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Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.12 18:58:00 -
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When it comes right down to it, the loss of any member of EVE generally brings some type of sadness form the community. While we all might feel contempt for the Goons, Vile Rat was a Goon unlike any other. He fostered diplomacy in EVE (okay okay, I realize diplomacy in EVE is a little silly, especially with regards to the Goons), but beyond that he worked with the United States State Department to foster diplomacy between the United States and other nations. If that isn't enough, he worked on the CSM, attempting diplomacy between the players and CCP itself.
The man is probably the most diplomatic person in the history of EVE.
I think it would be appropriate in that regard to erect a memorial for Vile Rat. His in-game persona and real life persona were one-in-the-same in many respects. It is not every day that EVE loses a man who has such a weight on his shoulders, and when he is killed trying to foster friendship and diplomacy over the world, it deserves special recognition. |

Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
705
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Posted - 2012.09.12 19:45:00 -
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there should be a monument with every eve player who passes, in the description have every name of the people. |

Dark HicQuaVideeum
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
102
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Posted - 2012.09.12 23:05:00 -
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i do agree that a memorial for this person should be made just like that one in Jita, make it in VFK home of goons and there shall be peace in the galaxy |

Vulfnaadur
Veris Explorers
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Posted - 2012.09.12 23:38:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:there should be a monument with every eve player who passes, in the description have every name of the people. +1 |

MicloaD
Black Aces Against ALL Anomalies
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Posted - 2012.09.12 23:55:00 -
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I agree with the Idea to place a memorial monument to Sean in VFK +1. |

Pro Versius
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.12 23:57:00 -
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MicloaD wrote:I agree with the Idea to place a memorial monument to Sean in VFK +1.
Here.. Here..
+1 |

Chakindra
Mjolnir Industries
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Posted - 2012.09.13 03:01:00 -
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I'm all for it. +1 |

Ehrye
Intergalactic Fender benders Suddenly Spaceships.
0
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Posted - 2012.09.13 03:04:00 -
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You have my vote
+1 |

Dunkler Meister
Thunderwaffles Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.13 03:10:00 -
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+1 |

Shaera Taam
Minmatar Death Squad Broken Chains Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.13 03:18:00 -
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doesnt get much simpler than this...
+1
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess! |

NetheranE
Gods Asunder Those Bloody Red Bastards
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Posted - 2012.09.13 03:19:00 -
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An absolute +1
If we can take the time to commemorate those that succeed in our in-game tournaments, then we should absolutely be far more than capable of putting up a monument to people and their characters such as VileRat. Any character in EVE deserves to be recognized imho.
While i may never have met nor heard of VileRat up to this point, his story and history in itself justifies such recognition. While I am torn between the Goon's homebase in VFK (null sec bases do change with time) and Jita, this is a moot point in the grand scheme of things.
CCP, I for one am 100% for a permanent structure to be erected at Jita 4-4 in memory of any and all active EVE: Online players whom pass IRL. This is a community that truly fosters itself off and on each other unlike any other, and we should recognize that while some people may leave us in the real world, their memories and stories that they scripted here in EVE should never be forgotten.
Further, CCP, your very own trailers advertise that here in EVE, the universe is yours. With that, this universe IS ours and our stories all carry their own literature. Immortalize the players of this game regardless of their race or persona as their living selves pass beyond their mortal coil and you will create something unmatched in the world past, present and future.
RIP VileRat, while some of us may never have known you, we will remember you. |

Foxfire 0031
Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.09.13 03:28:00 -
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+1 |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
549
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Posted - 2012.09.13 03:35:00 -
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+1 Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |

ian papabear
The Syndicate Inc LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
16
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Posted - 2012.09.13 03:37:00 -
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i agree on the monument, but i dont agree on a monument specifically dedicating to only one person. there should be a monument dedicated to eve players who have passed on in real life. with a list of those who have passed on. the reason behind not speficially creating a monument for one person is that you dont want to create a bias, you dont want that "well why does that guy get a statue but my friend who was killed doesnt get one" etc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_FJBdQUAO4 |

Sebesto
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.13 04:10:00 -
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I personally didn't know Vile Rat. But, from what I have been reading about him he does deserve some form of monument.
On a second note, my deepest condolences go out to Vile Rat's family. |

Sephiroth CloneIIV
Vitriol Ventures Tribal Band
129
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Posted - 2012.09.13 04:22:00 -
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I don't think I would ever deserve mention in monument in the game for dieing of natural causes.
Vile rat was a former CSM, alliance leader and diplomat of the largest, and most of all, died for his country in a national tragedy.
If VFK is the consensus of his alliance, and close friends I think it be a fitting spot. |

None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.09.13 04:57:00 -
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Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:I don't think I would ever deserve mention in monument in the game for dieing of natural causes.
Vile rat was a former CSM, alliance leader and diplomat of the largest, and most of all, died for his country in a national tragedy.
If VFK is the consensus of his alliance, and close friends I think it be a fitting spot.
+1 for these reasons.
I don't normally think it is right to ask for such a thing; I would understand if CCP didn't choose to. It is kind of a can of worms, and as much as we (and they) care about our eve players, building memorials for every loss is not what CCP is in business to do. And it would sully the memories to be trying to pick and choose who deserved it.
But THIS time is clearly different. I think its a great idea for this singular individual, who gave so much to the community and made the ultimate sacrifice trying to do his part to help make the world a better place.
EVE is a sandbox; The only "end-game" content in EVE is the crap that makes you rage-quit.
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DaShmoo
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.09.13 05:04:00 -
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+1
(i thought the diplomacy skill description was good too) |

NetheranE
Gods Asunder Those Bloody Red Bastards
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Posted - 2012.09.13 05:08:00 -
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I think my idea for a general memorial was not clear enough... I didn't mean a singular monument for every character, but rather a single monument that has a perhaps a description with the characters names listed. Maybe the description could have a link to a dev run thread in which people can post the deaths of their friends and link their characters, maybe added with maybe a sentence or two. I don, but i didn't mean a singular monument to each character, i meant one monument for them all.
However, lets not lose focus.
This thread is about a singular monument in VFK/Jita for VileRat considering his RL and inEVE efforts to see a better world. |

Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2012.09.13 05:10:00 -
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I definitely believe that some form of non-destructible monument should be placed in a well-travelled system (Jita, Rens, Amarr or Dodixie) for EVE Players who have passed on.
This monument should be speak of some of their accomplishments in game.
So long as we carry on the memory of the dead, they shall remain immortal. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |

Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
111
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Posted - 2012.09.13 05:34:00 -
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No.
The intent for this is to create a single memorial commemorating the death of a man who fought not only for his beloved internet spaceships, but also attempted to foster friendship through diplomacy in real life. Sure, people die all the time. But what makes this man any different and more important than other players?
He died in a senseless attack, while trying to make the world a better place.
Maybe I'm being insensitive, but I see no reason to erect a memorial for random people who have done nothing more than play this game and then passed on. Sean Smith is a huge exception, because of the way he lived, and the way he died. |

ian papabear
The Syndicate Inc LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2012.09.13 05:52:00 -
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Anya Klibor wrote:No.
The intent for this is to create a single memorial commemorating the death of a man who fought not only for his beloved internet spaceships, but also attempted to foster friendship through diplomacy in real life. Sure, people die all the time. But what makes this man any different and more important than other players?
He died in a senseless attack, while trying to make the world a better place.
Maybe I'm being insensitive, but I see no reason to erect a memorial for random people who have done nothing more than play this game and then passed on. Sean Smith is a huge exception, because of the way he lived, and the way he died.
it isnt just to say one person is more important than another. just like Sean, an average player who died is just as important to to a family , friends, or a group just as Sean was to his.
the statue itsself can be a statue of Sean's in game character followed with a short yet memorable description of him followed by a saying something like "here lies those who have passed on " then ensue a list of names http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_FJBdQUAO4 |

Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
712
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Posted - 2012.09.13 06:36:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:there should be a monument with every eve player who passes, in the description have every name of the people.
1 monument in jita in the description the names of all the people who passed and maybe the dates? the monument never Disappears but simply gets updated when relevant. |

ian papabear
The Syndicate Inc LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
16
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Posted - 2012.09.13 06:40:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:Herping yourDerp wrote:there should be a monument with every eve player who passes, in the description have every name of the people. 1 monument in jita in the description the names of all the people who passed and maybe the dates? the monument never Disappears but simply gets updated when relevant.
^this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_FJBdQUAO4 |

Mara Skye
MMA Industries
4
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Posted - 2012.09.13 07:02:00 -
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+1 |

Abelian0808
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.09.13 07:35:00 -
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+1 For VFK |

Vauzen
Gladius Veritatis Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.09.13 07:50:00 -
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+1 as this is a sandbox we create the lore and now Vile Rat has become a legend . Please help us honor him . |

Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
57
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Posted - 2012.09.13 07:57:00 -
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If a memorial is being considered, it has to be a titan wreck model
(6:25:55 PM)-ávile_rat:-áI was elected to murder titans (6:26:04 PM)-ávile_rat:-áDeath to all titans.
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Czechlion1977
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.09.13 08:25:00 -
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+1 for VFK... also, the inscription should say "Shoot blues -> Tell Vile Rat" |

MicloaD
Black Aces Against ALL Anomalies
0
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Posted - 2012.09.13 08:35:00 -
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I like the idea of a general monument in trade hubs for those of us that have passed on but I do feel that Sean should get his own one as he was stolen away from his family and friends in a act of pure undeserved violence. He did alot for this game and as such I feel he does deserve his own monument in VFK, somewhere his friend's can keep his memory alive and he will live on through them.
Also CCP how about starting a plex for Seans family collection I for one would like to know his family received something back from the community he dedicated so much of his free time too. |
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