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Sur Jamkar Z3R0 RETURN MINING INC. Rura-Penthe	Posted - 2011.06.24 12:43:00 - [1] Have you people not watched Braveheart!?!? Quote: WALLACE I am William Wallace. And my enemies do not go away. I saw our good nobles hanged. My wife... I am William Wallace. And I see a whole army of my countrymen, here in defiance of tyranny. You have come to fight as free men. And free men you are! What will you do with freedom? Will you fight? VETERAN Two thousand, against ten? We will run -- and live! WALLACE Yes. Fight and you may die. Run and you will live, at least awhile. And dying in your bed many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that, for one chance to come back here as young men, and tell our enemies that they make take our lives, but they will never take our freedom? Speak and act while you have the chance to affect change. Not when it's too late. This is no longer whining - but fighting for the future of Eve. ___________ Sur Jamkar Exclusive Fan Podcast for Eve Online and Dust514 players. Visit http://podlogs.com/Overwatch514 to listen to Overwatch-514.
Anslo Disciples of Night Dominion of Darkness	Posted - 2011.06.24 12:45:00 - [2] Fighting for EVE by trying to make the company who manages it, develops it, and gives us a medium to play it go under? By threatening employees with RL threats in multiple threads? By OPENLY hoping the company dies, leading people to other games? This isn't acting, this is a mindless mob and those acting with it should be ashamed. I am fighting for EVE, I'm fighting against that lot like them to ensure the game I love doesn't die. If they don't like where it's going, they can always leave quietly, but the threats and openly violent hostilities are too much. I am fighting for EVE. Are you?
John Turbefield 4CEO	Posted - 2011.06.24 12:46:00 - [3] FREEDOM!
Sur Jamkar Z3R0 RETURN MINING INC. Rura-Penthe	Posted - 2011.06.24 12:58:00 - [4] Originally by: Anslo Fighting for EVE by trying to make the company who manages it, develops it, and gives us a medium to play it go under? By threatening employees with RL threats in multiple threads? By OPENLY hoping the company dies, leading people to other games? This isn't acting, this is a mindless mob and those acting with it should be ashamed. I am fighting for EVE, I'm fighting against that lot like them to ensure the game I love doesn't die. If they don't like where it's going, they can always leave quietly, but the threats and openly violent hostilities are too much. I am fighting for EVE. Are you? This is Eve. CCP needs to grow a thicker skin when dealing with Pirates and criminals. Those not in that mode have created constructive feedback and have united with new players, bitter vets, and everyone else under the sun to make CCP understand that we want a game where the gameplay matters - not the other garbage. You should understand that. I love walking in stations. I can't wait for it to be fleshed out. But CCP needs to realize that ignoring player feedback and implementing unwanted gameplay mechanics and changes are not okay. Especially if we're going to be required to pay to stay competitive. This is not the Eve I have enjoyed playing. ___________ Sur Jamkar Exclusive Fan Podcast for Eve Online and Dust514 players. Visit http://podlogs.com/Overwatch514 to listen to Overwatch-514.
Jint Hikaru OffWorld Exploration Inc	Posted - 2011.06.24 13:01:00 - [5] Originally by: Anslo I am fighting for EVE. Are you? Hey Anslo, what you dont seem to grasp is that all the people 'whining' are doing it to fight for what they believe Eve should be. Anyway, I took a look at what you are doing to fight for Eve.... Originally by: Anslo Please just sticky and lock this thread so people know a dev blog is coming and they'll just shut up. Originally by: Anslo QFT. You people need to grow up or go out for a while to calm down. Originally by: Anslo Then leave. The less whiny, threatening, ***ing neckbeard, old player elitists around, the better EVE gets. Maybe nul alliances will quit in "protest" so some of us can stake a claim finally :) Wow, thats it... three posts, mostly just insulting people. ------------------------ Jint Hikaru** - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------
Alexis Sachs	Posted - 2011.06.24 13:04:00 - [6] Originally by: Sur Jamkar Have you people not watched Braveheart!?!? Funny you should mention that. It was on from 5:05 to 8:05 this AM (EDT) on one of the movie channels. I in fact watched it while refreshing the page here.
Anslo Disciples of Night Dominion of Darkness	Posted - 2011.06.24 13:05:00 - [7] Originally by: Sur Jamkar Originally by: Anslo Fighting for EVE by trying to make the company who manages it, develops it, and gives us a medium to play it go under? By threatening employees with RL threats in multiple threads? By OPENLY hoping the company dies, leading people to other games? This isn't acting, this is a mindless mob and those acting with it should be ashamed. I am fighting for EVE, I'm fighting against that lot like them to ensure the game I love doesn't die. If they don't like where it's going, they can always leave quietly, but the threats and openly violent hostilities are too much. I am fighting for EVE. Are you? This is Eve. CCP needs to grow a thicker skin when dealing with Pirates and criminals. Those not in that mode have created constructive feedback and have united with new players, bitter vets, and everyone else under the sun to make CCP understand that we want a game where the gameplay matters - not the other garbage. You should understand that. I love walking in stations. I can't wait for it to be fleshed out. But CCP needs to realize that ignoring player feedback and implementing unwanted gameplay mechanics and changes are not okay. Especially if we're going to be required to pay to stay competitive. This is not the Eve I have enjoyed playing. And I agree. Feedback is important and people should have a voice. I'm not speaking against that in any way. I'm speaking against the immature, violent, and down right despicable manner the community has done it, specifically with MULTIPLE RL threats to CCP, its offices, and its employees. That is where the line should be drawn. That and when CCP actually TRIED to talk to people, they discuss calmly, maturely, and in a constructive way to deliver what they want, not demanding blood sacrifice and the firing of employees. It's disgusting and makes our community look horrible. If you really love EVE, voice your opinion, but defend it against those who would do it in harm in the ways mentioned above. Those are the people (along with non-vanity MT supporters within CCP) who are threatening our game. The company isn't the sole enemy (nor is completely the enemy) in this situation. Rage won't get anything done, and threats certainly won't. I'll say this. If anyone CCP employees get hurt by people in this community, none of you deserve EVE or to have your voices heard. You deserve a jail sentence, a padded room, and a ban from the internet in its entirety.
Barry Buttplug	Posted - 2011.06.24 13:07:00 - [8] OH NOES!! NOT EVE ONLINE... TAKE THE KIDS.. TAKE THE WIFE>. HELL.. TAKE MY LIFE... BUT FAW TEH LOVE OF GOD LEAVE EVE ALONE!!!... I DONT CARE THAT MY WATER IS FLURODATED, I DONT CARE I AM A SUCKER FOR ANYTHING AIMED AT ME BY HEARTLESS UMBRELLA ORGANISATIONAL ADVERTIZING. I DONT CARE MY KIDS LISTEN TO SATANISTS... I DONT CARE MY KIDS ARE BEING MINDWASHED BY JI JOE, HAPPY MEALS AND BOOGER EATEN,,, JUST DONT HURT EVE WAHWAHWAH!!
Xideinis The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.24 14:33:00 - [9] I'm with anslo on this one. I'm tired of all the whining. And don't kid yourself. It is whining. It's stupid, childish, and it's not getting anyone anything. And RL threats are never okay. That's the stuff of mental instability. If you dont like this game, leave. Find something else to obsess over
Korinne	Posted - 2011.06.24 14:36:00 - [10] Disregarding all those with so little to do that they have time to plot rl threats; the discussion of concerns, wants, and hopes for Eve does not whining constitute. There are a number of well worded and thought out complaints about what CCP is doing, and I do not feel that those posters should be considered 'whiners'.
Mr Epeen	Posted - 2011.06.24 14:42:00 - [11] Originally by: Sur Jamkar Have you people not watched Braveheart!?!? Speak and act while you have the chance to affect change. Not when it's too late. This is no longer whining - but fighting for the future of Eve. It's already too late, idiot. Incarna is here. It's not going away because you are a whiny, butthurt, moron who is only now jumping on the failwagon to try and be one of the cool kids. Get over yourself, ffs. Mr Epeen
Bane Necran Furtim Vigilans	Posted - 2011.06.24 14:45:00 - [12] If only people cared so much about the real world around them.
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.24 18:33:00 - [13] Braveheart was the movie with the most stupid quote in the history of mankind: They can take our lives, but not our freedom? Something of that **, that makes me facepalm whenever the movie is mentioned. Quote:** Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
Syphon Lodian Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.24 18:34:00 - [14] You people are truly insane. ------------------------------------------------- Go pod yourself.
Havegun Willtravel	Posted - 2011.06.24 18:41:00 - [15] Waiter there is a fly in my soup. Oh thank you for mentioning that sir, I'll add it to your bill. If you have been paying attention or are half awake you can not reasonably dismiss the multitude of well versed and fact based arguments being put forth. Yes there may be a few wines and some trolls, however they are drowned out by the sheer volume of intelligent and well argued posts being made. This is one, there are many more like it - http://eve.beyondreality.se/NeXCQResponse.html .

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