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Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.06.19 20:33:00 - [1] Originally by: Jentar Cylor Wrong. ..snip.. Now, you have no method of knowing if that cloaked toon in your system is a simple trial account with minimal skills to cloak, or one properly trained up to cyno or tackle you just long enough for friends to charge in. Wrong. Cloaking Cloaking Skill at using Cloaking devices. 10% reduction in targeting delay after uncloaking per skill level. Can not be trained on Trial Accounts. Also. Cynosural Field Theory Cynosural Field Theory Skill at creating effective cynosural fields. 10% reduction in liquid ozone consumption for module activation per skill level. Can not be trained on Trial Accounts. But thanks for joining in and providing us your vast game knowledge. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.06.19 21:23:00 - [2] Originally by: t'raq mardon Yes because it would be supper expensive to make a trial account and then apply a plex to it. Oh wait, no it wouldn't. You can have a 51day "trial" account for free with the buddy program, as long as you are ok with spending your normal monthly subscription fee on a plex. No time lost, no extra money spent. What brilliant reasoning you have there. Oh wait, it would no longer be a trial account, you know, the thing he keeps talking about. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.06.20 13:34:00 - [3] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: t'raq mardon He is referring to an account that a player does not intend to continue once it becomes an actual cost, not the literal status of "trial account". Then maybe he should have said so, rather than call it a trial accountà hmm? At least t'raq is consistent, he never lets facts get in the way of a good argument. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.06.23 14:08:00 - [4] Originally by: Danika Princip Originally by: t'raq mardon Stuff..... Do you even read what you post? As I've said before, at least t'raq is consistent. He never lets facts, get in the way of a good argument. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.06.23 16:19:00 - [5] Edited by: Mag''s on 23/06/2011 16:24:58 Originally by: t'raq mardon Was anything i said inaccurate? do you not have the ability to train for a counter to anything i train for? except cloaking of course since it has no counter. The truth is that you have run out of excuses and are left to simply say that I'm lying. At least i am honest enough to change my opinion when a valid point is made. You on the other hand refuse to even have a discussion but instead throw accusation to avoid having to admit you are wrong. Most of what you say is inaccurate. I've said all I need to say, the fact that you cannot see the truth and don't understand game mechanics, is not my problem. Simply repeating myself to someone who either doesn't have the faculty to understand, or flatly refuses too, is an exercise in futility. You're not even honest with your intent. You hide behind the AFK argument, when really you want to just nerf cloaks no matter what. Start being honest, gain some knowledge about the game, then others may start listening. But until then, I'll call it as I see it, as will many others. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.06.24 13:39:00 - [6] Originally by: t'raq mardon Stuff.........and act like you are somehow better at this game than everyone else... stuff. Not everyone else, just you. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.06.27 20:21:00 - [7] Originally by: t'raq mardon Originally by: Mag's Originally by: t'raq mardon Stuff.........and act like you are somehow better at this game than everyone else... stuff. Not everyone else, just you. That's entertaining coming from someone who seems to spend more time talking about eve than they do actually playing it. Perhaps that why you have been incapable of making even a half assed argument against fixing cloaking. Oh I do love the irony in that statement. You sir, have excelled yourself. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.06.28 08:07:00 - [8] Originally by: t'raq mardon Originally by: Mag's Oh I do love the irony in that statement. You sir, have excelled yourself. dude, you've made 100 posts in the last 7 days, its taken me almost 7 weeks to make that many and this is the most active on the forums i have ever been. The irony is you trying to discuss a game you dont seem to play. You should try actually logging onto eve and then perhaps you will notice how unbalanced and uncounterable cloaks actually are. I was actually referring to the 'incapable of making even a half assed argument' statement. But I do love the fact you are keeping such close tabs on my movements, I now know how much you love me. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:36:00 - [9] Edited by: Mag''s on 28/06/2011 17:36:54 Originally by: t'raq mardon Yes, because going to evesearch and clicking on your name and then click page five takes a lot of time and effort. But the fact that you found the need too do just that and spend the time, means so much more. Originally by: t'raq mardon Lets recap your argument for not change cloaking; The problem is local... In regards to AFKing, yes. Originally by: t'raq mardon Cloaking isn't broken... Correct. Originally by: t'raq mardon Local is whats wrong with cloaking... More dishonesty, as I've never said that. Originally by: t'raq mardon Cloaking has counters but i'm not going to tell you what they are... I and many others, have told you what they are. So again, dishonest. Originally by: t'raq mardon The problem is local... I'm now used to repeating myself with you. So again in regards to AFKing, yes. Originally by: t'raq mardon Think that pretty much sums it up. Not fully, you forgot to include all the dishonest statements you've made. Also the fact that you are hiding behind the AFK argument, when really you simply want to nerf cloaks, no matter how unbalanced your approach may be. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.06.28 18:23:00 - [10] Originally by: t'raq mardon How am i hiding behind afk cloaking. Your only agenda is to nerf cloaks, the AFK argument is merely a smoke screen. I talk about the topic, AFK cloaking. I'm sorry you're upset that your agenda doesn't quite stand up to scrutiny, in that regard. Also why would I want to fix cloaking, it's balanced and working as intended. Originally by: t'raq mardon Also, i took the 45 seconds to look up your posting history to point out to the rest of the people who read this thread how much time you spend trolling the forums. The point was you either spend far too much of your day thinking about a game and need to get a life/job or both, or you spend all of your spare time posting and must not have much left over for actually playing. But you took the time to look, that's all I need to know. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.06.29 07:20:00 - [11] Originally by: t'raq mardon Cloaking does affect other players, not in a direct combat sense (like turrets), but it does affect other players. The fact that it can be used to affect other players but can in no way be affected itself is what i take issue with. Back to basics then. How exactly does it affect other players? Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.06.30 20:59:00 - [12] Just think I'll quote this, in hope of an honest reply. Originally by: Mag's Originally by: t'raq mardon Cloaking does affect other players, not in a direct combat sense (like turrets), but it does affect other players. The fact that it can be used to affect other players but can in no way be affected itself is what i take issue with. Back to basics then. How exactly does it affect other players? Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.

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