - [35] Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 17/08/2011 13:52:47 I love how you're over analyzing everything and pretending your enlightening me. Its simple. As a stopgap not loaning anything over a billion to a character less than a year will remove 99% of all the throw away alts from scamming. The 1 billion per year is a good number where the amount invested wouldn't be to high as to burn a toons rep for profit. And im going to repeat it on every new thread. So at this point whether you like it or not, this is how it's going to be.
Lauren Hellfury Full Pocket Aggro	Posted - 2011.08.17 13:55:00 - [36] Care to show me where you think I'm over analyzing? And you yet again prove that your "method" has nothing to do with anything other than a char's age. Please explain why you are or should be exempt from this?
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.08.17 13:58:00 - [37] Originally by: Lauren Hellfury Care to show me where you think I'm over analyzing? And you yet again prove that your "method" has nothing to do with anything other than a char's age. Please explain why you are or should be exempt from this? I never said I should be exempt from this. Hell, I didnt want multiple hundreds of millions from anyone investor. Strrog talked me into selling him what was left of the shares. And again this was 2 months ago starting out? It's not a method. It's common friggin sense.
Lauren Hellfury Full Pocket Aggro	Posted - 2011.08.17 14:04:00 - [38] Edited by: Lauren Hellfury on 17/08/2011 14:05:49 Originally by: Caliph Muhammed It's not a method. It's common friggin sense. You're damn right on the first part, but somewhat wrong with the second. Originally by: Caliph Muhammed And I did include that audits, past performance and credible investor vouching could allow for a scaled larger loan. And which of those did you have that made you feel that you should go for more than 2b a couple of months ago?
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.08.17 14:07:00 - [39] And by the way when the fund started it was 4 million shares at 1000 each. I bought 2,100,000 so the loan wasnt for 2 billion, but less than. And before Strrog it was for a few hundred million total. Let that sink in.
Lauren Hellfury Full Pocket Aggro	Posted - 2011.08.17 14:10:00 - [40] Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 16/08/2011 23:10:27 Total Shares - 4,763,800 Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 17/08/2011 00:09:41 List of Shareholders Arancar Australis 100,000 Augren Ferguson 140,845 Caliph Muhammed 2,391,055 Chevalleis 25,000 Coty 13,000 Emma d'Acques 15,000 Mayor Scott Kurvora 15,000 Meranan 100,000 Migrator Soul 280,000 Natsett Amuinn 5,000 OllieNorth 45,000 SprSpaceGurl Aucie 500 Strrog 1,623,400 XinliSupreme 10,000 I act as a 3rd party broker free of charge. If you buy shares or trade yours away without using me as a third party and happen to get swindled, you are SOL. If you are interested in purchasing shares or curious about how anything works, contact me in game or leave a message. Originally by: Caliph Muhammed And by the way when the fund started it was 4 million shares at 1000 each. I bought 2,100,000 so the loan wasnt for 2 billion, but less than. And before Strrog it was for a few hundred million total. Let that sink in. So if it's not for more than 2b and there are a little over 4.7m shares in existence do you only hold a little under 2.4m shares? lrn2math.
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.08.17 14:14:00 - [41] Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 17/08/2011 14:16:31 Originally by: Lauren Hellfury Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 16/08/2011 23:10:27 Total Shares - 4,763,800 Originally by: Caliph Muhammed Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 17/08/2011 00:09:41 List of Shareholders Arancar Australis 100,000 Augren Ferguson 140,845 Caliph Muhammed 2,391,055 Chevalleis 25,000 Coty 13,000 Emma d'Acques 15,000 Mayor Scott Kurvora 15,000 Meranan 100,000 Migrator Soul 280,000 Natsett Amuinn 5,000 OllieNorth 45,000 SprSpaceGurl Aucie 500 Strrog 1,623,400 XinliSupreme 10,000 I act as a 3rd party broker free of charge. If you buy shares or trade yours away without using me as a third party and happen to get swindled, you are SOL. If you are interested in purchasing shares or curious about how anything works, contact me in game or leave a message. Originally by: Caliph Muhammed And by the way when the fund started it was 4 million shares at 1000 each. I bought 2,100,000 so the loan wasnt for 2 billion, but less than. And before Strrog it was for a few hundred million total. Let that sink in. So if it's not for more than 2b and there are a little over 4.7m shares in existence do you only hold a little under 2.4m shares? lrn2math. I can math just fine, the problem is im conversing with someone who isn't privy to our internal fund expansion. Your arguments are weak, misconstrued and your failing. I allow my shareholders the chance to increase there holdings in the corp by buying more shares. The total sum bought by our members is matched by me to maintain 50+%. Try harder. Did I force my investors to buy more? Nah. They did it willingly.
Lauren Hellfury Full Pocket Aggro	Posted - 2011.08.17 14:26:00 - [42] No. You still have more than 1b for each year you have been in game. You haven't provided anything that you yourself would consider to be mitigating factors to exempt you from this. The dividends that you claim to have paid could easily have come from the invested Isk, so don't try that one. And you still want to post this bullcrap in every offering that comes along. I'll be sticking with "double standard much?"
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.08.17 14:31:00 - [43] Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 17/08/2011 14:38:18 Originally by: Lauren Hellfury No. You still have more than 1b for each year you have been in game. You haven't provided anything that you yourself would consider to be mitigating factors to exempt you from this. The dividends that you claim to have paid could easily have come from the invested Isk, so don't try that one. And you still want to post this bullcrap in every offering that comes along. I'll be sticking with "double standard much?" You can stick with whatever you want. Of course as the fund grows ill be investing more than 2 billion. Thats obvious Sherlock. The difference is im demonstrating a track record of results and not asking to walk out day one with 15 billion. And soon my investors will have recieved their total investment in dividends which means they are in it for 100% profit, unquestionable. Actually there should be one question. Why would I do this? That Lauren is unprovable. But if words mean anything, because I value honesty and loyalty. When you demonstrate those to me I give them back. When you do not I won't. And no that doesn't mean if you were to buy 100 shares I would rip you off. Its in the general sense.
Callean Drevus Caldari Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping Silent Infinity	Posted - 2011.08.17 14:56:00 - [44] Honestly, I cannot see what all this fuzz is about? You are just bashing each other without any hint of a satisfying outcome. I suggest you both stop, but at least you Caliph, since I can tell you this string of posts is starting to reflect much worse on you than the original few posts could ever do. --- "A fool flatters himself, a wise man flatters the fool." Chief Developer of EVE Marketeer.
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service	Posted - 2011.08.17 15:02:00 - [45] Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 17/08/2011 15:08:40 Originally by: Callean Drevus Honestly, I cannot see what all this fuzz is about? You are just bashing each other without any hint of a satisfying outcome. I suggest you both stop, but at least you Caliph, since I can tell you this string of posts is starting to reflect much worse on you than the original few posts could ever do. Reflect bad on me? Blah, its not worth the argument. Let's just say with the quality of inhabitants and the clique mentality, why would anyone care? I'm getting more flak than the daily scam postings. I mean the people here griefing me wouldn't invest 1000 isk for one share but walk around getting penetrated for billions at a crack. I don't want their respect. To Hek with them. Oh yeah, LOL at the EVE community being seen as a pillar of integrity.
OllieNorth Gallente R-K Industries	Posted - 2011.08.17 15:38:00 - [46] Caliph, please, I have enjoyed results so far, but please stop getting into internet fights. If you keep it up, I might not be able to resist my troll instincts any more. It bothers me to have to troll a thread that I have invested in, so please stop taking the bait. Love and kisses, -Ollie
Arancar Australis	Posted - 2011.08.17 15:49:00 - [47] Originally by: OllieNorth Caliph, please, I have enjoyed results so far, but please stop getting into internet fights. If you keep it up, I might not be able to resist my troll instincts any more. It bothers me to have to troll a thread that I have invested in, so please stop taking the bait. Love and kisses, -Ollie Caliph, I'd be more worried about Ollie and his love and kisses ratherr then a differing set of opions, mate. Just keep up the good work you have done so far. And to everyone, when did playing a game become so serious?? You know fun and all that marlarkey
OllieNorth Gallente R-K Industries	Posted - 2011.08.17 15:52:00 - [48] Originally by: Arancar Australis Edited by: Arancar Australis on 17/08/2011 15:49:50 Originally by: OllieNorth Caliph, please, I have enjoyed results so far, but please stop getting into internet fights. If you keep it up, I might not be able to resist my troll instincts any more. It bothers me to have to troll a thread that I have invested in, so please stop taking the bait. Love and kisses, -Ollie Caliph, I'd be more worried about Ollie and his love and kisses rather then a differing set of views, mate. Just keep up the good work you have done so far. And to everyone, when did playing a game become so serious?? You know fun and all that marlarkey Feeling left out? There is more than enough to go around!
RAW23	Posted - 2011.08.17 17:10:00 - [49] Quote: Caliph Muhammed has set their standing to terrible towards you.
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