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Tom Gerard
Caldari
RPS holdings
Auctorita Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.20 13:56:00 -
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So looking into how to kill macro miners, I find the basis for the bot is injecting pythons into EVE. I am smart enough to suspect "pythons" are not really snakes, but more like Agent Smith from the matrix.
If CCP could create their own Python champion like Tron he could defend CCP and kill off the onslaught of injected pythons.
If I ever had a python which I don't I play legitimately. I would name him Monty. LOL
Any way preventing python injection seems like the easier method of fighting bots. Is there any legitimate use for injections of pythons?
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Captian Conrad
Minmatar
Empyrean Warriors
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:01:00 -
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When you have a basement full of rats? 
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Xonus Calimar
Amarr
CaeIum Incognitum
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:03:00 -
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I approve of the creation of CCP's own Tron/Agent Smith Snake program, but only if the interface they use to control it is the game SNAKE.
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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:05:00 -
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I own 2 pythons. A 16 foot Burmese named Athena, and a 13 foot albino Burmese named Vincent.
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Mr LaForge
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:07:00 -
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Call it Mongoose!
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:08:00 -
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Grats you came up with one of the most post unusable name suggestion you could have.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Mister Smithington
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:09:00 -
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The problem is they actually are real pythons, so CCP can't do anything about the bots without committing criminal acts of animal cruelty.
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Cpt Pugwash
Caldari
Rubra Libertas Militia
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:15:00 -
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Employ Tim Brooke-Taylor, Graeme Garden and Bill Oddie to counter the Bots, Goodies are much better thabn any Pythons 
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Adrian Idaho
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:25:00 -
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 Thank you, Tom, and I'm really glad you didn't stop posting.
(i wuv you)
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Tom Gerard
Caldari
RPS holdings
Auctorita Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Adrian Idaho
Thank you, Tom, and I'm really glad you didn't stop posting.
(i wuv you)
By your command.
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Katrina Cortez
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:12:00 -
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Snake Plissken \o/
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Tom Gerard
Caldari
Deadspace Depot
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Posted - 2011.07.02 13:33:00 -
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Did anyone with a computer science degree come up with a fix for. This yet?
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2011.07.02 13:38:00 -
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Need to hire Chinese hunters of farmers.
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Cyra Mangeiri
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Need to hire Chinese hunters of farmers.
This begs the question, why haven't the original farmer businesses expanded into hunting farmers? They could've easily taken down any accounts of their own that seemed too compromised, and losing only stuff for show, while selling their own covering of asses to the company they're bleeding in the first place.
Everyone would be happy, since bots would die (seemingly as it were), company wouldn't have to care and spend resources, and the farmers would double income.
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GCs Girl
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:06:00 -
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I had a 3 metre python come into my garden last year. I think it was after the chickens or the possums.
I carried it back to the reserve but not before it crapped all over my arms.
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Pok Nibin
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Cyra Mangeiri
Originally by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Need to hire Chinese hunters of farmers.
This begs the question, why haven't the original farmer businesses expanded into hunting farmers? They could've easily taken down any accounts of their own that seemed too compromised, and losing only stuff for show, while selling their own covering of asses to the company they're bleeding in the first place.
Everyone would be happy, since bots would die (seemingly as it were), company wouldn't have to care and spend resources, and the farmers would double income.
I like how you think. The U.S. will be looking for a new Secretary of the Treasury in the near future...you got my endorsement.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:13:00 -
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Tom you f---ing self gratifying necro.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Jackuu Bauwaah
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
Tom you f---ing self gratifying necro.
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Chibisuke
Gallente
Children of Avalon
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:27:00 -
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There is not much you can do against injection of python bytecode. I mean how would you prevent process memory of the python interpreter to be written?
I did some research in code injection attack against scripting languages in the past. It is extremely easy to inject code to any scripting language.
Multiple attack vectors are possible.
The only one that works with eve, is modifying the bytecode in ram. But that one is really easy to perform.
OpenProcess, ReadProcessMemory, WriteProcessMemory and there you go.
you cannot prevent your process from being opened, except if your process runs in kernel mode, or you hook the OpenProcess syscall.
Running eve in kernelmode would just cause a lot of players to remove it from the harddrive, as this is a quite invasive change to the operating system. Also it would break compatibility with linux, mac, ect.
Hooking the openprocess syscall.... requires a driver to be loaded that most likely will be recognized by virus scanners all around the world (it behaves like a root-kit).
in linux injecting is even easier.
/proc/`pgrep exefile.exe`/mem .... read and write it as you wish.
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Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
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Posted - 2011.07.02 15:19:00 -
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Easiest way to remove macro miners = Remove Ice / Asteroids
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Hagan Sirius
Gallente
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors
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Posted - 2011.07.02 15:45:00 -
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remove static belts, make belts scanable, so macroes have to scan them daily - I doubt there will be macro what cen deal with it soon, job done. And on other hand mining will become to be profitable again, not like now, when real player really wasting his time on that, unless You mining ABC ores. Its not deep in history when ABC ores atleast worth something, the price dropped like 2 times when these mining upgrades in sov space came in to this game
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Haulin Gneiss
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Posted - 2011.07.02 15:48:00 -
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Who's to say CCP doesn't own/profit from RMT directly? I mean look at the evidence in hand. This MT stuff is just a way to shift the RMT from the black market.
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