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Lilianna Star
SAZI Enterprises
The Aslyum
93
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Posted - 2012.09.12 06:46:00 -
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I know I just made a post in the feedback section defending the state of missiles. But posting that got me thinking about the real state of balance for missiles.
As for the true state of whether or not it is balanced, I came to this conclusion: Missiles are friggin' weird man.
Missiles, as they are, have no true hard counter unlike turrets. Not only that, no tracking means no mobility DPS penalty. But they suffer the problem if traveling to targets which can cause problems.
So is it possible for a weapon to be both sub par and completely broken? Is it like Schr+¦dinger's balance? (Somewhere, a quantum physicist is crying)
What do you think? |
iownuall123
GRIM MARCH
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
18
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Posted - 2012.09.12 06:53:00 -
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A shield of ships fit with smartbombs inbetween the missiles and their targets is a very effective counter against missile boat fleets |
Lilianna Star
SAZI Enterprises
The Aslyum
93
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Posted - 2012.09.12 07:01:00 -
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iownuall123 wrote:A shield of ships fit with smartbombs inbetween the missiles and their targets is a very effective counter against missile boat fleets
I neglected to put that up there, thanks. |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
329
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Posted - 2012.09.12 07:06:00 -
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Lilianna Star wrote: Not only that, no tracking means no mobility DPS penalty.
Explosion velocity and Explosion radius means mobile ships and small ships take far less dps than fat slow ships.
Missiles are very good when used correctly but can be a joke when used incorrectly |
Lilianna Star
SAZI Enterprises
The Aslyum
93
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Posted - 2012.09.12 07:08:00 -
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Vaal Erit wrote:Lilianna Star wrote: Not only that, no tracking means no mobility DPS penalty. Explosion velocity and Explosion radius means mobile ships and small ships take far less dps than fat slow ships. Missiles are very good when used correctly but can be a joke when used incorrectly
I mean of the ship itself using them. Doesn't matter how fast you're going, damage stays the same. |
Ghazu
170
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Posted - 2012.09.12 07:23:00 -
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Torpedos are crappy. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1169
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Posted - 2012.09.12 07:50:00 -
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I agree, HMLs need to be nerfed.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Alice Saki
5796
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Posted - 2012.09.12 07:53:00 -
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Stealth Drake Nerf Thread? ^_^
Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused.
I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Grog Barrel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.09.12 12:39:00 -
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wasn't the last inquisition enough? |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
2932
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Posted - 2012.09.12 12:41:00 -
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Roime wrote:I agree, HMLs need to be nerfed.
You just shut your dirty little mouth! |
Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
293
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Posted - 2012.09.12 13:41:00 -
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Lilianna Star wrote:Vaal Erit wrote:Lilianna Star wrote: Not only that, no tracking means no mobility DPS penalty. Explosion velocity and Explosion radius means mobile ships and small ships take far less dps than fat slow ships. Missiles are very good when used correctly but can be a joke when used incorrectly I mean of the ship itself using them. Doesn't matter how fast you're going, damage stays the same.
And how is this shocking?
There is no turret to "track" a target, a missile is basically dropped into space where it does its own guided thing. |
ChaseTheLasers
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
Kill It With Fire
38
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Posted - 2012.09.12 13:44:00 -
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Cruise missiles need a good look at. They're not even fantastic in PvE. |
Bouh Revetoile
Barricade.
59
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Posted - 2012.09.12 13:50:00 -
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ChaseTheLasers wrote:Cruise missiles need a good look at. They're not even fantastic in PvE.
Despite the Raven was considered to be the best T1 mission BS some times ago... |
Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
140
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Posted - 2012.09.12 13:52:00 -
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Missiles are just different. Some balancing between missile types wouldn't go amiss though. HMLs are not really that op but a slight nerf may be in order (or maybe just nerf the drake/tengu). This would in itself buff the alternative HAMS as they would become the true damage choice. Light missiles are already getting a slight buff, rockets aren't bad, torps aren't bad. Really its cruise that are the poor relation |
Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
140
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Posted - 2012.09.12 13:52:00 -
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Bouh Revetoile wrote:ChaseTheLasers wrote:Cruise missiles need a good look at. They're not even fantastic in PvE. Despite the Raven was considered to be the best T1 mission BS some times ago...
You mean before the missile nerf ........
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1150
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Posted - 2012.09.12 14:38:00 -
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I completely agree!
Missiles need buffed/nerfed because when compared to turrets, they are completely-different/not-the-same and are clearly over-powered/under-powered, depending on circumstances.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1075
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:38:00 -
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Ghazu wrote:Torpedos are crappy.
This is true ^
Other than that missiles are fine... the damage doesn't hit until the missiles get there, so there are some missile drawbacks. That alone makes them a lot different than any other weapons. The cane is a fine counter to the drake... I don't see why you want to nerf it. Just buff the amarr and gallente BCs instead.
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Alice Saki
5938
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:45:00 -
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....I liked the New Manticore.... but without the AWESOME Sauce Explosions from Torps.... Its not so fun anymore :|
Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused.
I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
2987
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:55:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:....I liked the New Manticore.... but without the AWESOME Sauce Explosions from Torps.... Its not so fun anymore :|
This^^
Miss the giant radius of torpedo explosions. |
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
39
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Posted - 2012.09.12 18:47:00 -
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Nothing wrong with HML's, it's the medium sized, long range turrets that need some help.
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