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Moondancer Starweaver
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:42:00 -
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So here is my situation I am currently running Level 2 missions in an incursus and do pretty well can complete all of them some have to warp in and out a few times. Well finally getting my standings up to level 3 missions i looked up what it will take and everything i read says Battlecruisers are where you want to be.
So trained BC to 5 and working on medium hybrid turrets but my problem is there are just to many slots on the BC and not enough CPU or Powergrid. I have only flown Destroyers and frigates and after you rack up your turret points and a prop your out of room for anything else.
Are my fitting skills just to low to be able to fly a BC?
I always have like 2 or 3 mid slots and 2 or 3 low slots i cant seem to fit anything into is this common? |
Moondancer Starweaver
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Posted - 2012.09.13 18:49:00 -
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Rexorol wrote:
Training to battlecruisers 5 is probably overkill at first, usually 2-3 is sufficient for starting out on level 3's. Some people will just skip battlecruisers entirely and jump straight to battleships since they are much easier to equip and will be useful on level 4's right away too.
BC's have tons of CPU and Grid available. You shouldn't be running short unless you are mixing your tanking slots (i.e., both a shield and armor repair mod), or you have neglected your core skills.
Post what ships you were interested in flying and maybe we can point you towards the typical PVE fittings people use.
So BC is at 5 because when i first started before inferno everyone said i should get it to 5 and destroyers to 5 as fast as possible so i did. As for neglecting core skills i am sure i have i have around 4.5million SP and 3.5million is in ships and since then been working on gunnery skills because there were some level 2's i was having problems with in my incursus.
Since i can't use any tech2 modules i sort of bypass any fit that has them as i figure they are essential for whole thing to work. From my experience you pull one module out and try and replace it is a bit like jenga every time you do you risk the whole fit crashing down on you.
As for The ships i want to fly I am interested in Gallente ships as i am gallente and have mostly gallente ships trained. Though i do have all frigs to 4 or 5, and all Cruisers to 3 as i trained so that destroyers and BC's would propagate which never actually happened. With my funds i have been looking at a Brutix. Thanks for all the help and responses so far. |
Moondancer Starweaver
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:47:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Try replacing T2 stuff with meta 4 (or even meta 2-3). It is often very expensive to do so, but you can usually make the same fit work. Your first priority should be in fitting T2 defenses. T2 weapons can wait. Even a poorly fit BC can manage level 3 missions. Get EFT, import your character(s) via a Customizable API Key (CAK) (name it "Full Access" and don't share this API key with anybody, and don't use it with any website!), and play around with fitting your own ships. Get EVEmon for skill planning while you are at it, as they complement each other nicely (you can use the "Full Access" API key with it too).
Ya i just found out yesterday reading a post about the meta levels i assumed that beyond the base level there was some draw back to the other versions. I had thought Limited Microwarps weren't as fast as the normal ones and the experimental ones were faster but used more energy etc.
Someone said i should get Pyfa for fitting ships i use evemon and its pretty amazing but still worried about remapping everyone i have talked to says wait cause you could totally screw yourself for a year. Brutix still seems impossible to fill all the slots thinking about working on weapon upgrades so i can get advanced weapon upgrades.
Heck the only reason i am running missions is to do jump clones so i dont lose my implants. |
Moondancer Starweaver
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Posted - 2012.09.14 13:03:00 -
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DeBingJos wrote:
Telling a new player to train BC and destroyer to V is very bad advice. You spend 45+ days training 2 skills for just a very small advantage. Don't get me wrong, when you are experienced you will want them to V anyway but as you are a new player you can do just fine with level 3 or 4.
In those 45+ days you trained 2 skills you could have trained A LOT of support skills to level 3 or 4.
To all the other new players: Don't train anything to lv5 in your first 3 months untill you are really sure you need it.
So What is done is done its already trained and i cant go back. So From what i have gathered here is i shouldn't be flying a BC in missions for probably another 3 months or something.
I was really hoping the fitting principals were just different from a frigate to a BC and i was missing something. Appreciate all the information back to training for advanced weapon upgrades. |
Moondancer Starweaver
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Posted - 2012.09.14 13:29:00 -
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DeBingJos wrote:
I'm not saying you shouldn't fly a battlecruiser in your first three months. I'm just saying that a new player can fly the thing with the skill at 3 or 4 just fine.
Ok sure but its to late now to recoup those BC 5 skill points from my understanding i cant drop it 4 and then get all those points back and reapply them to more integral stuff. Unless i completely misunderstand the skill system and that is possible. |
Moondancer Starweaver
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Posted - 2012.09.14 17:47:00 -
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All the information has been super helpful and pretty much solidify the fact that i am not ready. So i have found in Eve there are many ways to do things.
So let me post my noob logic and see if it there is another way to skin it. I have implants(expensive to lose for me) So i asked around and learned about Jump Clones. Jump Clones require you to have a standing of 8.0 with the corp to be able to install them in a station. I ran level 2 missions to increase my standing enough to get level 3 missions, with the assumption that level 3 missions give more standing then level 2. Couldn't do level 3 missions in my incursus and then came here to find out i am not able to do level 3 missions for some time.
Is there a faster or better way to get to a point where i dont lose my implants? |
Moondancer Starweaver
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Posted - 2012.09.14 18:09:00 -
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Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Of course, get someone in your corp who has standing and Fleet up, you will split the rewards. Take a few days, and get a few core skills up, it will not take long. As I pointed out, you really do not need to have every slot filled to do 3's. So, drop down your fitting and go with less.
Edit note, if you are just looking for standing, then you can also get a cheap hauler and do distribution missions.
I dont understand how fleeting up will increase my standing you mean as long as i am in a fleet with someone i get their standing?
Currently the only person in my corp so its kinda moot been looking around but most people dont want new pilots. Even rejected from RvB. I assume its to my low skills and the fear that i am some sort of insidious spy sent to destroy the corps i have applied to. |
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